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2025-12-16 Economy

Valero Refinary Will Lose $1B but will close CA Refinery

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Posted by Lord Garth 2025-12-16 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1815 views ] Top

1 Los Angeles still produces oil. Next time you fly out of LAX, look over the window and you can see the pumps in the ocean outside of El Segundo, with a pipeline to the refinery onshore.

Posted by Jairong+Scourge+of+the+Gepids2435 2025-12-16 00:03|| 2025-12-16 00:03|| Front Page Top

2 Get what you vote for. Good and hard.

Posted by DarthVader 2025-12-16 01:05|| 2025-12-16 01:05|| Front Page Top

3 Some of the buildings in LA are just hides for oil pumps, they can't help but fuck themselves.

Posted by chris 2025-12-16 01:30|| 2025-12-16 01:30|| Front Page Top

4 THUMS islands in Long Beach.

Posted by Super Hose 2025-12-16 07:00|| 2025-12-16 07:00|| Front Page Top

5 I can hear Huell Howser’s voice for that episode of California Gold.

Posted by Super Hose 2025-12-16 07:03|| 2025-12-16 07:03|| Front Page Top

6 re oil production in Californa

back in mid 1980s they were pumping about 1M barrels per day

nowadays, it is about 25% of that

also now California consumes about 2M barrels of oil per day

Posted by Lord Garth 2025-12-16 09:21|| 2025-12-16 09:21|| Front Page Top

7 ^Where do their water & electricity come from?

Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-12-16 09:31|| 2025-12-16 09:31|| Front Page Top

8 California’s water and electricity — at least some of it — come from outside the state, Grom.

Posted by trailing wife 2025-12-16 09:41|| 2025-12-16 09:41|| Front Page Top

9 ^Exactly my point.

Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-12-16 09:42|| 2025-12-16 09:42|| Front Page Top

10 Only non-fossil-fuel-generated electrons are consumed in CA, except for all the others

Posted by Frank G 2025-12-16 10:14|| 2025-12-16 10:14|| Front Page Top

11 ^ 7,8,9

Regarding water, California imports water from the Colorado River watershed for a lot of the agriculture in the Imperial Valley but otherwise is self sufficient with northern California exporting water to southern California (by the way, almost all reservoirs in California are at about average capacity for this time of year).

Regarding electricity, California is a net importer but the situation is quite complicated. California exports electricity during daylight on many days because of rooftop solar. However, on rainy days it imports a lot of electricity. On net, California imports about 20% of its electricity. Most of the imports are from the Pacific NW or British Columbia.

Posted by Lord Garth 2025-12-16 10:35|| 2025-12-16 10:35|| Front Page Top

12 But we still have the best weather.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2025-12-16 11:33|| 2025-12-16 11:33|| Front Page Top

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