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2025-07-12 India-Pakistan

Air India crash investigation reveals pilots may have made fatal mistake after takeoff

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Posted by Anomalous Sources 2025-07-12 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [215 views ] Top

#1 Anomalous Sources, you forgot to give us the URL for the article. Please add as a comment, and one of the moderators will paste it into the Source box for you.

Posted by trailing wife 2025-07-12 00:31|| 2025-07-12 00:31|| Front Page Top

#2 Unable to locate Anon's link.

Essentially same story found at Express.

Posted by Besoeker 2025-07-12 00:54|| 2025-07-12 00:54|| Front Page Top

#3 Confusion between pilots in Air India cockpit revealed by preliminary report into crash that killed 241 people on board - with new details revealed about fuel supplies switching off

Posted by Skidmark 2025-07-12 01:10|| 2025-07-12 01:10|| Front Page Top

#4 Oopsie?

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2025-07-12 02:14|| 2025-07-12 02:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Refusal by the pilot to admit he'd made a mistake because he'd lose face in front of his subordinate.
Gee, aren't foreign cultures great?
300 people and both of them died, but he died with his honor intact.

Posted by Elmomoter Mussolini9149 2025-07-12 04:56|| 2025-07-12 04:56|| Front Page Top

#6 "Death before dishonor"

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2025-07-12 10:27|| 2025-07-12 10:27|| Front Page Top

#7 TW: Sorry...

Besoeker: Thanks.

Posted by Anomalous Sources 2025-07-12 12:19|| 2025-07-12 12:19|| Front Page Top

#8 Seems..odd.

I guess, if it had one of those emergency bar switches in case of problems on the tarmac, like some dude trying to jump into an engine, but if it was a heavy flight on takeoff only a couple seconds would make a difference.

Is there video? If commercially available security system has days of video, audio, and instrumental data potential in the size of a shoe box. Like that scene in Red October, "You fool...you killed us."

Posted by swksvolFF 2025-07-12 14:17|| 2025-07-12 14:17|| Front Page Top

#9 Analysis of the Air India Preliminary Report 11 July by someone familiar with both airplanes and accident investigation. Walk-through of the report and pix of the mechanisms in question.

tl;dr: working theory is someone bumped the fuel cut-off switches. Engines were restarted but did not have time to spool up.

Posted by SteveS 2025-07-12 14:37|| 2025-07-12 14:37|| Front Page Top

#10 On the television today a reporter mentioned the turnoff toggle is not a simple switch. The pilot or copilot need to pull, twist and the turn the fuel off. The switch is designed to require intention and avoid accidental shut off. Hopefully the data black box can determine if the pilot or copilot were actively performing other activities during actual shut off to determine which cockpit person screwed up or intentionally caused the accident

Posted by Airandee 2025-07-12 17:00|| 2025-07-12 17:00|| Front Page Top

#11 Take the 15 and watch SteveS' link.

Posted by swksvolFF 2025-07-12 21:14|| 2025-07-12 21:14|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm thinking that the connection between the two switches and the flight computer was intermittent. Both switches were found in the ON position. So, either they were turned off and then back on, or they were on the whole time. Which would account for the audio wherein one pilot asks why the other pilot turned off the switches and gets the response that he didn't.

Posted by KBK 2025-07-12 21:57|| 2025-07-12 21:57|| Front Page Top

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