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2017-03-13 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Iran announces mass production of domestic main battle tank-cool autoloader

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Posted by Skidmark 2017-03-13 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1758 views ] Top
File under: Govt of Iran

1 So, they make it from Russian supplied parts - or the Russians don't trust the "chernozopii" even that much?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-03-13 03:55|| 2017-03-13 03:55|| Front Page Top

2 Probably both - the Iranians probably got a basic 'tank in a box'.

But they didn't get the really cool stuff, like the armor. Likely they also had to provide their own engine and power-train, and the "electro-optical fire control system, a laser rangefinder, and a ballistic computer." they got buying from either China, ex-Soviet satellites, or on the black arms market.

Posted by Pappy 2017-03-13 08:23|| 2017-03-13 08:23|| Front Page Top

3 and why does Iran even need Tanks?

they can intimidate lightly armed protesters but even a Hummer with a few automatic guns would do the second task better than a tank

I guess the tank looks better in a parade

Posted by lord garth 2017-03-13 09:14|| 2017-03-13 09:14|| Front Page Top

4 and why does Iran even need Tanks?

Given the current trends, one can assume that Iran will use them in an expeditionary role eventually.

Aside from that, the more likely reason is defense, with possible export applications.

Posted by Pappy 2017-03-13 11:55|| 2017-03-13 11:55|| Front Page Top

5 and why does Iran even need Tanks?

Because Russia won't sell them to the NKors.
Iran can trade them for missiles.

Posted by Skidmark 2017-03-13 13:18|| 2017-03-13 13:18|| Front Page Top

6 Iraq and Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are all ideal tank territory.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2017-03-13 13:38|| 2017-03-13 13:38|| Front Page Top

7 Iraqand Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are all ideal tank territory. Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain

The issue frequently NOT discussed (often overlooked) about armor is it's huge logistical tail. It's not like jumping in your F-150 in Atlanta, topping off your fuel tank, and being in Henderson, KY seven or eight hours later.

Posted by Besoeker 2017-03-13 13:49|| 2017-03-13 13:49|| Front Page Top

8 Drink UP!

Posted by Frank G 2017-03-13 14:34|| 2017-03-13 14:34|| Front Page Top

9 Iraq can be reached via maritime transport. Same with Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, etc.

As I said, it'd be in an expeditionary capacity if they're used outside of Iran, with the associated support and transport assets. Definitely not in a 'blitzkreig' thunder-across-the-fields capacity.

Posted by Pappy 2017-03-13 16:12|| 2017-03-13 16:12|| Front Page Top

10 and why does Iran even need Tanks?

Because they all still re-fighting Yom Kippur when IDF armor crushed numerically superior Arab armored corps.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2017-03-13 16:27|| 2017-03-13 16:27|| Front Page Top

11 and why does Iran even need Tanks?
In living memory they were invaded by the armored forces of Iraq. Their armored units fought quite well (per Cordesman) despite being the hollowed out leftovers from the Shah's old professional army.

Posted by magpie 2017-03-13 17:37|| 2017-03-13 17:37|| Front Page Top

12 Because they all still re-fighting Yom Kippur when IDF armor crushed numerically superior Arab armored corps.

Seems IDF refought previous wars with the Arabs the last time they went up against the Hesbies...

BLUF: Don't underestimate your enemies.

Posted by Pappy 2017-03-13 18:45|| 2017-03-13 18:45|| Front Page Top

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