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2025-08-03 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Hamas says it will not lay down arms until Israeli occupation ends
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.

Peace is just such a pain in the ass, what with what Allen says and all...

They assume the world will force Israel to submit. In the meantime, Israel continues plowing and harrowing — Hamas may find itself, like Satan, ruling over Hell in tents after the buildings above ground crumbled because the tunnels below ground have all been destroyed.
[Regnum] Representatives of the Hamas movement stated on August 2 that their fighters will not disarm as long as the Israeli occupation continues and a Palestinian state with its capital in Jerusalem is not created.

“This right is recognized by international conventions and norms, and it cannot be abandoned until our national rights are restored, first and foremost the right to establish a fully sovereign, independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital,” the movement said in an official statement.

The corresponding statement was made after a number of media outlets, citing US Presidential Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, reported that Hamas was ready to lay down its arms.

On July 31, the Palestinian movement announced its readiness to resume ceasefire talks with Israel as soon as the humanitarian crisis and famine in the Gaza Strip are ended. Hamas stressed that continuing negotiations in conditions of famine looks pointless and useless.

A day earlier, on July 30, 17 states, including members of the Arab League (including Qatar, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan), as well as the European Union, expressed support for a document that calls on Hamas to relinquish power in the Gaza Strip.

The statement, agreed upon at the UN conference to resume the two-state solution for Israel and Palestine, calls for an end to Hamas rule in Gaza and the transfer of weapons to the Palestinian Authority, which governs the West Bank.

Posted by badanov 2025-08-03 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| ||Comments [56 views ]  Top
 File under: Hamas 

#1 I am more of a geographer than a lawyer, but it seems to me that if Israel annexes Gaza and the West Bank, then there is no "occupation". Israel provides police and state security, the Paleos that want to live peacefully in the modern world* can do so, and the rest can leave, stay and be jugged, or die. Super easy, barely an inconvenience.

* Let us for a moment assume an existence proof. We can argue about an admittedly small number later.
Posted by SteveS 2025-08-03 09:40||   2025-08-03 09:40|| Front Page || Comments   Top

#2 pretty heavy majority of Israelis would oppose an annexation of all of Gaza

annexation of some of what is now the border is a separate question
Posted by Lord Garth 2025-08-03 11:27||   2025-08-03 11:27|| Front Page || Comments   Top

#3 ^Not with Arabs still living there. But, we're going to have a war with Egypt, sooner or later, anyways.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-08-03 12:39||   2025-08-03 12:39|| Front Page || Comments   Top

#4 How much Camp David bribe money is the US giving Egypt every year? Last I recall, it was something like $2 billion.
Posted by DooDahMan 2025-08-03 13:00||   2025-08-03 13:00|| Front Page || Comments   Top

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