Hi there, !
Mon 07/07/2025 Sun 07/06/2025 Sat 07/05/2025 Fri 07/04/2025 Archives
Rantburg
559504 articles and 1928511 comments are archived on Rantburg.

Today: 55 articles and 47 comments as of 12:01.
Post a news link    Post your own article   
Area: WoT Operations    WoT Background    Non-WoT    Local News    Politix   
IDF reports Hamas’s north Gaza naval commander killed in strike on cafe last week as 130 targets hit in 24 hours
Today's Headlines
Headline Comments [Views]
Page 4: Opinion
0 [8] 
0 [3] 
0 [27] 
1 10:58 Grom the Affective [7] 
4 09:25 Skidmark [105] 
0 [47] 
3 08:19 Frank G [71] 
3 06:40 MikeKozlowski [96] 
Page 1: WoT Operations
0 [2]
1 09:57 Skidmark [19]
0 [64]
0 [59]
0 [71]
0 [53]
0 [50]
0 [51]
2 08:16 Rex Mundi [106]
2 09:30 Warthog [97]
0 [43]
0 [43]
0 [45]
0 [42]
0 [48]
1 00:13 Skidmark [92]
Page 2: WoT Background
4 07:02 Procopius2k [83]
0 [36]
0 [34]
2 02:38 Grom the Affective [81]
0 [30]
1 04:56 Guest [49]
3 04:21 Skidmark [49]
0 [46]
0 [33]
0 [34]
0 [46]
0 [29]
0 [38]
0 [35]
Page 3: Non-WoT
1 10:05 Skidmark [15]
2 03:37 Skidmark [99]
1 04:11 Skidmark [78]
3 07:28 Grom the Affective [86]
3 09:15 badanov [106]
Page 5: Russia-Former Soviet Union
0 [5]
0 [4]
0 [37]
0 [32]
0 [33]
2 07:00 NN2N1 [58]
0 [31]
0 [44]
0 [33]
Page 6: Politix
2 08:14 Frank G [83]
6 10:33 Skidmark [105]
Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
The Potemkin Mutiny: How Japanese Money Set the Black Sea on Fire
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
by Stanislav Smirnov

[REGNUM] At midday on June 20 (July 3, new style) 1905, the Russian St. Andrew's flag was lowered and the Romanian flag was raised over the battleship Prince Potemkin-Tavrichesky. Sailors were descending from the gangway - members of the crew of the rebellious ship that had left Crimea for the Romanian port of Constanta. The mutineers were preparing to divide the captured ship's cash register and go home. On June 26 (July 9), a squadron of the Black Sea Fleet arrived from Sevastopol to take back the interned ship. The Russian fleet flag was raised again on the Potemkin, and a priest sprinkled the deck with holy water - to drive out the "demon of revolution".

Thus ended one of the key and incredibly mythologized episodes of the first Russian revolution. Which - both in Soviet historical works and in the public consciousness (including in modern times) - is considered in isolation from the Russo-Japanese War, which seemed to be going on in parallel with the "popular indignation" and independently of it. The rebellion on one of the flagships of the Black Sea Fleet is perceived as something also unrelated to the course of the war in the Pacific Ocean and on the fields of Manchuria. But is this so?

The question is not only abstractly historical (in connection with the 120th anniversary of the uprising and, at the same time, the centenary of Sergei Eisenstein’s brilliant film, which is also celebrated this year), but also relevant.

WERE THERE WORMS?
The drama on the Potemkin began on June 14 (27) and lasted for more than a week. One of the Black Sea Fleet's new acquisitions became the "stage". The main characters and extras were played by more than 700 sailors and 26 officers, led by the commander, Captain 1st Rank Yevgeny Golikov.

The battleship Potemkin, a new combat ship (length - 115 m, width - 22 m) with 305 mm main caliber guns, was built at the Nikolaev shipyard, launched in 1902, and then sent to Sevastopol for completion and testing. In 1905, the battleship went to sea to conduct training firing near Odessa.

Next, we cannot help but refer to Eisenstein's film, which formatted the perception of the riot on the Potemkin. One of the first episodes of the film can shock even now, let alone viewers of 1925. Rotting, wormy meat in close-up, a sailor's face distorted with anger and the title: "Brothers! Worms!"

The sailors, driven to despair by the officers' bullying, start a mutiny. Which, we note, could not be regarded by the command (especially in war conditions) as anything other than a betrayal of the oath.

As always, in reality things were a little more complicated.

