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2026-06-15 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran deal ends Trump's war that revealed limit of US dominance
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Posted by mossomo 2026-06-15 12:40|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1794 views ]  Top
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1 Outside of Iran calling it a win, all the Left Wing organizations are repeating headlines close to this BBC article.

To me, it shows all the wrong people are celebrating this memorandum of understanding to have future talks about peace talks as long as the US meets its obligations stated in the MoU.

This "agreement" will surely break down. It is inevitable.
Posted by mossomo 2026-06-15 12:45||   2026-06-15 12:45|| Front Page Top

2 ^Imagine that people in Taiwan are thinking right now.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2026-06-15 12:49||   2026-06-15 12:49|| Front Page Top

3 Something just feels 'off' about this agreement & situation. The IRGC is acting like they have won and are going to get a number of concessions from the US. Only a handful of people have seen this agreement, so the reporting from the MSM is just speculation.

Is this all some plan to get the IRGC to reject the agreement and put them in a position to be wiped out?
Posted by Chantry 2026-06-15 17:41||   2026-06-15 17:41|| Front Page Top

4 IRGC will reject and claim "victory" over ANY agreement. Our MSM, Dems and prolific Curmudgeons from Israel will claim defeat without evidence
Posted by Frank G 2026-06-15 18:03||   2026-06-15 18:03|| Front Page Top

5 Is this all some plan to get the IRGC to reject the agreement and put them in a position to be wiped out?

An interesting speculation. It is not unpossible that there are groups within Iran more concerned with surviving and holding on to power than with having a final apocalyptic battle with the infidels. They likely lack the influence or strength to override the IRGC and would not mind if someone took the IRGC down a notch or two.
Posted by SteveS 2026-06-15 18:25||   2026-06-15 18:25|| Front Page Top

6 It's not any single thing and nothing I can really point to with any certainly, just that that we're hearing isn't adding up.

I'm having trouble believing that the Kurds chose to keep the weapons & ammo intended for the Iranian people as reported a month or so ago. I get that they may have differing priorities than the US, but angering an American President, especially Trump, isn't exactly the wisest choice.

Trump needs this to be viewed as a win by the average voter for it to help in the mid terms and this doesn't look like a win right now.

Posted by Elminenter Borgia6072 2026-06-15 19:39||   2026-06-15 19:39|| Front Page Top

7 Trump needs an exit plan. If he can get anything down on paper he can walk away claiming victory. The US doesn't have to comply with the terms of the MOU (and neither does Iran) because it isn't a treaty. And Israel isn't signing it - so when the attack Lebanon after Juneteenth it can be simply the Iran - Israel war (US exit stage left). Politics is ugly up close - but war is worse.
Posted by Dopey Photch2701 2026-06-15 20:07||   2026-06-15 20:07|| Front Page Top

8 As for the BBC article... I'm so old I remember when the Beeb was a brand name in news. Or so we thought. I cannot tell if the article is a sign that their grasp of the situation lacks opposable thumbs or they are simply too deep in Trump Derangement Syndrome to understand what is going on. To be fair, it is complicated with a lot of moving parts.

The memorandum of understanding clears the way for the nuclear negotiators to reconvene and for ships to transit the strait. That is exactly where they were 24 hours before the US and Israel went to war.

Yep, exactly the same as it was. Except for two teensy differences:
1) Iran is no longer actively enriching uranium and does not have access to its stockpiles of already processed material.
2) The Iranian plan to build a nuke is on hold.

What they are calling "Trump's war" was not a war. It was a down payment, money in escrow if you will, to demonstrate that we are serious about the no nukes thing. We are not making a deal where two parties exchange goods and services. We are after compliance with our national policy that Iran will not have nuclear weapons.
Posted by SteveS 2026-06-15 21:56||   2026-06-15 21:56|| Front Page Top

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