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2013-06-25 Home Front: WoT

Snowden not on flight to Cuba, whereabouts unclear

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Posted by Fred 2013-06-25 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11126 views ] Top

#1 "Keep Snowden in Russia for a more thorough debriefing" > ... ...

As perhaps due to ...

* REUTERS > US DOESN'T KNOW HOW MUCH SECRET MATERIAL SNOWDEN TOOK.

Inquiring Russians wanna know.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-06-25 00:21|| 2013-06-25 00:21|| Front Page Top

#2 Did he arrive in Miscow?

Or is he in a (Putin satellite) third country?

I'd bet he's far outside Moscow now, either in an FSB safe house outside the Outer Ring or else outside Russia altogether. Belarus probably.

Posted by Lex 2013-06-25 00:49|| 2013-06-25 00:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Caviar on the Buffet and he gets to meet Olga.

Posted by Threater Flusoper9823 2013-06-25 07:12|| 2013-06-25 07:12|| Front Page Top

#4 Investors Business Daily: The regime's Snowden embarrassment.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-06-25 07:25|| 2013-06-25 07:25|| Front Page Top

#5 A lot of misdirection, deep and widespread. Given normal Russian paranoia, they'll handle him with double gloves if at all.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-06-25 07:58|| 2013-06-25 07:58|| Front Page Top

#6 Anymore on all the reporters that were supposed to be on the plane to Fidelville?

I hope there were lots of them, and that they enjoy their stay.

Posted by AlanC 2013-06-25 09:16|| 2013-06-25 09:16|| Front Page Top

#7 Belarus, safe house, Olga AND her twin sister, and plenty of vodka...

Posted by Steve White 2013-06-25 09:55|| 2013-06-25 09:55|| Front Page Top

#8 Besoeker, the people who should be embarrassed now are the fools and naifs who rallied to Snowden's side and upheld him as a brave truth teller striking back at "the regime."

To those people: You were played.

You wanted to vent your ill -informed spite over a well-crafted, bipartisan, long-standing program that tightly restricts our surveillance institutions and balances security and freedom. Instead, you have supported a foolish, hopeless little pawn who is now undermining our security and giving secrets to our enemies.

Those enemies will now exploit and discard the little twerp, and the net effect of his breach will be that we will have even MORE, and much more secret, surveillance in order to repair the breach.

Nice job, fools.

Posted by Lex 2013-06-25 10:40|| 2013-06-25 10:40|| Front Page Top

#9 You wanted to vent your ill -informed spite over a well-crafted, bipartisan, long-standing program that tightly restricts our surveillance institutions and balances security and freedom.

You're spending entirely too much time on NIPRnet Lexter. Please get back to work. G-Group is shorthanded due to summertime leaves, you know the drill.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-06-25 11:14|| 2013-06-25 11:14|| Front Page Top

#10 Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?

Posted by Muggsey Mussolini 2013-06-25 12:21|| 2013-06-25 12:21|| Front Page Top

#11 He's ensconced in the Aeroflot First Class lounge at Domodedovo.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2013-06-25 12:48|| 2013-06-25 12:48|| Front Page Top

#12 He's ensconced in the Aeroflot First Class lounge at Domodedovo. Posted by: Nimble Spemble

I'd be a bit reluctant to read too much into this one. Aeroflot is a Delta Sky club partner.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-06-25 13:08|| 2013-06-25 13:08|| Front Page Top

#13 a well-crafted, bipartisan, long-standing program that tightly restricts our surveillance institutions and balances security and freedom

That phrase just reeks of "politician on a Sunday morning talk show".

Posted by Pappy 2013-06-25 15:19|| 2013-06-25 15:19|| Front Page Top

#14 It's All Our Fault he decided to get the job six months ago with the intent of committing espionage, and It's All Our Fault he ran away to Hong Kong with multiple laptops before we ever knew he existed.

You apparently feel a deeply pathological need to play the Blame Game and spew the spam early and often, and try to pretend there's a connection between everyone who distrusts Obama and Snowden.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-06-25 15:49|| 2013-06-25 15:49|| Front Page Top

#15 Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?
I like a man with good taste, sadly you share mine.