The sailors were not kept on a "diet" of rotten meat. Flour, greens and fresh vegetables, as well as 28 poods (almost 459 kg) of meat were purchased in Odessa the day before the riot. With it, "not everything is so clear-cut."

The investigation into the mutiny showed that the beef was bought at a low price and, as they would say now, with an "expiring shelf life." There were no refrigeration chambers then, and some of the meat (the one that was not immediately used in the borscht) was aired. Here is the first alarm bell: for some reason this beef was lying on the spar deck, the upper deck, in the June heat, as if it was being spoiled deliberately.

"MAIDAN" ON BOARD
The ship's doctor unwittingly contributed - and here the film does not sin against the truth - by declaring the borscht edible. But the main thing is that two members of the crew quickly and harmoniously moved the scandal past the point of no return, after which a mutiny began.

They were a native of the Volyn province, artillery non-commissioned officer Grigory Vakulenchuk, and another man with a Little Russian surname, Afanasy Matyushenko from Sevastopol. Both sympathized with the Socialist Revolutionaries, anarchists, and social democrats. Matyushenko also had experience in "protest actions" and was one of the instigators of the riot in the Lazarevsky barracks in November 1904. The command then went to meet the protesters, eased the conditions of service (this was the main demand of the sailors), and forgave the "ringleaders". But from that moment on, Afanasy Matyushenko was taken into the hands of the social democrats.

But let's return to the events on board the Potemkin. From school and Eisenstein's film we remember: Captain Golikov ordered to shoot those who were unhappy with the borscht, in response to this crazy prank almost all the sailors took up arms.

But in reality the situation looked different, judging by the research published in 2008 by military historian and archivist, Captain 3rd Rank Yuri Kardashev. Of the approximately 700 crew members, 71 people (9%) were active participants in the mutiny, 37 people (5%) were opponents, and the remaining 516 were a passive mass, wavering in their actions depending on the circumstances.

As the historian of the Russian fleet Vladimir Shigin notes, one of the key scenes of Eisenstein's film: the preparation of the execution with the removal of the tarpaulin (on which the captain allegedly ordered the bodies to be placed and thrown into the sea) is spectacular, but it relates to pirate films, and not to the real events on the Potemkin. But, judging by the testimony of eyewitnesses, the passive majority was drawn into the mutiny under other circumstances.

After the incident with the borscht, the captain lined up the crew on the poop deck, began to analyze the incident and called the guard - a murmur began among the crew: the sailors were afraid that everyone, including the innocent, could be punished "in bulk" for disobedience. At the same time, one of the officers ordered a tarpaulin from one of the launches to be moved to the deck. This coincided with the "meat" scandal and could have been perceived inappropriately - as preparation for execution. Kardashev believes that the sailors who drank a glass of vodka on an empty stomach could have become indignant.

This is where sailor Matyushenko showed his mettle: first he agitated for the refusal of dinner, forbade his comrades to take borscht from the galley, and then - when almost the entire crew had already gathered on the quarterdeck, including ten unarmed senior officers - the sailor ran out with a weapon to the lined-up team, shouting: “We’ve hanged enough, let’s hang them!”

SHOT FROM BEHIND
As eyewitnesses recalled, several members of the team immediately followed the call.

The first shot was fired by non-commissioned officer Vakulenchuk - he killed artillery lieutenant Leonid Neupokoev, who was trying to disarm the rebels.

According to one version, the propagandized artilleryman did this deliberately. According to another, another absurd accident occurred. A stoker named Nikishin (who apparently also seized one of the guns) who was on the forecastle fired at a flying seagull. The roar was somehow perceived as "officers shooting at brothers", after which Vakulenchuk "in response" dealt with Neupokoyev.

Be that as it may, after the first blood there is no retreat.

In the ensuing melee, Matyushenko personally shot and killed five of the seven officers who fell victim to the riot.

On his conscience are the deaths of senior officer Ippolit Gilyarovsky, senior mine officer Wilhelm Ton. The ship's doctor was thrown overboard. History is silent on who killed Captain Golikov. It is known that the commander tried to hide in the cabin, and when the mutineers began to break down the door, he came out. At first, the crowd discussed whether to "judge or hang" the captain, but someone from behind shouted: "Wait too long! A bullet in the forehead! Disperse!" The body of the shot Golikov was thrown overboard.

In order to understand the further course of the tragedy, it is necessary to place the events on the Potemkin in the context of two related events: the Russo-Japanese War and the first Russian revolution.

CONTEXT OF THE UPRISING
During these weeks, the Japanese army was preparing to land on the territory of the Russian Empire - on July 7, 1905, with the invasion of Sakhalin, the last major land operation of the war began.

