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2025-07-04 Science & Technology

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Posted by badanov 2025-07-04 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [209 views ] Top

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While Battle-Tanks, still have their justified uses and application in certain types of combat situations. The conditions and nature of the terrain however do limit their application on many seasonally impaired battlefields.

Given, the Ukraine example of 26 Abrams tanks out of 31 tank destroyed. It tends to indicate a more modern solution is needed, than the 112+ y/o idea of using 70 tons, at 30ft long x 12ft wide, and 8ft tall of exposed metal, moving along in open view on a modern battlefield.

There is little argument that the battlefield has changed many times in 100+ years. The use of massive antiarmor solutions, have gone from artillery/bazooka, to CLGP, Javelins, Stingers and enemy shoulder fired weapons. All of which make a WWII bazooka look like a pea shooter.

Either way, tanks are at a much more serious disadvantage than back in the 1940's, 50's and 60's.

Maybe the D.O.D. should look more at drone swamps (flying or land crawlers) as more effective than the 100+ y/o idea of a $20M battle tank?

Posted by NN2N1 2025-07-04 06:46|| 2025-07-04 06:46|| Front Page Top

#2 The Abrams was designed to fight T-72's. Did that quite well, thank you. The problem is, it's also assumed to be deployed under absolute air superiority.
If you can't get that, it's toast.

Posted by ed in texas 2025-07-04 08:16|| 2025-07-04 08:16|| Front Page Top

#3 A moving foxhole attracts the eye = Bill Mauldin 1944.

Posted by Albert McCoy9505 2025-07-04 08:49|| 2025-07-04 08:49|| Front Page Top

#4 I would note that while losses are high and drones are a nee threat, both sides in Ukraine still rely on tanks.

Posted by Throlush Dark Lord of the Nebraskans2736 2025-07-04 09:28|| 2025-07-04 09:28|| Front Page Top

#5 It tends to indicate a more modern solution is needed

Actually its an old solution - combined arms combat which as demonstrated across the globe is rather difficult to execute.

Posted by Procopius2k 2025-07-04 09:32|| 2025-07-04 09:32|| Front Page Top

#6 both sides in Ukraine still rely on tanks

Because that's what they have.
Hammer, nail.

Posted by Skidmark 2025-07-04 11:28|| 2025-07-04 11:28|| Front Page Top

#7 "Buy Russian tanks! They're the best! T-14's available in mint condition! Free vodka and blondes available with every purchase!"

Posted by Matt 2025-07-04 11:57|| 2025-07-04 11:57|| Front Page Top

#8 Needs a point defense system, like Saturn Missiles with a RF SEAD auto-launch, or a laser/microwave system.

Posted by swksvolFF 2025-07-04 12:01|| 2025-07-04 12:01|| Front Page Top

#9 Needs a LOT of things - cope cage, AI auto-defense against drones, drone jammers, exit to the rear of the vehicle, auto-loader - and that's from an 11B not a tanker . . .

Posted by Clem+Elmish4239 2025-07-04 16:28|| 2025-07-04 16:28|| Front Page Top

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