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2025-12-21 The Grand Turk
Turkey said hoping to return Russian air defense systems to clear way for F-35 sale
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Posted by trailing wife 2025-12-21 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1783 views ]  Top
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1 Given Erdogan's backstabbing, lies, and embracing of Hamas, they can f*&k right off. Given F-35s, I could see them turn around and bring S-400 systems back online immediately
Posted by Frank G 2025-12-21 04:55||   2025-12-21 04:55|| Front Page Top

2 Erdojuan loves playing off each side.

Meanwhile, despite the fact that NATO should have gone away 30 years ago, why is Türkiye still in NATO? Maybe they'll just leave.
Posted by DooDahMan 2025-12-21 05:01||   2025-12-21 05:01|| Front Page Top

3 ^At which point an S-400 shoots down their own F-35?
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-12-21 05:02||   2025-12-21 05:02|| Front Page Top

4 #3 for #1.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-12-21 05:02||   2025-12-21 05:02|| Front Page Top

5 IMHO that’s the definition of a bad trade. Who knows how long the aircraft will take to arrive and be operational - having surrendered a very solid defensive system for the duration. And of course Russia could immediately put those units to work. If the Turks were foolish enough to send them to Ukraine instead of returning them there would be serious consequences. On the gripping hand India would pay top dollar for the equipment with Russian acquiescence
Posted by Gloluns Turkeyneck4904 2025-12-21 06:31||   2025-12-21 06:31|| Front Page Top

6 On the gripping hand 😁
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-12-21 06:33||   2025-12-21 06:33|| Front Page Top

7 having surrendered a very solid defensive system for the duration.

The IAF destroyed Iran’s S-400s before they and the US Air Force bombed nuclear sites and such to bits, so it wouldn’t provide Turkey with protection against Israel. Is there any other threat against Turkey in the region that has air assets? ISIS jihadis embedded among the refugees don’t count…
Posted by trailing wife 2025-12-21 13:44||   2025-12-21 13:44|| Front Page Top

8 Is there any other threat against Turkey in the region that has air assets?

In a realistic world, US Air assets, once the NATO alliance is Turkey-free
Posted by Frank G 2025-12-21 16:08||   2025-12-21 16:08|| Front Page Top

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