The Russian Pacific Fleet essentially ceased to exist after the Battle of Tsushima. At the same time, even taking into account the events at Mukden, there was no talk of any collapse of the front in Manchuria. But the unsuccessful outcome of the battle increased unrest in other fleets: many sailors of the Black Sea Fleet were afraid that they would also be sent to fight in the Far East.

In the rear, unrest was spreading, caused not so much by the hardships of war (they were hardly felt), but by the activity of revolutionary parties after the tragic events of 1905, coupled with the publications of the legal and illegal opposition press. Thus, in June, a strike paralyzed one of the industrial centers of the country, Ivanovo-Voznesensk.

It should be noted that uprisings were also "ignited" in the army with enviable regularity. A day after the mutiny in the Black Sea Fleet began, a mutiny began in the Baltic - at the naval base in Libau (now Jelgava in Latvia). At the same time, on June 21, an armed uprising began in one of the largest cities of the Kingdom of Poland - Lodz - under leftist and separatist slogans.

Nervousness about being sent to war, coupled with revolutionary agitation penetrating the fleet, plus objective problems - all this turned at least part of the sailor mass into easily flammable material. Which there was someone to set on fire.

JAPANESE "GRANTS"
All this time, the "Special Institute" (also known as the "Military Mission"), headed by the Japanese military attaché in Stockholm, General Motojiro Akashi, was actively working in neutral Sweden since 1904. This residency actively worked with the separatists of the Russian outskirts. From the Akashi mission, tranches were sent to the leader of the Georgian Socialist-Federalists, Georgy Dekanozov (Dekanozishvili), and the leader of the Finnish Party of Active Resistance, Konni Zilliacus.

Overall, during the war years, the "Special Institute" spent about 1 million yen (86 million modern dollars) on work with oppositionists and revolutionaries throughout the Russian Empire. Finn Zilliacus organized two conferences of the Russian opposition with Japanese "grants."

The first one gathered in Paris. It was attended by liberals from the "Union of Liberation" (led by the future leader of the Kadets and head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Provisional Government Pyotr Milyukov ), as well as leftists. Socialist Revolutionaries arrived, including the head of the Combat Organization Yevno Azef (who reported on the progress of the event to the St. Petersburg Police Department), as well as Belarusian, Latvian, Transcaucasian and Polish nationalists and socialists.

Soon the Finnish "dispatcher" of Japanese "grants" organized the Geneva Conference - under the formal leadership of Georgy Gapon, who had "relocated" abroad, and with the participation of the Bolshevik faction of the RSDLP, headed by Vladimir Ulyanov-Lenin. At that time, Ilyich lived in the same Geneva.

The reports of a direct meeting between Lenin and Akashi are disputed by many historians. As is the version that it was with Japanese money that the Bolshevik leader in January 1905 established the publication of the newspaper Vperyod in Geneva, the successor to Iskra, which, along with the Socialist Revolutionary and liberal newspapers, fanned the flames of rebellion in the empire.

It is known that the Menshevik leader Julius Martov was against contacts with the Japanese. However, the Socialist Revolutionaries and people from the entourage of priest Gapon seized the opportunity. Money was received through General Akashi to purchase weapons (16 thousand rifles, 3 thousand revolvers, 3 million cartridges, as well as 3 tons of dynamite and other explosives), which were planned to be delivered by sea and "landed" at several points in the Grand Duchy of Finland. For these purposes, the steamship "John Grafton" was purchased in London.

The project involved Finnish and Latvian separatists, Socialist Revolutionaries (the group of Pyotr Rutenberg, the future liquidator of double agent Azef) and Bolsheviks led by the future People's Commissar of Foreign Affairs of the USSR Maxim Litvinov. The Grafton, having reached Finland from Britain, ran aground on the shore on September 8, 1905, and sank, which was very unfortunate for the cause of the revolution. The weapons were only partially removed from the sides, and the crew fled. The remaining "barrels" were raised from the bottom a few weeks later by an expedition led by the outstanding Russian diver, Second Lieutenant Pavel Gurdov. But weapons, "grants" and subversive literature were also supplied to the revolutionaries in other ways.

The mutinous heavily armed battleship was a much more valuable acquisition for the revolution than the steamship Grafton. It was not for nothing that Vladimir Ilyich seriously intended to move from Switzerland to Romania in order to coordinate the uprising from close range.

