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2025-06-14 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
In first, Israel reportedly strikes Iran's critical infrastructure, hitting major gas field
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Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-06-14 12:15|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1782 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Iran 

1 20 min ago Reports: 100 missiles launched in barrage, dozens fell in Syrian territory
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-06-14 17:05||   2025-06-14 17:05|| Front Page Top

2 Were those dozens knocked down short of their goal, Grom, or is Iranian aim as bad as the Gazan’s, that they entirely missed the target country?
Posted by trailing wife 2025-06-14 17:37||   2025-06-14 17:37|| Front Page Top

3  From today's phone call between Macron 🇫🇷 and Netanyahu 🇮🇱:

Netanyahu: I need your help with Iran

Macron: No way, France won't join your attack

Netanyahu: Actually, I wanted you to teach them how to surrender...
Posted by 3dc 2025-06-14 17:38||   2025-06-14 17:38|| Front Page Top

4 Not to split hairs, but if civilians are operating oil wells / gas fields isn't that striking civilian targets? Understand both sides painting the other as the villain in wartime situations. And this will ultimately be a war, not a special military action.

Interesting point - Israel hasn't deliberately struck another "peer" country since 1973. Since then it's been Hezbollah, Hamas, Syrian insurgents, Houthi (and that's in the past week). Squaring off for a fight against an actual country rather than a militia/terrorist outfit may present a different set of challenges from a broad range of perspectives.
Posted by Clem+Elmish4239 2025-06-14 18:30||   2025-06-14 18:30|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Gleng Whaick2262 2025-06-14 18:53||   2025-06-14 18:53|| Front Page Top

6 Not to split hairs, but if civilians are operating oil wells / gas fields isn't that striking civilian targets?

You mean all the French, Italian, Germany railroads and their workers in WW2? It's part of the infrastructure. After we hit the petroleum production facilities the Germans faced a dire situation with mobility. War is hell.
Posted by Procopius2k 2025-06-14 18:56||   2025-06-14 18:56|| Front Page Top

7 Iran is out of intelligent people. All that's left is inbred sociopaths.
Posted by Regular joe 2025-06-14 18:57||   2025-06-14 18:57|| Front Page Top

8 Since then it's been Hezbollah, Hamas, Syrian insurgents, Houthi (and that's in the past week). Squaring off for a fight against an actual country rather than a militia/terrorist outfit may present a different set of challenges from a broad range of perspectives.

All of which took control of their "countries". Smoke em
Posted by Frank G 2025-06-14 19:09||   2025-06-14 19:09|| Front Page Top

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Posted by badanov 2025-06-14 21:30||   2025-06-14 21:30|| Front Page Top

10 The oil wells and gas fields were nationalized under the Shah. After the 1979 revolution, the Mullahcracy took over, and all that has belonged to the Ministry of Petroleum ever since. So it’s like everything in the Soviet Union belonged to the Soviet government, or everything in Nazi Germany was controlled, if not owned, by the Nazi government. Likewise, once Hamas and Hezbollah started using hospitals, schools, and private homes to hide military matériel, entries to military tunnels, and command & control centers, they became legitimate military targets, despite the presence of civilian human shields — the harm to them is legally on the shoulders of Hamas/Hezbollah.

American military bases have civilian employees and contractors, but are military — and therefore military targets for the enemy — nonetheless.

The basic principle in this case could be worded as God does not mean the Torah to be a suicide pact, which the less Jewish or more American might rephrase referencing the Constitution in the passive voice to similar effect. Or another way to look at it is the statement attributed to both Winston Churchill and George Orwell, though possibly it was someone else altogether: We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm. John Ringo’s latest opus, Not That Kind of Good Guy is a darkly amusing, extended riff on the theme, but he served in the 82nd Airborne.
Posted by trailing wife 2025-06-14 21:38||   2025-06-14 21:38|| Front Page Top

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