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2009-04-25 Home Front: Culture Wars
Senator John Kerry - Being A Pig Again By Attacking Veterans
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Posted by Anonymoose 2009-04-25 00:20|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11128 views ]  Top

#1 The only folks who overlook wounds sustained by men in the field defending the nation are usually too liberal to give a f*ck unless they can make an exhibition of it.
Posted by badanov 2009-04-25 03:04|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2009-04-25 03:04|| Front Page Top

#2 To be a "friend [of Kerry's] in the veteran community" means you are 1) a slacker, 2) a trembling idiot, and/or 3) a phony soldier like the good Senator.
Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back!  2009-04-25 07:04||   2009-04-25 07:04|| Front Page Top

#3 The position is unpaid, though documents say that investors, including the campaign, could get a 120 percent return on their investment.

This treasonous douche is going to dump 300k of his senate re-election campaigns money into it looking for 120% return. He doesn't give a shit about veterans and never has, but there is money to be made.
He should start an effete scumbag investment club.
Posted by NCMike 2009-04-25 07:44||   2009-04-25 07:44|| Front Page Top

#4 White Mountain Films George Butler. "Continuing his activities in the peace movement, in 1971 Mr. Butler co-edited, (with David Thorne and US Senator John Kerry) The New Soldier, a highly praised book about the Vietnam Veterans Against War (VVAW)." Recently, Butler completed a feature documentary about longtime friend John Kerry and his experiences with the Vietnam War and Peace Movement. Going Upriver: The Long War of John Kerry Hmmmmnnn, I wonder just what kind of film is going to come out of White Mountain Films...a smear job?

"Kerry, who came to prominence years ago after serving in the Vietnam and criticizing the conflict, was asked to join the project by veterans, said his spokeswoman Whitney Smith."

Hard to image that veterans are much interested in this project.

Kerry is checking ethics? Never bothered him before.
Posted by JohnQC 2009-04-25 09:47||   2009-04-25 09:47|| Front Page Top

#5 "men and women in the field defending the nation are usually too liberal to give a f*ck unless they can make an exhibition of it."

I am a sentinel watching for this type of character sketch against our soldiers. It gives me great pleasure to be able to remind you that the Armed Forces are not made up of homologous political droids. You could say they are a diverse group ethnically and politically as well.

In our present, imperfectly postmodern world, speaking ill of a soldier's political affiliation creates an imbroglio, a complicated and embarassing state of affairs. Talking ill of our men and women in uniform? I don't see how this can lead to any good, especially when the enemies dont stop to ask if they are dems or repubs before shooting at them.

Do we know what the percentage breakdown of Dems VS. Pubs are in the different branches? Many say Republican majority. Many are Moderate. Many are Democrats. A paltry number care during important moments.

I, for one, a female who served in the Army honorably for 5 years, noticed that a lot of my coworkers chose not to vote in elections, and were very moderate. Many I worked with and spoke with every day for years weren't beatifically praising GWB or Obama or any recent president. Some were raging Republicans, some were raging Democrats.

The important thing was we worked together as a team, and served. People serve to protect the American Dream, the dreams our stuff is made of.

If ONLY Washington D.C. could be MORE LIKE the Army, we would have bi-partisanship in politics. Remember, the enemies tend to disregard your political party when they're shooting at you. They look at the flag on your shoulder and then decide who you are based on what they see.

A noticeable penchant of many enlisted soldiers is to stay out of politics, and political debates. They preferred to keep their politics out of the mix, serve, protect our nation, do their jobs honorably, and not let a grievence with a POTUS cloud their days.

Another factor that makes me pause before impugning liberals in the service is the fact that many of them I served with serve with honor, despite harsh dastardly caitiffs in their camp criticising them from behind the protection of the liberal pacifistic shield.

Many liberal soldiers endure dastardly prejudice from their liberal spouses, significant others, families and communities who in the misguided liberal vein think the Armed Forces are baby killers. In that sense, liberal soldier endure less support when they swim against these tides. So again, I dont want to impugn their service records.

As for Kerry, I'm neither going to defend or impugn him. Frankly, I wish he'd retire and go drink a Maitai somewhere.

So give them their political gaffes, but remember politics don't stop the bullets.
Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-25 09:54||   2009-04-25 09:54|| Front Page Top

#6 Nicely said, GT, though I'd point out that there are liberals of all stripes, just as conservatives. Some are deeply patriotic and decent, and a few, unfortunately, have other ideas.
Posted by Steve White 2009-04-25 10:22||   2009-04-25 10:22|| Front Page Top

#7 I wonder if Sen. Ketchup consulted the 'ethics' committee before calling the troops stupid, baby killing, knuckle dragging morons who weren't 'smart' enough to cut and run -- as he did.
Posted by Zorba Craising6734 2009-04-25 10:27||   2009-04-25 10:27|| Front Page Top

#8 ( The only folks who overlook wounds sustained by ) "men and women in the field defending the nation are usually too liberal to give a f*ck unless they can make an exhibition of it."