SHOTS FIRED AT ODESSA
At first glance, the spontaneously rebellious sailors had no plan of action, other than an unformed desire to support the revolution. That was how history was presented in Soviet textbooks. But the mutineers quickly developed a plan: to take the battleship to Odessa, where anti-government rallies were taking place at that time, and spread the rebellion to other ships of the Black Sea Fleet.

Here two people who have remained in the shadows until now enter the story.

These are two members of the Odessa "United Commission" (created by two city groups of the RSDLP, Bolshevik and Menshevik, to coordinate protests) - Mensheviks Konstantin Feldman and Anatoly Brzhezovsky. In other sources, the Polish surname is rendered in Russian - Berezovsky. The Bolshevik part of the commission was in contact with Geneva.

According to one version, Feldman and Berezovsky-Brzhezovsky secretly got on board in Sevastopol, as part of a group of repair workers; according to another, they got on the ship when the Potemkin approached Odessa on June 27, and the Social Democrats from the United Commission began “relationships” with the anarchist Matyushenko.

It is known that it was Comrade Feldman who proposed the bombing of Odessa, after which two shots were fired at the city from 152 mm guns with high-explosive and armor-piercing shells. He also insisted that the crew land troops and join the uprising. At the suggestion (actually the order) of the revolutionaries, the Andreevsky flag was lowered on the battleship and the red flag was raised.

This episode marked the end of Eisenstein's film. But the real story of the rebellion was just beginning.

The Odessa commission had serious plans. During the revolution, small "republics" were proclaimed all over the country, from Georgian Guria to Chita, but more interesting prospects were opening up here.

If we are to believe the report of an eyewitness of the events, journalist Stanislav Orlitsky (though it was written after the suppression of the revolution, in 1907), one of the members of the Bolshevik-Menshevik "Commission" Sergei Zuckerberg literally stated the following: "The sailors are on our side. And since the battleships are ours, the entire south will be ours. Here a Southern Republic is being created with Crimea and the most fertile lands of Volyn and Podolia... Let the old, uncultured, oppressive Moscow perish from internal strife...".

In any case, the speeches of the “committee members” (as the members of the “United Commission” were also called) featured a name that all of Russia would recognize within a few months.

This was an officer of the Black Sea Fleet, Lieutenant Pyotr Petrovich Schmidt, the son of the hero of the defense of Sevastopol and at the same time a man with a strange biography, either a “non-party socialist” thirsting for a feat, or a nervous patient, possessed by delusions of grandeur (in any case, he had been a patient in psychiatric clinics more than once).

But in June 1905, at the height of unrest in Odessa, Schmidt found himself involved not in a political but in a quasi-criminal scandal.

This, like the story of the mutiny on the cruiser Ochakov, which gave birth to a rich mythology (and at the same time the "children of Lieutenant Schmidt" Ilf and Petrov), will require a separate story. For now, let us note that during the Potemkin adventure, the strange officer did not have time to "come in handy."

Thanks to the energetic measures taken by the fleet commander, Vice-Admiral Grigory Chukhnin, and other commanders, naval and army, the revolutionary rebellion in Odessa and on the Black Sea Fleet ships was suppressed at the cost of half the city's annual budget. For the "reprisal" Admiral Chukhnin was shot by a Socialist Revolutionary terrorist in 1906, but the moment for a large-scale uprising was missed.

THE INGLORIOUS FATE OF THE INSTIGATORS
Upon learning of this, the battleship's crew was at a loss. Many realized the criminality of what they had done, but it was too late. Having assessed the situation, the Potemkin-Tavrichesky weighed anchor and headed for Romania, where the crew asked for political asylum. The Romanian authorities put forward their own conditions: the sailors surrender as military deserters, although without extradition.

At first, this did not suit the mutineers, and for some time the Potemkin, pursued by the government squadron, chaotically scurried around the Black Sea (Constanza, Feodosia, Constanza again) in search of at least some way out. The way out was the "relocation" of the mutineers, whose well-being was ensured by the plundered ship's cashbox.

It is not only a matter of glorification in the Soviet era. In 1905, a mutiny in the Black Sea Fleet after the destruction of the Pacific Fleet damaged Russia's international position. Japan, which was at war, did not hide its joy. Britain demanded that Turkey (in violation of the London Convention of 1841, the predecessor of the current Montreux Convention) allow warships into the Black Sea in order to "safeguard merchant ships." Romania "bravely" refused to extradite war criminals from the Potemkin to St. Petersburg, and Turkey did not help Russia put pressure on Bucharest.

As a result, additional arguments emerged in favor of ending the war with Japan as quickly as possible (which the American mediators insisted on) – it was necessary to pacify our own south.

