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2011-06-25 Caribbean-Latin America

Another Murder Linked to US Gunwalker Case

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Posted by Steve White 2011-06-25 15:13|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 I believe Darrell Issa (R-firmgriponHoldersballs) is in Mexico investigating right now?

Posted by Frank G 2011-06-25 15:44|| 2011-06-25 15:44|| Front Page Top

#2 Thanks for the call. How about next time not flooding a neighboring country with guns?

How about not flooding a neighboring country with drugs and illegal aliens? Mexican oligarchy getting nervous? Good.

Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-06-25 15:57|| 2011-06-25 15:57|| Front Page Top

#3 Good point but sending guns to Messico doesn't help.

Posted by Steve White 2011-06-25 16:42|| 2011-06-25 16:42|| Front Page Top

#4 I'm convinced the Fast and Furious debacle was geared strictly by the gun-grabbers in the US to produce all those "US guns involved in cartel crimes" they were so vociferously denouncing without actual data. The ATF/DOJ/WH/DOS didn't care about the impact on Mexico nor on US agents caught in the return path. That's why I'm not willing to allow the political system to resolve this. It's a crime and should be treated as such. I want Holder and his minions indicted, tried, and convicted. Tear this cabal out by the roots

Posted by Frank G 2011-06-25 16:56|| 2011-06-25 16:56|| Front Page Top

#5 It was Bush's fault. Oh, it happened in 2009. Nevermind.

Acting ATF Director Ken Melman does not want to be a resign and fall on his sword. He want's to testify. Whether he will say anything remains to be seen.

Beanbag guns were what Agent Terry and his fellow squad members were armed with when they encountered a group of illegals armed with assault rifles.

To arm Agent Terry and his fellow squad members with bean bags is criminal. What kind of chicken-$hit rules of engagement are these? It got Agent Terry murdered. It got other people murdered. What the hell did these higher-up dimwits in the WH/DOJ/BATF think they were doing? They shouldn't be allowed anywhere near government and policy-making. They are not qualified to be dog catcher. Clean house in 2012 if not sooner. I hope Issa skewers all of them. Time to call in the special prosecutor.

Posted by JohnQC 2011-06-25 17:11|| 2011-06-25 17:11|| Front Page Top

#6 FrankG, glad to see you included DOS -- it's not getting much attention, but State had to be involved.

International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) is a set of United States government regulations that control the export and import of defense-related articles and services on the United States Munitions List (USML). These regulations implement the provisions of the Arms Export Control Act (AECA), and are described in Title 22 (Foreign Relations), Chapter I (Department of State), Subchapter M of the Code of Federal Regulations. The Department of State interprets and enforces ITAR. Its goal is to safeguard U.S. national security and further U.S. foreign policy objectives.

Under ITAR, a US person who wants to export USML items to a foreign person must obtain authorization from the U.S. Department of State before the export can take place. -- Wikipedia.

More -- This comment comes from a retired fellow who knows this topic cold.

Based on OFAC requirements (Department of Treasury' Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) on uncover licenses for the U. S. Customs Service Office of Investigation operation), I believe DOJ/ATF would have briefed the State Department and received its permission to proceed.

As such there exists a file with juicy memos about the operation because it is dealing with the foreign policy of the United States i.e. the Arms Export Control Act-ITAR.

One other point, given the sensitivity and covert nature of this operation and the fact that it involves a foreign country, aspects of it were almost certainly "classified." One result would be that much of the attendant documentation would be classified. Have the congressional been granted access to the "good stuff"?

The US Embassy in Mexico City almost certainly was aware of this operation, or should have been had normal protocols been followed.

These are excerpts from here, so far, one of two sources that I've found that seems to have the best explanation of what is and isn't happening info. Well sourced.

Posted by Sherry 2011-06-25 17:23|| 2011-06-25 17:23|| Front Page Top

#7 If nothing else, DOS is implicated by incompetence in being shit on by the other parties. I don't buy it. I think Hillary and Koh, et al, signed off on this

Posted by Frank G 2011-06-25 18:29|| 2011-06-25 18:29|| Front Page Top

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