The part you left off that quote is the subject of the sentence, GirlThursday. Deleting it completely changes the meaning of what badanov said. Try this:
The only folks who overlook wounded soldiers are usually too liberal to give a f*ck unless they can make an exhibition of it.
Posted by SteveS 2009-04-25 10:49||   2009-04-25 10:49|| Front Page Top

#9 There are a few who spoil it for the many, even in uniform. Among the most despised character is the careerist who has neither honor or integrity. He/she is the one who's goal is self and by extension career promotion. Good soldiers can see through the facade of such a creature in short order. Everyone and everything is expendable for their goal. Unfortunately, most of the command structure is more interested in not rocking the boat and as long as things meet the usual inspection and operational standards they're happy. It's the uniform version of too much of our political class and our electorate. Messieurs Kerry and Murtha would well fit the character.
Posted by Procopius2k 2009-04-25 10:59||   2009-04-25 10:59|| Front Page Top

#10 And how about this Steve S., I took the liberty of adding men and women, the word women was the part of Badanov's statement left out completely. Its men AND women in uniform in the field in 2009. You miss my point completely. My point is politics should not warp the Armed forces operations. Period. As for what Kerry does, everyone sees he's just jumping on the Vet bandwagon looking for validation and perhaps money.
Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-25 11:17||   2009-04-25 11:17|| Front Page Top

#11 The "folks" to which badanov was referring are not our troops, but rather the civilian libtards who only make a show of support when they see an opportunity for profit.

At least that's how I interpreted his comment.
Posted by Zorba Craising6734 2009-04-25 11:23||   2009-04-25 11:23|| Front Page Top

#12 Just what I need. An element parsing my meaning.

Way to miss my point.

I guess this is one of the those times to STFU. Not everyone gets the message in time, but at least now you have the time to wipe the spittle off your chin as you try to figure out what I meant.
Posted by badanov 2009-04-25 11:32|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2009-04-25 11:32|| Front Page Top

#13 Well, then next time please try less profanity, more substance, and some actual thought and people will get your point. Im done defending myself against people such yourself, Badanov.
Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-25 11:38||   2009-04-25 11:38|| Front Page Top

#14 Okay, okay, let's keep it clean here, we're all friends.

AoS.
Posted by Steve White 2009-04-25 12:02||   2009-04-25 12:02|| Front Page Top

#15 And how about this Steve S., I took the liberty of adding men and women, the word women was the part of Badanov's statement left out completely. Its men AND women in uniform in the field in 2009. You miss my point completely.

I didn't miss your point at all. And it was a fine rant. I was taking issue with you chopping up a quote and using that as a lead-in to an argument. I see that sort of selective quoting way to often, both in the MSM and on blogs and it bugs me.
Posted by SteveS 2009-04-25 12:07||   2009-04-25 12:07|| Front Page Top

#16 I'd like to kick John Kerry's ass.
Posted by bman 2009-04-25 12:09||   2009-04-25 12:09|| Front Page Top

#17 My bad. Sorry.
Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-25 12:12||   2009-04-25 12:12|| Front Page Top

#18 Im new to this blog thing, I didnt have time when I was in the military. Please excuse my faux pas.
Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-25 12:18||   2009-04-25 12:18|| Front Page Top

#19 I'd like to kick John Kerry's ass.

My nephew (a S.E.A.L.) sez, "Get in line".
Posted by Zorba Craising6734 2009-04-25 12:24||   2009-04-25 12:24|| Front Page Top

#20 "remember politics don't stop the bullets."

For a moment I misread that as "Politicians stop bullets".

Make of that whatever you want.
Posted by OldSpook 2009-04-25 12:33||   2009-04-25 12:33|| Front Page Top

#21 We've all done it, GirlThursday dear. Just as an aside, I seem to recall that in the 2004 election those in our armed forces who voted divided about 25% Democrat, 75% Republican. Which had no impact on their performance after the votes were counted, that I was aware of... or before, or during.

Back on topic: did the producer's previous film, about the honourable senator himself, make a profit? How much had the senator invested in that vanity project? What does the producer base profit projections for the current project, other than wishful thinking? Veteran's groups know exactly what the honourable senator is, and aren't likely to get a copy to watch together, likewise veterans' health advocates. Who is the target consumer, how many of them will plump for the price of a ticket, and how many screens will the production be able to command?