But if globally Operation Potemkin was almost successful for our opponents, the immediate executors did not gain laurels. Matyushenko, for whom the Socialist Revolutionaries and Bolsheviks fought, went on a European tour, giving interviews. But his career ended quickly.

The instigator of the rebellion was sent to Russia for terrorist work, arrested in Odessa with a load of bombs and executed by sentence of a military field court in Sevastopol in October 1907.

Already in July 1905, the trial of the rebels began in Odessa - those who landed in Feodosia during the riots and were later arrested. Three were sentenced to death, which was replaced by 15 years of hard labor by imperial decree. Three more received shorter terms of hard labor, the rest were sentenced to prison companies.

The officers who survived the mutiny on the battleship Potemkin-Tavrichesky became the object of revenge after October 1917. In particular, in 1918, midshipman Boris Vakhtin was arrested by the Bolsheviks and killed in Sevastopol.

What followed is well known: the glorification of the uprising in Soviet times and an uncertain attitude in modern times.

In post-Soviet Ukraine, the mutiny on the Potemkin is interpreted as a Ukrainian uprising in "Ukrainian" Odessa against "Russian imperialism," in which "Panas Matyushenko" turns out to be the main hero. Perhaps, in modern Russia, a mutiny in wartime should no longer be perceived as a positive event in national history.

Posted by: badanov || 07/07/2025 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [47 views] Top|| File under:


Government Corruption
Miranda Devine: How the Biden admin ‘weaponized' the justice system against Trump aide Peter Navarro
[NYPost] Former first lady Jill Biden’s factotum Anthony Bernal refused to testify before Congress last week for a scheduled interview about the President Joe Biden autopen scandal.

Now Bernal will be subpoenaed by the House Oversight Committee to compel his testimony about who was really running the White House during Biden’s term — or face potential criminal charges of contempt.

That’s a real possibility for Bernal and other former White House officials implicated in the cover-up of Biden’s cognitive decline, considering that the Biden administration broke all norms when it jailed President Trump’s White House adviser Peter Navarro and former adviser Steve Bannon last year for failing to comply with congressional subpoenas to testify before Nancy Pelosi’s star chamber investigation of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

What goes around comes around.

Navarro, 75, was the first White House official in history to be imprisoned for a contempt of Congress conviction.

He served a four-month sentence in a federal prison in Miami last year.

DEM DOJ’S PRECEDENT
By contrast, the very Department of Justice that set a chilling precedent with its prosecutions of Navarro and Bannon (who also served four months in a federal prison in Connecticut last year) gave itself a pass when then-Attorney General Merrick Garland similarly was held in contempt for defying a congressional subpoena to hand over embarrassing audio recordings of Biden’s interview with special counsel Robert Hur.

As a senior White House adviser on Jan. 6, 2021, Navarro’s conviction should have had a higher bar than Bernal’s or any other former adviser’s.

But the Biden DOJ and one of its pet DC judges, President Barack Obama-appointed District Judge Amit Mehta, ignored Navarro’s legitimate concerns about executive privilege and punished him for his loyalty to his boss, Trump.



Posted by: NoMoreBS || 07/07/2025 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [71 views] Top|| File under: Tin Hat Dictators, Presidents for Life, & Kleptocrats

#1  Reading unnecessary. We watched it on the nightly news for nearly a decade.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/07/2025 5:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh, no, not another criminal contempt charge against a Dem. I m.ean, they sure taught Eric Holder, et al., a lesson.
Posted by: DooDahMan || 07/07/2025 6:51 Comments || Top||



Home Front: Politix
Yesterday's Conspiracy Theory is Today's Truth
[News With Views] The dirty, filthy game of politics in Washington, DC has saturated the prostitute media on every platform from the propaganda machine (TV) radio shows to web sites on overload regarding President Trump’s so-called One Big Beautiful Bill.[1]

Before that it was temper tantrums over DOGE by buffoons rioting. Democrats and those feeding off government contracts and absurd waste of OUR money crapping their pants as. the massive amount of fraud, waste and abuse by just about every federal agency, constitutional or otherwise, was laid out for the American people to see how they’ve been fleeced over the decades.

Oh, don’t think for a second it was only members of the Democrat/Communist Party USA now getting their money faucet turned off. Just where have all those "smaller government conservative" incumbent Republicans been the past few years (or decades) and their "oversight" committees?

