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2025-11-02 -Land of the Free

Universal Basic Income – Making Slavery Great Again

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Posted by Besoeker 2025-11-02 02:37|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1793 views ] Top

1 "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy" (alternatively "You'll own nothing and be happy") is a phrase published by the World Economic Forum (WEF).[1] The phrase is based on a 2016 essay by Ida Auken of Denmark, published by the WEF, about a future in which a hypothetical person relies on the sharing economy for many of their needs.[2] The phrase from the article, Welcome to 2030 and the philosophies expressed within it, has been used by critics who accuse the WEF of desiring restrictions on ownership of personal property. Wiki

Posted by Besoeker 2025-11-02 02:42|| 2025-11-02 02:42|| Front Page Top

2 Reward the non-productive and punish the productive has the usual results, no matter how you package it.

Posted by Procopius2k 2025-11-02 07:46|| 2025-11-02 07:46|| Front Page Top

3 Lyndon Johnson would be so proud... or jealous... or both...

Posted by Mercutio 2025-11-02 08:52|| 2025-11-02 08:52|| Front Page Top

4 You'll own nothing and be happy

This only works so long as systems are undisrupted, so that whatever it is can be easily borrowed from an endless, nearby stock, and as easily returned. And of course, so long as others return whatever it is in good time instead of hoarding it. Even so little as books via Kindle Unlimited or music from iTunes depend on electrical power, the internet, and the various clouds wherein information is stored to be constantly available and unbreached by the malign.

Posted by trailing wife 2025-11-02 17:07|| 2025-11-02 17:07|| Front Page Top

5 a lot of Indians on tribal lands basically exist on UBI; various free (e.g., health care) or subsidized (e.g., housing)

it keeps people from moving to take opportunities elsewhere, keeps people resentful, keeps people from becoming professional or starting businesses, etc.

bad system

Posted by Lord Garth 2025-11-02 17:17|| 2025-11-02 17:17|| Front Page Top

6 another story about Indian Tribal Lands

once upon a time I was doing some work with one of these, meeting with a focus group chosen by tribal leaders - all the focus group were men

they wanted to establish Federal/State subsidized nursing homes at the border of the tribal lands to be staffed by their women

Posted by Lord Garth 2025-11-02 17:39|| 2025-11-02 17:39|| Front Page Top

7 it keeps people from moving to take opportunities elsewhere, keeps people resentful, keeps people from becoming professional or starting businesses, etc.

I live near a reservation, and it's worse than that. The economics of the situation cause perverse incentives. The more intelligent and motivated tribal members move away when they get old enough, leaving their less capable cousins behind. Best case scenario the tribe slowly dwindles into something like a club or a badly run old folks home with federal status. Worse case, it's as rough as any urban ghetto or bad trailer park.

For example, the Summit Lake Paiute Tribe of Nevada has 200 registered members; but they don't actually live on their reservation. It's too far from services. They live in Reno, and manage their land as a sort of federally funded wilderness preserve.

I understand the history behind the current situation for Native Americans, and don't hold it against them. In fact, if we introduce UBI I think we will mostly do worse than they have. It's not a system you want to scale up.

Posted by Secret Master 2025-11-02 20:07|| 2025-11-02 20:07|| Front Page Top

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