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2022-05-05 Science & Technology

Moment £4m next-generation Russian super-tank with reinforced steel and special automatic defence system is blown up by Ukrainian army just days after making its battlefield debut

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Posted by Skidmark 2022-05-05 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 ...Keep in mind the -90 is based on the T-72.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2022-05-05 06:33|| 2022-05-05 06:33|| Front Page Top

#2 I'd like to hear from a tank expert to confirm the claim.

Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2022-05-05 06:34|| 2022-05-05 06:34|| Front Page Top

#3

T-90M or TU-90M (Tits-Up) ☺

Posted by NN2N1 2022-05-05 08:05|| 2022-05-05 08:05|| Front Page Top

#4 The T-90 is a huge piece of shit. This guy breaks it down pretty well.

It is basically a T-72 variant. The upgraded features of the T-90M are a digital display, blow out panels and the commander finally has his own infrared display. The armor is still just the same rolled steel as the T-72 however and the full powered ammunition that can defeat western tanks that Russia made is too long for the autoloader so the T-90 still used the old ammunition. In fact the only tank that can use the new ammunition is the T-14 and that isn't going into full production runs anytime soon.

So, have fun Vladimir.

Posted by DarthVader 2022-05-05 08:13|| 2022-05-05 08:13|| Front Page Top

#5 I'd like to hear from a tank expert to confirm the claim.

The T-90M has a more advanced composite layered armor similar to the M1 and the Challenger, making it a tougher kill to both HEAT and solid shot.

Also included is a more advanced fire control system and Thermal sights.

As someone pointed out in a thread yesterday, the problem with Russian tanks aren't only the tanks, but how they are used.

Russian SOP regarding tanks is that they are just a big gun to bring into a fight. That makes them easy pickings for light or dismounted infantry.

Posted by badanov 2022-05-05 08:15|| 2022-05-05 08:15|| Front Page Top

#6 Why is that tank operating on its own without any apparent support around it? One would think by now the Russians would have integrated air defense postures into their tactical battleplan.

It's not like they don't understand the concept. The Egyptians, under their tutelage, covered the airspace over the Suez in the '73 war. It was a mix and mass of air defense that the Israelis suffered heavily from. It took the armor leaping the canal and taking it out that allow the IAF to regain the skies. However, the Egyptians couldn't get out from underneath the air defense umbrella without suffering a check on ground operations.

Again a near total lack of combined arms integration at the tactical level.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-05-05 08:17|| 2022-05-05 08:17|| Front Page Top

#7 /\ The concept of a Combined Arms Task Force appears to be a bridge too far.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-05-05 08:41|| 2022-05-05 08:41|| Front Page Top

#8 ^ The concept of logistics seems to be a bridge to far

Posted by DarthVader 2022-05-05 09:26|| 2022-05-05 09:26|| Front Page Top

#9 They're losing generals, and if Putin is paranoid enough they'll lose even higher ranks too.

I wonder if any of their replacements are taking notes about what works and what doesn't?

Posted by James 2022-05-05 09:32|| https://idontknowbut.blogspot.com 2022-05-05 09:32|| Front Page Top

#10 Because the Russian society has become a totally corrupt system, so the normal logic and equipment they could have is consumed in the theft process.

You become a general officer, police officer or politician to steal from the nation.

Caring about tactics and soldiers isn't part of that process.

Posted by Omaing Stalag1261 2022-05-05 10:05|| 2022-05-05 10:05|| Front Page Top

#11 ^ It's different here in the USA how, exactly?

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-05-05 10:08|| 2022-05-05 10:08|| Front Page Top

#12 I'd be curious to see how a Tesla truck with that folded steal handles modern armaments.

Posted by ruprecht 2022-05-05 10:48|| 2022-05-05 10:48|| Front Page Top

#13 Re #11: We do it in the name of reparations?

Posted by Mercutio 2022-05-05 12:36|| 2022-05-05 12:36|| Front Page Top

#14 We bagged one last year on duck season opener.

Posted by Woodrow 2022-05-05 15:33|| 2022-05-05 15:33|| Front Page Top

#15 Experts have previously noted that older Russian tanks are plagued by the so-called “jack-in-the-box” effect — a defect that Western militaries have been aware of for decades

The invading country’s Soviet-era tanks — including the T-72 and T-80, which have been used in Ukraine — suffer from the defect, The Drive said.

The “jack-in-the-box” effect, the result of a pressure shockwave caused by the explosion of stored ammunition, makes them susceptible to losing their tops in direct hits..

Posted by Woodrow 2022-05-05 15:46|| 2022-05-05 15:46|| Front Page Top

#16 The top staying on after a direct hit probably doesn't help much.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-05-05 15:55|| 2022-05-05 15:55|| Front Page Top

#17 The Russians have been rebuilding older T-72s to the T-72BM and even building new ones rather than buying T-90's. They don't want the T-90.

Posted by magpie 2022-05-05 17:09|| 2022-05-05 17:09|| Front Page Top

#18 Meanwhile, someone else is producing better knock offs.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-05-05 18:16|| 2022-05-05 18:16|| Front Page Top

#19 Russian Generals are the type of Yes Men that tell the Tyrant what he wants to hear. They are not really Generals.

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