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2026-06-15 Home Front: Politix
Thomas Massie Slams Israel For 1967 Strike On USS Liberty That Claimed 34 Lives
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Posted by DooDahMan 2026-06-15 11:24|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1820 views ]  Top

1 In 1973 I worked with a crazy guy who claimed one night, while higher then a kite and running the 5th node of ARPA-NET that he was over the Air NSA contact to all the major parties of this at the same time from NSA-Morocco then he disappeared the next morning.. That said none of his time lines matched the official event timelines so I wrote it off. I still write it off. His story was interesting but facts didn't match.
Posted by 3dc 2026-06-15 13:10||   2026-06-15 13:10|| Front Page Top

2 but the facts
as we know them
don't match
Posted by Skidmark 2026-06-15 13:47||   2026-06-15 13:47|| Front Page Top

3 It would be interesting to hear his version of events.

Then again, have you heard of a book called _The Price of Vigilance_?
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2026-06-15 13:59||   2026-06-15 13:59|| Front Page Top

4 I was told (in IDF sergeants' course) that IDF (and our dep. foreign) asked Americans 5 or 6 times if that's their ship? They said no.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2026-06-15 14:05||   2026-06-15 14:05|| Front Page Top

5 Massie wasn't aboard the Liberty, nor has he been '
aboard' for the president or the American people while a politician in WWashington.
Posted by Besoeker 2026-06-15 14:13||   2026-06-15 14:13|| Front Page Top

6 _The Price of Vigilance_, I'm pretty sure, isn't about the Liberty per se, although it might be covered. It's about planes used for the same purpose.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2026-06-15 14:22||   2026-06-15 14:22|| Front Page Top

7 Just another Jew hater stirring up more hate.
Posted by 49 Pan 2026-06-15 15:35||   2026-06-15 15:35|| Front Page Top

8 I remember way back then as this unfolded that a major reason why the IDF attacked the unknown ship (It wasn't called the USS Liberty then in the breaking news, just "an unknown warship") was because the ship was supposedly relaying information to Egypt on what the IDF was doing.

The POTUS at the time was Lyndon B. Johnson, which makes sense as he's a democrat and was playing both sides against each others.
Posted by Seeking Cure For Ignorance 2026-06-15 16:02||   2026-06-15 16:02|| Front Page Top

9 The Liberty and the Pueblo were both unarmed surveillance craft. Someone at grades way above their ability thought that would keep them safe. After both events, the Navy moved surveillance to destroyers/frigates.
Posted by Procopius2k 2026-06-15 17:44||   2026-06-15 17:44|| Front Page Top

10 Re: LBJ. That might explain his unwillingness to discuss the matter further if I recall correctly. The Liberty might have been set up. In any case, just another weird story where American sailors died.
Posted by DooDahMan 2026-06-15 18:42||   2026-06-15 18:42|| Front Page Top

11 I would be able to relate his story.. But like I said.. his timelines didn't match so his story would just be twisted by Jew Haters as further ammo.

He claimed he was talking to Prez Johnson, Golda Meir and the Israeli pilots over the same open air unencrypted NSA Morocco radio at the same time.. Not a secure trusted link for any of the parties. Then tie that in with timelines not matching.... I am sorry. It didn't compute. That said he had a unique way of making money. His NSA buddies would spot interesting cars in junkyards and via ARPA-NET (remember it was long before DARPA-NET and the later Internet) send him the locations and space photos. The weekend he disappeared he was restoring a Gull Wing Mercedes that they had found him several hundred miles away. He would fix up those cars just enough to quickly sell to a restoration restorer. He said the reason his buddies did it was because of how he was fcked over by the Liberty Ship issue. He might have just been doing it that way to make quick money for himself and his NSA buddies.... That's another reason I wrote off his story.
Posted by 3dc 2026-06-15 18:46||   2026-06-15 18:46|| Front Page Top

12 What he didn't know was I knew an ex-Merc that was involved in an attempt to rob a Saudi junkyard for Rolls-Royces and Bentleys and fix up in Egypt to resell in Africa. Saudi had a deal with Rolls not to allow resale of scratched or wrecked Rolls. They ran into the Saudi Army and had to bribe their way out of Saudi. So.. to me expensive cars in junkyards were a normal questionable situation.

To top it off.. I had a millionaire friend who found a very expensive Italian race car in junkyard in Kansas. It was badly burned and he knew the race car company would restore it for free if delivered to their doorstep. So he told the junkyard owner "How much for that burned out Fiat? I want it for spare parts." The junkyard guy didn't know it was a Fiat and said $50, He gave him $200 if he would wait for a railcar to pick it up... heh heh .. car was then worth $1.5 million fixed up...
Posted by 3dc 2026-06-15 19:07||   2026-06-15 19:07|| Front Page Top

13 was a not Fiat
Posted by 3dc 2026-06-15 19:09||   2026-06-15 19:09|| Front Page Top

14 In the world a Rolls is not a Rolls if it is fixed by anybody not Rolls!
Seriously!!!
No spare parts, no service no anything if even a scratch is buffed out!
Posted by 3dc 2026-06-15 19:15||   2026-06-15 19:15|| Front Page Top

15  a Rolls is not a Rolls if it is fixed by anybody not Rolls!

Who do they think they are, John Deere?
Posted by SteveS 2026-06-15 19:20||   2026-06-15 19:20|| Front Page Top

16 his actual core story was that there was a deal between Prez Johnson and Israel that they would not take the whole Sinai in the 67 War. They Liberty ship was monitoring the deal when it went south..
Posted by 3dc 2026-06-15 19:27||   2026-06-15 19:27|| Front Page Top

17 Rolls would look down on John Deere as low rent pikers late to the game.
Posted by 3dc 2026-06-15 19:29||   2026-06-15 19:29|| Front Page Top

18 *ahem*
Posted by Frank G 2026-06-15 19:33||   2026-06-15 19:33|| Front Page Top

19 I first ran into the Rolls bit when I saw a cheap Rolls hearse while looking for a love mobile in high school. Rolls explained the rules to me. Even an Rolls approved oil changes was then about $2000 and me seeing a $500 Rolls meant it was not a Rolls and I could get sued for even having it ...

Posted by 3dc 2026-06-15 19:36||   2026-06-15 19:36|| Front Page Top

20 Have any of you seen the interviews with the surviving Navy sailors? You would find is shocking.

Israel knew who it was.
Posted by Woodrow 2026-06-15 20:58||   2026-06-15 20:58|| Front Page Top

23:51 3dc
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23:36 Chris
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23:21 Chris
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23:00 Seeking Cure For Ignorance
21:56 SteveS
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