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2025-09-25 Economy
$2.2 billion solar plant in California turned off after years of wasted money: ‘Never lived up to its promises'
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1 Wisconsin unveils historic solar farm with battery storage for round-the-clock power
Posted by Skidmark 2025-09-25 06:38||   2025-09-25 06:38|| Front Page Top

2 If circa 2010 solar isn’t viable in the sun-baked Mojave, it’s not likely to be viable elsewhere. It’s old tech, but we can’t afford an $1.5B upgrade every 15 years for marginally better output out of a facility that is irrelevant to base load.
Most of these initiatives were entirely scams or at least deeply flawed. Giving the Green Energy lobby a mulligan is rewarding them for ripping us off the first time. Entertaining new project proposals for improved fairy dust is codependent crap. Nukes yes. Windmills no.
Posted by Super Hose 2025-09-25 07:01||   2025-09-25 07:01|| Front Page Top

3 

Sold on the Environmentally Safer than ______ Hype.
The DC Swamp and Elite were made $100's of Millions richer, using this Solar lie. In fact, certain Political candidates re-election funds saw BIG $$$$$$ donations. (see opensecrets.org)

Given, the actual MTBF & ROI for a typical home Solar panel is really around 10 years. Then the costs of Solar Panel Disposal, which is NOT Environmentally safe or neutral comes into play.

So, many owners, now see it as just another DC Scam.

BTW: Forbes Mag. had a good tech article a while back, google/D2D for it.
Posted by NN2N1 2025-09-25 07:11||   2025-09-25 07:11|| Front Page Top

4 Rapid rise of AI puts new urgency on Congress to unleash American energy
Posted by Skidmark 2025-09-25 07:57||   2025-09-25 07:57|| Front Page Top

5 Gee... it is almost like this whole green energy thing is a scam.
Posted by DarthVader 2025-09-25 08:43||   2025-09-25 08:43|| Front Page Top

6 Utility scale Batteries to handle bumps in demand is growing. Still has a way to go but eventually it will make solar and wind closer to being useful
Posted by Lord Garth 2025-09-25 09:17||   2025-09-25 09:17|| Front Page Top

7 Can we disconnect California for the same reason?
Posted by ed in texas 2025-09-25 10:45||   2025-09-25 10:45|| Front Page Top

8 Sold on the Environmentally Safer than ______ Hype.

Ignoring how many thousands die every year from sun exposure, cancers, sunstroke,...

It's not safe, its just nothing you can avoid unless you are a Morlock.
Posted by Procopius2k 2025-09-25 10:53||   2025-09-25 10:53|| Front Page Top

9 ^#4 - so the AI scam trumps (sorry) the green energy scam?
Posted by Bobby 2025-09-25 12:19||   2025-09-25 12:19|| Front Page Top

10 Shades of Solyndra.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2025-09-25 13:20||   2025-09-25 13:20|| Front Page Top

11 Utility scale Batteries

There has been serious research into better batteries, both large and small, over the past fifteen years or so.
Posted by trailing wife 2025-09-25 19:31||   2025-09-25 19:31|| Front Page Top

12 ^ Including fire-fighting options which appear to be solely "Surround with water and let it burn"
Posted by Frank G 2025-09-25 19:54||   2025-09-25 19:54|| Front Page Top

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