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2025-09-30 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Why is Hamas even considering this deal when it’s infinitely worse for them than the deals they rejected in the past?
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Posted by badanov 2025-09-30 09:12|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1797 views ]  Top

1 Note that fanatical militaristic Japanese attempted a coup to prevent their Emperor from surrendering.
Posted by Procopius2k 2025-09-30 09:53||   2025-09-30 09:53|| Front Page Top

2 They still won't accept it. You can't apply logic and reason to rabid animals. You can simply cull them to prevent further loss.
Posted by Silentbrick 2025-09-30 11:01||   2025-09-30 11:01|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-09-30 11:25||   2025-09-30 11:25|| Front Page Top

4 For Hamas to admit defeat is to admit that Islam can lose. But the proof that Islam is correct is that they conquer, they win. For Hamas to lose, especially after the ISIS caliphate was destroyed, is proof that Islam is wrong, which is intolerable. Possibly they will accept President Trump’s deal with the mental reservation that is it only a hudna, but that will just delay the inevitable return to fighting. This is checkmate — no matter what Hamas does, they will be wiped out. The only question is whether it is in three days or sometime in next year.
Posted by trailing wife 2025-09-30 12:12||   2025-09-30 12:12|| Front Page Top

5 This is a win win*. Hamas is gone either way. Honestly, I never thought I would live to see this day and now we are on the cusp of total victory.


*(except for the remaining hostages and their families)
Posted by Difar Dave 2025-09-30 12:39||   2025-09-30 12:39|| Front Page Top

6 great if everything works

but I was actually hoping Hamas would surrender the day after winning a voter resolution in the 2026 midyear Dem Natl Convention.
Posted by Lord Garth 2025-09-30 13:40||   2025-09-30 13:40|| Front Page Top

7 #4 TW, Every October Egypt celebrates their glorious victory in 1973.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-09-30 14:18||   2025-09-30 14:18|| Front Page Top

8 I know, Grom. When Mr. Wife worked in Egypt in 1987, his factory was in October 7th City outside Cairo.

But even though they “won” — because they got back the Sinai by negotiation afterward — they still got to enjoy the humiliation of being utterly defeated militarily and nearly losing Cairo to Ariel Sharon. And they haven’t dared try the direct military route since.
Posted by trailing wife 2025-09-30 14:43||   2025-09-30 14:43|| Front Page Top

9 And they haven’t dared try the direct military route since.

Yet. Don't underestimate how crazy they can be.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-09-30 14:47||   2025-09-30 14:47|| Front Page Top

10 That’s what Hamas was supposed to accomplish. But that failed dismally, too.
Posted by trailing wife 2025-09-30 14:50||   2025-09-30 14:50|| Front Page Top

11 ^IMO, Hamas hoped that Israel will be stopped by US - as usual.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-09-30 14:56||   2025-09-30 14:56|| Front Page Top

12 Of course. And the world expected it as well, which is why so many governments are rearing up on their hind legs to replace the missing American help.
Posted by trailing wife 2025-09-30 15:40||   2025-09-30 15:40|| Front Page Top

13 Listen to this.
Posted by Matt 2025-09-30 20:39||   2025-09-30 20:39|| Front Page Top

14 Great minds,Matt. That’s the third posting of the thing today, because it’s just that good. :-)
Posted by trailing wife 2025-09-30 20:59||   2025-09-30 20:59|| Front Page Top

15 Oops! Sorrryy.
Posted by Matt 2025-09-30 21:02||   2025-09-30 21:02|| Front Page Top

23:38 trailing wife
22:07 Jairong+Scourge+of+the+Gepids2435
21:02 Matt
20:59 trailing wife
20:39 Matt
20:39 Lord Garth
20:37 Lord Garth
20:36 Anomalous Sources
20:33 Anomalous Sources
20:33 Lord Garth
20:18 swksvolFF
19:01 DooDahMan
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18:24 JohnQC
18:24 Frank G
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16:39 Lord Garth
16:30 swksvolFF
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15:47 Matt
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