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2007-12-11 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Bali: Skeptics Urge World To Have the Courage to Do Nothing

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Posted by lotp 2007-12-11 12:08|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 We should be under no illusion. This is proposed to be the biggest theft in world history, hundreds of times greater than the oil for food scandal. As such, these thieves will stop at NOTHING to pull it off.

It really is key to establishing a one world government with them in charge, looting every penny they can get in perpetuity. Not just a single theft of billions, but literally trillions of dollars and control of the world into the foreseeable future.

And as nonsensical, or conspiratorial as it seems, it is not the belief of the conspiracy theorists that makes it so, but the actual thieves themselves. It is the holy grail of eternal, elite power to them. A restoration of the royal classes over the rest of mankind.

For them, it is the "New Jerusalem", "Eden", a return to the "State of Nature", "Perfect Socialism", or any other bizarre label they want to put on it. But it is all the same thing: elite control of all power and wealth.

Global Warming is just an excuse to them. They could use Global Cooling, or Overpopulation, or anything as an excuse for the same ends. And excuse will do, because it is the ends that matter, not the means.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-12-11 12:36|| 2007-12-11 12:36|| Front Page Top

#2 Evans, who believes the UN has heavily politicized science, warned there is going to be a dangerous time for science ahead.

We have a split here. Official science driven by politics, money and power, goes in one direction. Unofficial science, which is more determined by what is actually happening with the [climate] data, has now started to move off in a different direction away from fears of a man-made climate crisis, Evans explained.

The two are splitting. This is always a dangerous time for science and a dangerous time for politics. Historically science always wins these battles but there can be a lot of causalities and a lot of time in between, he concluded.

Hope he's right. The problem is that you can't prove that something won't happen. You disprove something by getting a positive prediction and confirmation that the prediction did not come to pass. Given the demonstrably poor logic and problem analysis skills of environmentalists, lefties, and liberals, you get a process whereby EVERYTHING proves global warming, regardless of what happens. Only those in the know realize that if EVERYTHING supposedly proves global warming, then a mistake has been made, not that global warming is a sure thing.

I think Anonymoose is spot on:

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2007-12-11 12:42|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2007-12-11 12:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Have the courage not only to do nothing, but to push back and call these potential wanna-be tyrants what they are. Enemies of freedom.

Sic Semper tyrannis.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-12-11 12:55|| 2007-12-11 12:55|| Front Page Top

#4 We are already seeing cooling and if the solar cycle guys are right, and I think they are, the cooling will accelerate. The global warming scare will be over by end 2008.

Posted by phil_b 2007-12-11 13:18|| 2007-12-11 13:18|| Front Page Top

#5 The Sun is VERY calm currently. The Sun is the biggest input to Earths global environment. I am not saying we don't need to move away from oil and coal for different reasons mostly having to do with security. What the UN is talking about is nothing short creating a world where the rich elites have energy and the rest of us don't. They mean to wipe out the middle class and limit freedom in ways you can't imagine. Our Congress people will be happy to go along with the plan as they are part of the few who will be part of the ruling class.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2007-12-11 13:27|| 2007-12-11 13:27|| Front Page Top

#6 The global warming scare will be over by end 2008.

I doubt it. Too many people are going to make too much money on it. The only thing that can stop global warming is another 9/11. People want to be scared.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-12-11 14:01|| 2007-12-11 14:01|| Front Page Top

#7 The Media are active participants in the global warming scam the BBC being one of the worst offenders followed by the north American press. The Press in Europe follow the lead of the BBC and the "journalists" in north America are all true believers happy to push this scam.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2007-12-11 14:48|| 2007-12-11 14:48|| Front Page Top

In 1972 the call was Nuclear Winter! It didn't fly!

I was a Meteorologist for over ten years and I agree with the Sun's activity is having more effect then man. However, here are 10 items that prove Global Warming:

1. The glacier in Yosemite Valley is gone.

2. The glaciers that formed the fjords of Scandinavia are gone.

3. The glaciers that formed the Great Lakes are gone.

4. The island of Maui was once greater in size than today's island of Hawaii but the seas rose and split it into 5 islands.

5. Hurricane activity was greater than normal in 2004 and 2005.

6. Hurricane activity was less than normal in 2006 and 2007.

7. Hurricane activity keeps fluctuating.

8. The Colorado River basin is returning to its normal dry climate versus the wet climate of the past decades.

9. My cat had more fur balls this year than last.

10. Al Gore is getting fatter.

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2007-12-11 14:54|| 2007-12-11 14:54|| Front Page Top

#9 SPoD, I agree with you about the media. The relentless bias and deception by the media is the really disturbing aspect to GW.

I stick by my end of 2008 prediction (mind you my track record for predictions isn't that great).

I believe the term is an information cascade, where the media will flip wholesale and start saying, 'We always knew this CO2 nonsense was a crock.'

Posted by phil_b 2007-12-11 15:18|| 2007-12-11 15:18|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm no scientist but isn't C02 heavier then the air. Seems simple enough to me, what more needs to be said. The this is all the MSM needs to report.

Posted by Ho Chi Theresh4727 2007-12-11 15:41|| 2007-12-11 15:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Hear! Hear! 'Moose.
You hammered that one.

Posted by Thomas Woof">Thomas Woof 2007-12-11 22:03|| 2007-12-11 22:03|| Front Page Top

#12 We are already seeing cooling and if the solar cycle guys are right, and I think they are, the cooling will accelerate. The global warming scare will be over by end 2008.

Of course it will! Don't you get it? Global Warming causes Global Cooling, and we are all going to die if we don't give our money to the thieves.

Posted by WazzaWuzzaBilly 2007-12-11 22:07|| 2007-12-11 22:07|| Front Page Top

#13 #1: "They could use Global Cooling, or Overpopulation, or anything as an excuse for the same ends."

They already have, 'moose. Weren't you around in the 1970's?

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2007-12-11 22:10|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2007-12-11 22:10|| Front Page Top

#14 They won't ever admit they're wrong, though. They'll just go on to the next world-ending crisis. And the decreasing percentage of the population that let the New York Times, etc. think for them will be just as adamant that the rest of us must change... something... to fix it.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-12-11 22:54|| 2007-12-11 22:54|| Front Page Top

#15 ION, REDDIT/BBC SCIENCE > GIANT MAGNETIC ROPES CONNECT EARTH TO THE SUN.

See the Rope, feel the Rope, be the Rope, etc. like any good Madonna Fan can. FEEL THE FORCE, LUKE!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-12-11 23:09|| 2007-12-11 23:09|| Front Page Top

#16 See REALCLEARPOLITICS for AL GORE's article in THE NATION.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-12-11 23:20|| 2007-12-11 23:20|| Front Page Top

#17 Joe, the ropes are caled Birkeland Twisted Pair Currents in Plasma Cosmology, and they not only connect Earth with Sun, but all the bodies of the solar system to Sun and also planets/moons themselves. This is part of a larger structure that interconnects the Milky Way, and it also scales upwards, to clusters and superclusters.

There is no "wind" going through the Birkeland Pairs, just an electric current--that means a flow of charged particles.

Nice discovery and a confirmation of Plasma Cosmology. Hopefully, a birdie to darkwing duck matter theory.

Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-11 23:42|| 2007-12-11 23:42|| Front Page Top

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