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2021-09-07 China-Japan-Koreas

IT's ON! :: Nearly Two Dozen Chinese Military Aircraft Violate Taiwan's Airspace

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#1 Yeee Haaaa!!!! Let the Chinese GAMES BEGIN...

Posted by Slusock Ulomosing7989 2021-09-07 00:11|| 2021-09-07 00:11|| Front Page Top

#2 WWJD? What will Japan do?

Posted by Grunter 2021-09-07 03:04|| 2021-09-07 03:04|| Front Page Top

#3 Germany’s new ambassador to China & top Merkel adviser, Jan Hecker, dies suddenly just 2 weeks after taking up Beijing post

Posted by Injun Shereng5116 2021-09-07 09:23|| 2021-09-07 09:23|| Front Page Top

#4 China sends 19 nuclear bombers and fighter jets into Taiwan’s airspace for ‘invasion’ war games in Beijing's latest show of force

Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-07 09:38|| 2021-09-07 09:38|| Front Page Top

#5 You know all that state of the art weaponry you been pushing to sell to Taiwan? Might want to re-think that.

Posted by ed in texas 2021-09-07 10:26|| 2021-09-07 10:26|| Front Page Top

#6 Might want to ~~re-think that.~~ hurry.

Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-07 11:51|| 2021-09-07 11:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Didn't Japan and Taiwan/Taipei/Formosa just sign an mutual defense agreement for just this purpose?

Posted by Unosh Hupinelet8756 2021-09-07 11:54|| 2021-09-07 11:54|| Front Page Top

#8 Aren't most of China exports go through Taiwan?
Wouldn't a war disrupt this?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-07 11:55|| 2021-09-07 11:55|| Front Page Top

#9 /\ Not if the Taiwanese ports were at the very top of the targeting or invasion lists. Excellent observation however, excellent indeed. Acorn and blind sow metaphor applies.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-09-07 12:09|| 2021-09-07 12:09|| Front Page Top

#10 But why now? You don't knock over the chess board if you're winning the game.

Posted by Matt 2021-09-07 12:23|| 2021-09-07 12:23|| Front Page Top

#11 /\ Excellent point and question. The Biden window of opportunity will not always remain open.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-09-07 12:26|| 2021-09-07 12:26|| Front Page Top

#12 If they buzz instead of attack, they might be waiting to see how Joe responds.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2021-09-07 13:06|| 2021-09-07 13:06|| Front Page Top

#13 The size of the force tells you a lot about what is coming. Probing the ADIZ (Air Defense Interdiction Zone or whatever is now used) will not get a good systems signature when it is obvious it is only a probe, OPSEC to keep mainforce capabilities offline is normal. But if you put a bunch of sorties in the air, many of some size, then send a capable force that could have tactical WMD, you have to up the capabilities, warming up mainforce elements and offering the systems signatures for target mapping. Even if the systems are mobile, they are now defined and other assets that have 24/7 overwatch from the very high ground can now map wherever you send them. This seems to be much more serious as the credibility of the Biden Doctrine is now risible.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2021-09-07 13:50|| 2021-09-07 13:50|| Front Page Top

#14 /\ Plausible enough. Perhaps they're hoping that a devastating initial strike would be followed up by a speedy capitulation, thus making any external response impossible.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-09-07 15:20|| 2021-09-07 15:20|| Front Page Top

#15 #9 Jy Vra Vir Moeilikheid!

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-09-07 15:40|| 2021-09-07 15:40|| Front Page Top

#16 The problem with China going fully kinetic is that what the CCP wants is not the piece of dirt we call Taiwan, but the crown jewels of the Taiwanese economy, intact. For example, Taiwan Semi has the largest chip foundry in the known universe, and whoever controls it can strangle a lot of nations -- like us-- who depend on Taiwan Semi's chips. So if the CCP conquers Taiwan but destroys Taiwan Semi in the process, or scatters Taiwan Semi's hyper-skilled workers, the CCP gets bragging rights but misses the main objective. The CCP strategy has to be to coerce Taiwan into surrender by means short of all-out war. If I were Taiwan, I'd have every factory ready to blow, and make sure the CCP knows it.

Posted by Matt 2021-09-07 15:51|| 2021-09-07 15:51|| Front Page Top

#17 ^ I recall that before the October War, the Egyptians would practice running up to the Suez as a 'training' operation for bridging. When the Israelis got compliant, the stage was set for the real jump.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-09-07 15:52|| 2021-09-07 15:52|| Front Page Top

#18 Israel spends more money on defense than Taiwan both in % and absolute terms, and all it's worried about is a bunch of Arabs. The Taiwanese haven't been serious about defense for decades, ever since their defense budget crashed even as its Chinese counterpart skyrocketed. Check out this chart, which is plotted in 1992 constant dollars (i.e. adjusted for inflation):

They're obviously well-prepared - to fight it out to the last dead American.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2021-09-07 17:20|| 2021-09-07 17:20|| Front Page Top

#19 Who will be next. Should they crumble China will repeat as often as they think they can get away with it. China is always a bad neighbor. Obama-Biden red lines that move.

Posted by Dale 2021-09-07 17:55|| 2021-09-07 17:55|| Front Page Top

#20 But if you put a bunch of sorties in the air, many of some size, then send a capable force that could have tactical WMD, you have to up the capabilities, warming up mainforce elements and offering the systems signatures for target mapping.

It's also a good range test.
If the Chinese can't passively see the Taiwan 19 bombers from their AWACS then the RAM is smooth.

Posted by Skidmark 2021-09-07 18:28|| 2021-09-07 18:28|| Front Page Top

#21 I'm sure Joe will respond with some mumbling ass speech about , hell who knows?

Posted by Chris 2021-09-07 20:30|| 2021-09-07 20:30|| Front Page Top

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