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2017-08-31 -Short Attention Span Theater-

2 explosions, black smoke reported at chemical plant outside Houston

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Posted by Skidmark 2017-08-31 02:51|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 Fire insurance may cover losses that flood insurance doesn't. Way, way back during Hurricane Agnes, a family owned manufacturing plant were very lucky to have a fire break out during the flood. They were the only ones in the industrial block to get insurance relief.

Posted by Capsu78 2017-08-31 09:32|| 2017-08-31 09:32|| Front Page Top

#2 This will be a case study for years to come regarding electrical infrastructure and backup power generation for such facilities in areas potentially affected by hurricanes and flooding.

The lawyers will be sniffing around soon, if they're not already.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2017-08-31 10:30|| 2017-08-31 10:30|| Front Page Top

#3 I would have thought the Japan nuke crisis would have changed disaster prep thinking but no. Cost/benefit analysis still includes loss insurance as a factor. Different budget line items for operations vs. infrastructure.

Posted by Skidmark 2017-08-31 11:05|| 2017-08-31 11:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Agreed, Skid.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2017-08-31 11:13|| 2017-08-31 11:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Organic peroxides, ok..not making light of it, but was afraid we were talking chlorine or something. Controlled release, let it burn, take pictures, watch shep pee his shoe.

Posted by swksvolFF 2017-08-31 11:20|| 2017-08-31 11:20|| Front Page Top

#6 I would have thought the Japan nuke crisis would have changed disaster prep thinking but no. Disaster prep thinking is traditionally ignored. I remember reading about the ancient Japanese language monuments along the tsunami-prone coastline that warned against building anything valuable in that territory - naturally these were ignored by modern Japanese.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2017-08-31 14:08|| 2017-08-31 14:08|| Front Page Top

#7 Chemical plants have their own electricity generating systems. They are not usually subject to power outages.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2017-08-31 16:40|| 2017-08-31 16:40|| Front Page Top

#8 ...watch shep pee his shoe.

I often wonder why FOX doesn't take this over the top drama queen (who should just come out of the closet) off the air in these situations when they know he's gonna blow a gasket.

Posted by Raj 2017-08-31 18:39|| 2017-08-31 18:39|| Front Page Top

#9 As I recall a "per" oxide has 2 oxygen molecules. That makes it a toxic, corrosive cloud which will facilitate the combustion of most anything in its path. What doesn't explode gets etched.

Posted by Skidmark 2017-08-31 19:00|| 2017-08-31 19:00|| Front Page Top

#10 That's true for the large ones, Deacon. In this case, the utility power delivery, on-site normal power substation and both large emergency generators failed due to flooding.

We try to talk 'critical facilities' in areas prone to tropical storms and/or flooding into raising their emergency systems and generators to at least thirty feet above the average site grade elevation.

Whether the facility does that or not is usually driven by cost. Ultimate cost in doing so would have been cheaper in this particular case as it appears that this facility left their essential systems at grade level. Sorry Raj, but I'm sure it was the bean counters that drove the decision.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2017-08-31 20:26|| 2017-08-31 20:26|| Front Page Top

#11 #8 - He IS out of the closet. It's not that he's gay, right, Lindsey? It's that he's such a virtue-signalling drama queen

Posted by Frank G 2017-08-31 20:35|| 2017-08-31 20:35|| Front Page Top

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