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2011-09-12 Britain
Police Bust Slavery Ring North Of London, England
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Posted by Anonymoose 2011-09-12 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11128 views ]  Top

#1 Irish travellers? Nice.
Posted by gromky 2011-09-12 00:42||   2011-09-12 00:42|| Front Page Top

#2 My British-to-English translations aren't the best, but I think "caravan" means "mobile home" and "traveller" means "worthless Irish criminal who lives out of their car in a govt-paid trailer park".
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2011-09-12 01:07||   2011-09-12 01:07|| Front Page Top

#3 Travellers is the new pc term for what we used to call Gypsies.

As a kid in England we were terrified of them, because of stories they kidnapped children.

I lived next to a large area of common land that they use camp on. So saw them all the time.
Posted by phil_b 2011-09-12 02:00||   2011-09-12 02:00|| Front Page Top

#4 Phil, so in reality they don't kidnap children -- just adults. Right?
Ha ha. <== (irony)
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2011-09-12 02:14||   2011-09-12 02:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Pity the English politicians haven't the balls to erect gallows for these animals.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2011-09-12 11:06||   2011-09-12 11:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Got a family of Brits with us at present and their reactions are enlightening.

Ho hum, what else would you expect.


This seems to be the standard Brit response to everything these days (same response to Greece failure). Total apathy and a we can't do anything about anything ennui.
Posted by AlanC 2011-09-12 11:26||   2011-09-12 11:26|| Front Page Top

#7 Ah, Roadies.

I bet the questioning is taking a while. Nobody can understand a word they say.
Posted by Guillibaldo Hatrack1304 2011-09-12 12:15||   2011-09-12 12:15|| Front Page Top

#8 Not roadies, pikies!
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-09-12 12:45||   2011-09-12 12:45|| Front Page Top

#9 When I used to drive by that way I would offer a lift if I saw people walking along the road.

On one occasion, I was talking with a couple of lads about a paving job gone wrong where they were forced to work late, so I asked whether they had ambitions to take on their own projects once they knew what they were doing. They told me that the guy that "looks after" them would kill them.

I reminded them that it says in the song that "Britons never shall be slaves" and that they didnt owe anybody a living, let alone somebody who left them to walk 10 miles in the dark on a winter night.

They both had a kind of crushed look about them & I felt sorry for them, but wary at the same time. It would be nice to think that I had helped them away from that hellish place, but they probably went straight back.

As an itinerant myself who has stayed in several places less than a mile from there with few problems, I suppose you just learn to avoid certain areas - same as in any country. There are a couple of pikey sites in Slapton. Friends of mine who have houses nearby are driven nuts by the level of criminality that is tolerated. As well as the theft, arson, vandalism & violence that goes on, "Traveller" kids make up around 75% of the intake in some of the local lower schools.

The truly shocking part is that it took 28 people to complain to the police (from the same site, if the BBC is to be believed), 200 police & a helicopter to sort this out. Not that it necessarily will be sorted, as 9 out of 15 have refused to cooperate with the police already.

At the same time, some of the most law abiding travelling communities are pursued relentlessly by the authorities. I am forced to move outside the parish boundaries (yes - as per the poor laws) every two weeks; British Waterways are presently in the course of taking out an injunction against me for not doing so, even though I have always paid the considerable license fees. (did you know that you need a license for a kayak in the UK?). The legal bill for the last guy they took to court came to around £90,000...

You can see the names of the folks on the Billington caravan site here:

You can find a copy of the recent judgement against disabled health care worker & Itinerant boater Paul Davies here
As for me, life on the move isnt getting any easier - Mrs Ackbar is due to drop our first (girl) any minute...
Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2011-09-12 13:51||   2011-09-12 13:51|| Front Page Top

#10 Human slavery should be punishable by death.
Posted by rjschwarz 2011-09-12 14:57||   2011-09-12 14:57|| Front Page Top

#11 50% Income tax on income isn't that much different from 3 day a week slavery in the scheme of things....
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-09-12 15:03||   2011-09-12 15:03|| Front Page Top

#12 You can move to areas with a different income tax rate, thats not possible for a slave.
Posted by rjschwarz 2011-09-12 15:47||   2011-09-12 15:47|| Front Page Top

#13 By that score Bright Pebbles - one might saw having to pay Union Dues (or not be allowed to ply your trade) is a type of slavery (perhaps of a couple hours a week).
Posted by CrazyFool 2011-09-12 16:31||   2011-09-12 16:31|| Front Page Top

#14 Yes, it's Hyperbole but it's not too off the wall way of seeing Income taxes (and other economically damaging rules on free exchange).
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-09-12 18:32||   2011-09-12 18:32|| Front Page Top

#15 Delingpole says we should not be too quick to judge, probably a "cultural thing" Just ask Vanessa Redgrave.
Posted by tipper 2011-09-12 19:08||   2011-09-12 19:08|| Front Page Top

#16 In Ireland they called them Knackers. Many would go on the dole in the Republic and in Northern Ireland. Commute periodically across the border between N and S to double dip.

Scooter McGrooter: you're right. Caravans are travel trailers.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2011-09-12 19:55||   2011-09-12 19:55|| Front Page Top

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