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2023-07-11 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Poor Combat Medical Care blamed for heavy Russian losses in Ukrain

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Posted by Besoeker 2023-07-11 05:22|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [13 views ] Top

#1 a statistical concept popularized during the COVID-19 pandemic called excess mortality.

So, if they died of wounds then their care, not the war, is blamed?

In Absence of Honest Official Figures, Study Suggests 50,000 Russian War Dead in Ukraine So Far

Posted by Skidmark 2023-07-11 05:58|| 2023-07-11 05:58|| Front Page Top

#2 It's not the 40 years of Camel smoking that killed you, it was the lack of proper medical care and treatment.

US Government Logic-101. You took the class, now see the movie.

Posted by Besoeker 2023-07-11 07:36|| 2023-07-11 07:36|| Front Page Top

#3 From what I have seen from both sides and independent sources, it is the battlefield care that is so horrible for Russia. Western nations and Ukraine treat their soldiers quickly, have tourniquets, quick clot and pressure bandages and most are trained in combat lifesaver courses. The Russians don't. They may drag a wounded man back and not give aid other than a bandage or leave him there for a while before it is safe. If the Russian survives to get back to the medical units they actually stand a pretty decent chance of survival. But for many Russian wounded, it is that first golden hour is lost before they get treated.

Posted by DarthVader 2023-07-11 09:43|| 2023-07-11 09:43|| Front Page Top

#4 Said Russian military correspondent Aleksandr Sladkov:

The statistics of the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot be named right now, because the approaches to our positions are littered with the bodies of Ukrainian soldiers. No one evacuated them and did not consider them thoroughly.

Posted by badanov 2023-07-11 09:58|| 2023-07-11 09:58|| Front Page Top

#5 I don't recall my readings of Russian military history that the upper management was ever concerned about what happens to cannon fodder outside of not upsetting the peasants. Whether nihilism or socialism, they seem culturally conditioned to accept it.

Posted by Procopius2k 2023-07-11 11:35|| 2023-07-11 11:35|| Front Page Top

#6 #5 I don't recall my readings of Russian military history that the upper management was ever concerned about what happens to cannon fodder outside of not upsetting the peasants. Whether nihilism or socialism, they seem culturally conditioned to accept it.

Ukrainian use of their soldiers as cannon fodder is on NATO's tab.

Good luck explaining the difference.

Posted by badanov 2023-07-11 13:02|| 2023-07-11 13:02|| Front Page Top

#7 True patriot's duty -- who knew? --
Extends beyond death... "You're not through!
Propaganda requires
That when soldier expires
He be wearing opponent's tattoo."

"Lie down and be counted," or, Uncle Him wants YOU!

Posted by Zorba Hatfield9094 2023-07-11 13:28|| 2023-07-11 13:28|| Front Page Top

#8 Oh is Russia still losing this war? Haven't heard anything about those glorious victories being paid for by my taxes, my kids taxes and my grandkids future taxes in a long while...

Posted by Regular joe 2023-07-11 17:46|| 2023-07-11 17:46|| Front Page Top

#9 ^ the old timers said the same thing about Korea. Take a look at a nighttime satellite photo of the peninsula, someone did win. Just not instant gratification.

Posted by Procopius2k 2023-07-11 21:15|| 2023-07-11 21:15|| Front Page Top

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