No doubt there are Rantburgers with enough experience in the areas concerned to come up with better questions, but these will do for a start.
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2009-04-25 12:33||   2009-04-25 12:33|| Front Page Top

#22 It was a good first rant, GirlThursday. You'll do fine here, and in fact you've made a very good start overall -- I've been making a point of checking out your posts. :-) And really, if you're feeling cranky one day, check out how many times I've had to apologise here for going off on something without reading it quite closely enough. If you weren't feeling by the tenth one, then the 2oth, or 30th, or...
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2009-04-25 12:40||   2009-04-25 12:40|| Front Page Top

#23 The Military Times regularly conducts a poll of service members political affiliations. Recent results:

1) 68% McCain, 23% Obama. 80% of black personnel for Obama
2) 69% W. Bush, 16% Kerry.
3) 2004 poll 60% Republicans, 2006 poll 46% Republican.
4) 1996 poll 70% officers Republican, 9% Democrat.

Make of this what you will.
Posted by Anonymoose 2009-04-25 12:55||   2009-04-25 12:55|| Front Page Top

#24 Thanks. And thanks TW.
Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-25 13:02||   2009-04-25 13:02|| Front Page Top

#25 Well, then next time please try less profanity, more substance, and some actual thought and people will get your point. Im done defending myself against people such yourself, Badanov.

Admit it: You intended to twist my meaning into something I didn't write to press an issue that had little to do with the issue at hand.

You want to mask it by first going off into a tangent and then all of a sudden profanity , self censored was, is now the issue with you?

You have a personal problem with me, and I don't care if you admit that. But what I suggest you better do in the future is read what I write and if you have a problem in interpreting and in how I express myself, ask and you will be answered.

As it is, your responses, both the original and subsequent ones, were just dumb and completely lacking in logic (you seem to tout yourself as having) as it could be applied to the subject at hand.

You want to respond to this, do so, but this time make damn certain you engage what I originally wrote, don't let your personal opinion of it get in the way.
Posted by badanov 2009-04-25 13:21|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2009-04-25 13:21|| Front Page Top

#26 "Admit it: You intended to twist my meaning into something I didn't write to press an issue that had little to do with the issue at hand."

I already admitted it and apologized. My opinions are just like the orifice they resemble that everyone has sometimes. Can we move past this please?
Posted by GirlThursday 2009-04-25 14:06||   2009-04-25 14:06|| Front Page Top

#27 GT you did learn the one thing I found evident when I was active, when I was civilian as well (Hi Balad & Bargram Fobbits!) - if you are a soldier few if any politicians are genuinely your friends.
Posted by OldSpook 2009-04-25 15:41||   2009-04-25 15:41|| Front Page Top

#28 Moose I would have guessed somewhere around those numbers. But for the most part we don't wear are politics on our uniform. If you did you would prejudice good order. If I gave someone a command I wanted them to follow it and not question it based on my percieved politics.
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2009-04-25 16:01||   2009-04-25 16:01|| Front Page Top

#29 I have a particular problem with Kerry. He got to Cam Ranh a couple months after I left. It was considered nice duty. I think his original intention was to sign up for coastal patrol.

I ran into a few officers (and NCOs, for that matter) like him in my career. It's my opinion that he was in Vietnam to get his ticket punched so he could make a career for himself. And I think that once he found himself in a combat situation he set about getting nicked so he could get out of Dodge as quick as he could before something serious happened. I knew more than one person who did just that. They weren't respected one little bit, though they're probably riding their Purple Hearts to this day.

I knew one guy who tracked the time he spent flying form Saigon to Danang to pick up personnel records so he could get an air medal.

Kerry's story about his trip to Monkey Mountain, at Danang, is pure bullshit. I made the same trip at about the same time. He saw devastation, dead kids lying by the side of the road. I saw Danang and its immediate environs, and was propositioned by a hooker who was so cross-eyed she consistently turned her head in the wrong direction when somebody spoke to her.

Fake.

Fake.

Fake.

And his lucky hat, too.
Posted by Fred 2009-04-25 17:08||   2009-04-25 17:08|| Front Page Top

#30 and was propositioned by a hooker who was so cross-eyed she consistently turned her head in the wrong direction when somebody spoke to her.

gee thanks, Fred. I'll deduct the keyboard replacement cost from my usual paypal allotment. Or not. That's what I get for drinking while reading. Dammit
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-04-25 17:20||   2009-04-25 17:20|| Front Page Top

#31 If I start CAPLOCKing like JOE M. You'll knoW why
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2009-04-25 17:22||   2009-04-25 17:22|| Front Page Top

#32 and was propositioned by a hooker who was so cross-eyed she consistently turned her head in the wrong direction when somebody spoke to her.

Will you please finish your story. Was her sister prone to seizures?
Posted by Ebberelet Wittlesbach9953 2009-04-25 18:46||   2009-04-25 18:46|| Front Page Top

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