President Trump campaigned on a transparent government, no more foreign wars, job growth and common sense among other goals. Expose all the cover-ups: Who really killed President Kennedy and who planned it? Hold those responsible for their crimes unless the statute of limitations saves them. The phony Russian Dossier [2]; did pedophile Jeffrey Epstein really commit suicide and did he work for the CIA or FBI under their "black box" operations, the January 6th cover-up?

So many lies. So many cover-ups, blackmail (Oh yeah), two attempts on Trump’s life and now yet another from the human garbage they call the Khomeini over in Iran. That waste of human skin has ramped it up since we obliterated their underground nuclear energy facilities and labs putting out a Fatwa on Trump.

Millions of Americans are getting angry none of the promised release of documents (other than what’s already been reported years ago) has been forthcoming. Too much declassified has been blacked out, page after page after page. Not good.

One attack on our own has pretty much become just another forgotten "incident" while the guilty walk free and get rich. Specifically, career criminal, Hildebeast Clinton. It pays to have friends in high places with lots of money. Not forgotten OUR dead and wounded, their families and friends: Benghazi.

Our U.S. Ambassador, Christopher Stevens, who was always a friend of the Libyan people wasn’t just murdered, his dead body was dragged through the streets by illiterate mobs. When the free political ads (committee hearings), finally got around to Hildebeast Clinton testifying, can we remember that cockroach’s infamous comment? After leaving office she’s lived the life of luxury with OUR men’s blood on her hands which means NOTHING to Hillary as she parades around in Omar the Tent Maker designer outfits):

Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi Debacle: Arming Jihadists in Libya . . . and Syria, Aug. 2, 2016: Looking ahead to the next installment of e-mails from WikiLeaks

"As U.S. armed forces attack ISIS in Libya, WikiLeaks is poised to remind us that ISIS is in Libya — indeed, that ISIS is ISIS — thanks to disastrous policies championed by Hillary Clinton as President Obama’s secretary of state. Also raised, yet again, is the specter of Mrs. Clinton’s lying to Congress and the American people — this time regarding a matter some of us have been trying for years to get answers about: What mission was so important the United States kept personnel in the jihadist hellhole of Benghazi in 2012?

"Specifically, did that mission involve arming the Syrian "rebels" — including al-Qaeda and forces that became ISIS — just as, at Mrs. Clinton’s urging, our government had armed Libyan "rebels" (again, jihadists) to catastrophic effect?
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/07/2025 10:23 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [8 views] Top|| File under:


'Massive conspiracy': Ex-DNC insider says party went to great lengths to hide Biden's mental decline
Posted by: Skidmark || 07/07/2025 09:38 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [3 views] Top|| File under: Tin Hat Dictators, Presidents for Life, & Kleptocrats


Hell Freezes Over As Congressional Republicans Don't Blow It
[Townhall] It's Kurt. RTWT
Posted by: Bobby || 07/07/2025 08:43 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [27 views] Top|| File under:


Science & Technology
A-10 Warthog Already Has The Capability To Use Laser-Guided Rockets To Shoot-Down Drones
A taste:
[TWZ] The A-10 could be a uniquely capable drone hunter and they already have the ability to use APKWS rockets to do it, but its career is set to end before it gets the chance.

We have just learned that one of the most successful adaptations of an existing weapon in recent memory — morphing laser-guided air-to-ground rockets into counter-drone weapons — can be accommodated on three USAF aircraft, not just two. First, the F-16 got the version of the Advanced Precision Kill Weapons System II (APKWS II) that takes 2.75 in. (70mm) Hydra rockets and turns them into drone and cruise missile busters, followed very recently by the F-15E Strike Eagle. Now we have learned that the A-10 Warthog has also received at least the ability to employ these weapons in the air-to-air role, although the type’s remaining service is now measured in months, not multiple years.

In the recently released budget request for 2026, the Pentagon documentation states that APKWSs featuring guidance sections with specialized Fixed-Wing Air-Launched Counter Unmanned Aerial Systems Ordnance (FALCO) software installed are cleared for use on the F-16, F-15E, and the A-10. The rockets use laser guidance and a proximity fuze to explode near subsonic, low-maneuverability targets like drones and cruise missiles. TWZ was first to report on the testing of this configuration of APKWS back in 2019. APKWSs were first used operationally as anti-air weapons in the surface-to-air role, with Ukraine receiving the VAMPIRE system that has proven to be highly successful.

Since then, APKWS II has entered operational U.S. service in the air-to-air role, and has become a standout in the Middle East, where F-16s swatted down Houthi drones with it at a fraction of the price of an air-to-air missile, the cheapest of which costs nearly half a million dollars. The anti-air APKWSs cost less than a tenth of that. In May, we learned the F-15E — the USAF’s most celebrated aerial drone hunter — could employ them, too. The rockets also dramatically expand the air-to-air magazine capacity of the aircraft they are mounted on (over six times the number of potential engagements in the F-15E’s case).