:)

Snowdens done for, 1st mission and whammo! Who? The bombardier, the bombardier. No the bombardiers okay. Snowdens dead tho. Who's the bombadier? No, who's the waist gunner, he works for Milo. No, I'm the bombardier.

Posted by Shipman 2013-06-25 15:51|| 2013-06-25 15:51|| Front Page Top

#16 Of course, the phrase also happens to be true, Pappy, but hey, whatever. Snowden rocks! Stick it to the Man!

Just out of curiosity, I wonder what will his defenders say when they learn that the new surveillance programs are much more intrusive and intrusive -as they inevitably will be after all the damage done by this fool and his gullible supporters...

Posted by Lex 2013-06-25 15:52|| 2013-06-25 15:52|| Front Page Top

#17 Pardon my tour-in-D.C cynicism, but 'bipartisan' is generally used for two purposes: when one wants to solicit cooperation for an unpalatable task, or to share blame. It's a nice, carefully crafted statement. Very pat, full of sound and fury. That's why I said "Sunday morning talk show".

As far as your "but hey, whatever...Snowden rocks! Stick it to the Man!" remark: please do not make assumptions on what my stance is.

I'll return the courtesy and not assume that yours is one of rank political opportunism.

Posted by Pappy 2013-06-25 16:35|| 2013-06-25 16:35|| Front Page Top

#18

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2013-06-25 17:16|| 2013-06-25 17:16|| Front Page Top

#19 Why is it that when you talk to a leftist, you feel like you have just talked with them all.

Posted by JohnQC 2013-06-25 17:52|| 2013-06-25 17:52|| Front Page Top

#20 Update: per GazPutin, looks like Snowboy is in Sheremetyevo after all. As I said before, after they drain his laptops and what gray matter the lad has, he will be traded back to the US.

For what, or whom? Well, I forgot that we nailed death merchant extraordinaire Viktor Bout a few years back, and the Sov- er, Russians were livid.

Prediction refinement: Snowden for Bout, and a favor to be named later.

Posted by Lex 2013-06-25 19:33|| 2013-06-25 19:33|| Front Page Top

#21 STEVE WOZNIAK (Apple Cofounder): "The government is just upset because he" (Edward Snowden) "embarrassed them. What concerns me is what the government is doing in the name of fighting terrorism. Were losing freedoms in the process, and what I find more and more is that this is not for freedom, not for democracy. Its just a joke. We think were the most free and fair country in the world. Its like the NSA is giving themselves permission to do what they want. At first we thought technology would give us less restriction, but with digital technology, nothing is private anymore not even our email."

Posted by Hupuque Bucket2093 2013-06-25 21:56|| 2013-06-25 21:56|| Front Page Top

#22 Now Russia's most famous son-of-a-lawyer, Zhirinovsky, is calling for Snowden to be swapped for Viktor Bout.

Glenn Greenwald must be sweatin' now. Conspiracy to aid and abet espionage. Likely treasonous.

Posted by Lex 2013-06-25 22:06|| 2013-06-25 22:06|| Front Page Top

#23 Hey Hup - unlike Woz, who was so naive as to be screwed out of billions by his own best friend and business partner and has spent the last three-plus decades farting around, serious Silicon Valley pros have been working hand in glove with data DoD, the CIA, Wall Street, Walmart-GM-GE etc for going on a half century to build out massive data centers with our most advanced technologies. The biggest and most powerful enterprise software company in the planet was built on the back of (and named after) a CIA project.

Got that? The Man and his nefarious, voracious desire for our data built Silicon Valley. That data is not public. Try telling Walmart and Goldman and DoD that "information should be free."

Our entire information technology sector is joined at the hip to the national security state, Wall Street and the Fortune 50. No, Virginia, there is no Santa Claus, and No, information most definitely does not deserve to be "free" and available to every idiot libertarian child-man who thinks otherwise.

Posted by Lex 2013-06-25 22:20|| 2013-06-25 22:20|| Front Page Top

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