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2023-08-23 -Obits-

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Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2023-08-23 13:25|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top
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#1 BBC here. Shot down by Russian air defense. Maybe.

Posted by Matt 2023-08-23 13:36|| 2023-08-23 13:36|| Front Page Top

#2 That is what I am seeing too Matt.

Posted by DarthVader 2023-08-23 13:46|| 2023-08-23 13:46|| Front Page Top

#3 Prigozhin's "right-hand man" Dmytro Utkin was also on board the plane that crashed.

He’s dead as well.

Posted by DarthVader 2023-08-23 13:46|| 2023-08-23 13:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Video of crash.

Content warning, two bodies that are pretty chewed up are shown.

Posted by DarthVader 2023-08-23 13:48|| 2023-08-23 13:48|| Front Page Top

#5 A heartfelt thank you to Snowy Think and Mercutio for being the first to bring this to our attention, and to the rest bringing further information to us in comments.

Truly, Rantburg is a team project. :-)

Posted by trailing wife 2023-08-23 13:50|| 2023-08-23 13:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Set as today’s site headline.

Posted by trailing wife 2023-08-23 13:51|| 2023-08-23 13:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Now we can add something to "Don't get off the boat" and "Don't get on the boat to begin with."

"Don't get on the plane."

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2023-08-23 13:53|| 2023-08-23 13:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Co-Pilot: "Congratulations. Today we are being joined on our flight by Evgeny Prigozhin!"
Pilot: "Fuuuuuuuck"

Posted by Frank G 2023-08-23 13:56|| 2023-08-23 13:56|| Front Page Top

#9 The Times of Israel has Ay Pee’s take:

Plane allegedly carrying Wagner chief Prigozhin crashes after mutiny against Putin

A business jet en route from Moscow to St. Petersburg crashed today, killing all ten people on board, Russian emergency officials say. Mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin was on the passenger list, officials say, but it isn’t immediately clear if he was on board.

Unconfirmed media reports say the jet belonged to Prigozhin, founder of the Wagner private military company.

Russia’s civilian aviation regulator, Rosaviatsia, says Prigozhin was on the passenger list. However, it’s not immediately clear if he had boarded the flight.

Note the caveats. The 48 Hour Rule holds true.

Posted by trailing wife 2023-08-23 13:56|| 2023-08-23 13:56|| Front Page Top

#10 Utkin - dead as well.

Putin's SMO finally got a Nazi. Predict a spate of heart attacks (gravity assisted) for those of questionable loyalty.

Posted by Enver Slager8035 2023-08-23 14:01|| 2023-08-23 14:01|| Front Page Top

#11 The shoot-down is getting, uh, mixed reviews on Russian social media, like this.

Posted by Matt 2023-08-23 14:25|| 2023-08-23 14:25|| Front Page Top

#12
Suchomimus' video on this

Posted by DarthVader 2023-08-23 14:31|| 2023-08-23 14:31|| Front Page Top

#13 And here is Volodya's reaction.

Posted by Matt 2023-08-23 14:33|| 2023-08-23 14:33|| Front Page Top

#14 I’m on my phone, Matt. Is he singing “Tradition?”

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2023-08-23 15:15|| 2023-08-23 15:15|| Front Page Top

#15 The bodies of Prigozhin and Utkin have been identified.

They are dead & were blown up.

Wagner affiliated Grey Zone confirms Prigozhin is dead.

Posted by DarthVader 2023-08-23 15:32|| 2023-08-23 15:32|| Front Page Top

#16 Hmmmmmmmmm.

Posted by DooDahMan 2023-08-23 15:39|| 2023-08-23 15:39|| Front Page Top

#17 Anybody doing a wellness check on Dale?

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-08-23 15:43|| 2023-08-23 15:43|| Front Page Top

#18 Anton Gerashchenko: A source in Prigozhin's entourage: «Yevgeny Prigozhin had a plan of Wagner PMC operations in case of his death. The details of this plan are not disclosed».

Putin leaving Kursk. Night of the Long Knives for Wagner survivors? Report of a Russian cargo aircraft already in Belarus to ferry Wagner members.

Posted by Enver Slager8035 2023-08-23 15:58|| 2023-08-23 15:58|| Front Page Top

#19 Because I forgot earlier:

'e's pining for the fjords!

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2023-08-23 16:07|| 2023-08-23 16:07|| Front Page Top

#20 Sergei Surovikin, a Prigozhin ally, was relieved earlier today from his leadership of the Russian Aerospace Forces (including air defense).

He may have hindered the shootdown otherwise.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2023-08-23 16:26|| 2023-08-23 16:26|| Front Page Top

#21 List of passengers

Valery Chekalov

Posted by Enver Slager8035 2023-08-23 16:26|| 2023-08-23 16:26|| Front Page Top

#22 Passengers:
Propustin Sergey
Makaryan Evgeniy
Totmin Alexander
Chekalov Valeriy
Utkin Dmitry
Matuseev Nikolay
Prigozhin Evgeniy

Crew members:
Levshin Aleksei, commander
Karimov Rustam, co-pilot
Raspopova Kristina, flight attendant

Posted by Enver Slager8035 2023-08-23 16:38|| 2023-08-23 16:38|| Front Page Top

#23 Hillary and Putin are buds, this was just a favor returned...