The A-10 as a drone hunter is an interesting prospect. The aircraft’s loiter time, slow and low-flying capabilities, and even its unique air-to-air dogfighting agility, could come in as a real benefit for taking out long-range one-way attack drones, especially the most prevalent propeller-driven type. Where the A-10 would be less effective is in rapidly taking out faster-flying drones and cruise missiles. This is due to its lower speed, with less ability to ‘run-down’ multiple targets in a short time period during incoming saturation raids. Still, AH-64 Apaches have become critical counter-drone weapons, providing screening for lower-performance, long-range one-way attack munitions, particularly in Israel. The U.S. Army is also expanding its use of the Apache in this role, and helicopters, including in Ukraine, are playing a larger role in counter-drone defense, in general. The A-10 has far superior speed capabilities over helicopters, so it does sit inside something of a sweet spot, performance-wise, for dealing with lower-end, long-range drones.

The A-10 also lacks a radar, which would make it harder for it to independently spot an incoming aerial target at distance, lock its targeting pod onto it, and successfully engage it. This could potentially be overcome with a podded radar system, at least to a degree. Leveraging datalinked target tracks from off-board platforms could also significantly offset this deficiency.

On the other hand, the A-10 can also carry a lot of rockets, and I mean a lot. Extra magazine depth would be beneficial during combat air patrols that have to confront a sustained drone onslaught. Above all else, the A-10 paired with FALCO APKWSs would be most effective at defending a certain installation or limited geographical areas, such as an island outpost or forward staging area, against long-range one-way attack drones and even some cruise missiles. The same weapons can also be used against surface targets, especially long-range unmanned surface vessels. These are roles the U.S. military will have no shortage of as it prepares for a fight in the Pacific.


Posted by: Skidmark || 07/07/2025 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [96 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Using the GAU as a Phalanx would be cool.
Posted by: Skidmark || 07/07/2025 4:28 Comments || Top||

#2  A10s cost $19,000 per block hour to operate not including munitions expenditure. It’d be economic against some of the larger prop drones that run about 20k each but without significant airspace control they are a big target for enemy ADA. And it’s not like the USAF is going to allow the production line to ever be fired up again to replace them. Great aircraft for COIN but not for contested airspace
Posted by: Gloluns Turkeyneck4904 || 07/07/2025 5:56 Comments || Top||

#3  And it’s not like the USAF is going to allow the production line to ever be fired up again to replace them.

...Tell ya a story.

Normally, when a USAF aircraft ends its production run, the tooling is carefully packed, sealed, and sent out to Davis-Monthan AFB in Arizona (the famous 'Boneyard') for storage at USAF expense, in the event that production should start again. For how long really depends on the aircraft - for instance, the F-4 tooling stayed out there until about 2010.

But in the case of the A-10, USAF dug in its heels about reopening production, and actively (and in at least one instance, threateningly) dissuaded allies from buying any. The result was that the tooling was maintained for only about five years after production ended, then they told Fairchild that if they wanted it stored they'd have to pay for it.

To their credit, Fairchild kept it up for a couple years, but then - already in financial trouble - they proceeded to screw up a project called the T-46...and in their death spiral from that, one of the first things they did was scrap the tooling.

It was gone by the mid-90s.

Mike
Posted by: MikeKozlowski || 07/07/2025 6:40 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Explosive report: Obama was the sleeper cell, Mamdani is the detonator to collapse America
[World Net Daily] A new, explosive report is alleging the same Deep State forces that brought Barack Obama to the U.S. presidency are responsible for the meteoric rise of Zohran Mamdani, the socialist who is now the Democratic nominee for New York City mayor.

The analysis Sunday by Ethan White at Gazetteller.com says: "Barack Obama was never just a president. He was a weapon — carefully installed, heavily protected, and strategically unleashed to dismantle the American Republic from within.

"Now, on July 6, 2025, the fruits of his deception are visible for anyone who dares to see through the smokescreen of media propaganda and elite manipulation.

"And the clearest product of his globalist-engineered legacy is Zohran Mamdani — a foreign-born, socialist radical openly advocating the destruction of capitalism, national identity, and constitutional law."
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/07/2025 04:21 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [105 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yes, NYC has in fact been targeted previously.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/07/2025 5:00 Comments || Top||

#2  And some might say LA mayor Karen Bass was "brought in" to destroy LA much like Columbia University applicant liar Mamdani might/will be for NYC.

Coincidence?
Posted by: DooDahMan || 07/07/2025 6:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Way too much "The Sky Is Falling" media about Mamdani. The pols in NY have a way of protecting their turf from the mayor's office. Mamdami will make a lot of noise if he is elected, hardly a future leader outside of the city.
Posted by: The Walking Unvaxed || 07/07/2025 8:13 Comments || Top||

#4  NYC

"Comrade de Blasio"
Posted by: Skidmark || 07/07/2025 9:25 Comments || Top||


A Deep Dive on B2 Performance vs ADA in Yugoslavia 19MAY99 - Doesn't Rehash Old Theories - And Pictures for Grom
Posted by: Clem+Elmish4239 || 07/07/2025 07:43 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And Pictures for Grom ????????????????????
Posted by: Grom the Affective || 07/07/2025 10:58 Comments || Top||



Who's in the News
22[untagged]
9Hamas
4Govt of Iran
2Hezbollah
2Commies
2Govt of Syria/HTS
2Houthis
2Nut Jobs
2Tin Hat Dictators, Presidents for Life, & Kleptocrats
2al-Shabaab (AQ)
1Migrants/Illegal Immigrants
1Govt of Sudan
1[untagged]
1Govt of Pakistan
1Boko Haram (ISIS)
1Palestinian Authority

Bookmark
E-Mail Me

The Classics
The O Club
Rantburg Store
The Bloids
The Never-ending Story
Thugburg
Gulf War I
The Way We Were
Bio

Merry-Go-Blog











On Sale now!


A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.

Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.

Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has dominated Mexico for six years.
Click here for more information

Meet the Mods
In no particular order...
Steve White
Seafarious
tu3031
badanov
sherry
ryuge
GolfBravoUSMC
Bright Pebbles
trailing wife
Gloria
Fred
Besoeker
Glenmore
Frank G
3dc
Skidmark

Two weeks of WOT
Mon 2025-07-07
  IDF reports Hamas’s north Gaza naval commander killed in strike on cafe last week as 130 targets hit in 24 hours
Sun 2025-07-06
  Supporters of Palestine Action, banned under UK terror laws, arrested at London protest
Sat 2025-07-05
  How not to influence President Trump: 550 ex-senior Israeli security officials urge Trump to leverage Netanyahu meeting to end Gaza war
Sat 2025-07-05
  210 Boko Haram Members, Families Surrender as Military Tightens Grip in Lake Chad - BarristerNG.com
Fri 2025-07-04
  Hezbollah has agreed to hand over its heavy weapons in Beirut and other areas to the Lebanese government
Thu 2025-07-03
  Another massive Hamas underground terror tunnel in Gaza has been found and destroyed by the IDF, connecting Rafah and Khan Yunis
Wed 2025-07-02
  LA officials charge over 40 anti-ICE protesters who allegedly assaulted officers, horses and threatened children
Wed 2025-07-02
  LA officials charge over 40 anti-ICE protesters who allegedly assaulted officers, horses and threatened child
Tue 2025-07-01
  Fierce Clashes Erupt as U.S.-Trained Special Forces Target Militant Stronghold in Somalia
Mon 2025-06-30
  Terror in Gaza: Hamas offers bounties to kill US and local aid workers, group says
Mon 2025-06-30
  Terror in Gaza: Hamas offers bounties to kill US and local aid workers, group says
Mon 2025-06-30
  Terror in Gaza: Hamas offers bounties to kill US and local aid workers, group says
Sun 2025-06-29
  Hamas leader Hakham Muhammad Issa Al-Issa killed in airstrike, IDF says
Sat 2025-06-28
  Israeli military issues new evacuation orders in central and northern Gaza
Fri 2025-06-27
  Gunmen kill 17 soldiers in northern Nigeria attacks
Thu 2025-06-26
  Lebanese Army says arrested IS Lebanon leader
Wed 2025-06-25
  Iranian - Israeli War News roundup for June 24th, 2025: Both Iran and Israel claim the win, but Iran arrested 700 for spying for Israel, hanged 3 more
Tue 2025-06-24
  President Trump has announced a ceasefire between Israel and Iran, to be followed by an official end to the war
Mon 2025-06-23
  Iran's parliment votes to mine the Strait of Hormuz

Better than the average link...



Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
216.73.216.195
Help keep the Burg running! Paypal:
WoT Operations (17)    WoT Background (14)    Non-WoT (5)    Local News (9)    Politix (2)