Posted by 49 Pan 2023-08-23 17:03|| 2023-08-23 17:03|| Front Page Top

#24 Don’t think i would want to any part of that aircrew on that cargo plane @ Belarus. Likely to encounter cumulu-explosive cloud formations

Posted by USN, Ret. 2023-08-23 17:37|| 2023-08-23 17:37|| Front Page Top

#25 Perhaps I’m too cynical - what are we being distracted from?

Posted by Slenter Panda4300 2023-08-23 17:44|| 2023-08-23 17:44|| Front Page Top

#26 1/2 Posted by Raspopova Kristina, flight attendant several years ago.

Posted by Enver Dingle4916 2023-08-23 17:51|| 2023-08-23 17:51|| Front Page Top

#27 2/2 Posted by Raspopova Kristina, flight attendant several years ago.

Posted by Enver Dingle4916 2023-08-23 17:53|| 2023-08-23 17:53|| Front Page Top

#28 Russian Wagner Group warlord Prigozhin among dead on plane that crashed, killing 10, officials say

Posted by Skidmark 2023-08-23 18:04|| 2023-08-23 18:04|| Front Page Top

#29 It's everywhere.

Russian officials claim Wagner warlord Yevgeny Prigozhin WAS on plane which crashed near Moscow amid growing mystery over his fate - while 'passenger list' for doomed jet is published and claims mercenary group's 'neo-Nazi' No2 was also on-board

Posted by Skidmark 2023-08-23 18:07|| 2023-08-23 18:07|| Front Page Top

#30 It's a great way to go off the radar.

Posted by M. Murcek 2023-08-23 18:40|| 2023-08-23 18:40|| Front Page Top

#31 #17 - Dale is fine. He's of the "Putin is a Geostrategy Genius" cult

Posted by Frank G 2023-08-23 18:45|| 2023-08-23 18:45|| Front Page Top

#32 Your #26 looks like a fairly normal martial arts display, Enver Dingle4916, of the kind of thing done by the Tae Kwan Do school Mr. Wife and the trailing daughters went to until the girls left home for their own lives, and Mr, Wife had one too many surgeries to repair wear on rotator cuffs, spine, and knees — only it must be said that that the Tae Kwan Do school concentrated more on precision and power rather than surviving on the battlefield...

My question, though, is what was the purpose of the smoke in this situation? I found it kept me from seeing details of the exercise that looked interesting, which I’m sure was not the intent.

Posted by trailing wife 2023-08-23 18:52|| 2023-08-23 18:52|| Front Page Top

#33 Ok, did anyone have 23 August 2023 on their Prigozhin lotto ticket?

Posted by Procopius2k 2023-08-23 20:03|| 2023-08-23 20:03|| Front Page Top

#34 TW. My assessment is that this is a partial display of military training for Russia's youth for family and friends in the observing crowd. Patrial in that it does not involve weapons, strictly hand to hand combat. But training not neat as lethal to Krav Maga in the West. Therefore, mildly comparable to the ROTC, high school chapters. The smoke canisters emulate battlefield conditions.

Interestingly the units from Russia that pushed Ukraine back was Wagner. Regular Russian units are not doing so well. So all of the huff and puff got a reality check in Ukraine, and that check was not good.

Posted by Enver Dingle4916 2023-08-23 20:06|| 2023-08-23 20:06|| Front Page Top

#35 Something about this is weird. I don't know what it is, but my spider sense is tingling.

Posted by SteveS 2023-08-23 21:52|| 2023-08-23 21:52|| Front Page Top

#36 Thank you for explaining, my dear. Rantburg University for the win!

Posted by trailing wife 2023-08-23 21:57|| 2023-08-23 21:57|| Front Page Top

#37 Wagner troops threatening Moscow over Prigozhin's death.

Posted by Jeremiah Jomosing7109 2023-08-23 22:44|| 2023-08-23 22:44|| Front Page Top

#38 To piggyback on to what Enver Dingle4916 said, yeah training is just that. Training. You see how things work in the real world when you do it a often it kicks you in the ass.

I was trained by people that actually used this in the real world and the black belts that "trained" in it that I saw later were shit. There is a documentary where an actual trainer of the Devil's Brigade (which he learned from the Hong Kong Police that fought the gangs) completely dismantled the "trained" special forces guys proves that knowledge and tactics win. Every time.

That video was propaganda. Pure and simple. Looked cool, but they would die quickly on the streets.

Posted by DarthVader 2023-08-23 23:41|| 2023-08-23 23:41|| Front Page Top

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