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2008-01-14 Home Front: WoT

Military deaths under Bush half of amount under Clinton

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Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2008-01-14 14:55|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 Powerline commented about that 'issue' before.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-01-14 17:21|| 2008-01-14 17:21|| Front Page Top

#2 Alas, correct figures here:

http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/CASUALTY/Death_Rates.pdf

Posted by Big Glereque4366 2008-01-14 18:44|| 2008-01-14 18:44|| Front Page Top

#3 And this is not just a recent phenomenon. Here are the numbers of deaths of US Navy officers during World War 2 due to combat and aviation accidents:

Combat - 4025
Aviation accidents - 4142

Link: http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/ww2_statistics.htm

It's a dangerous business. We should remember that always.

Posted by Bugs Angaiger7437 2008-01-14 18:47|| 2008-01-14 18:47|| Front Page Top

#4 How is this possible? Does this include natural deaths? Gulf War Syndrome?

I don't remember hearing many deaths during Clinton's time that I was aware of?

Posted by Spung the Slender9594 2008-01-14 20:30|| 2008-01-14 20:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Oh I see, during Clinton's time there were a lot more accidents and suicides it seems.

Posted by Spung the Slender9594 2008-01-14 20:32|| 2008-01-14 20:32|| Front Page Top

#6 And a lot more military, on average. Per capita figures might be helpful.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-01-14 20:56|| 2008-01-14 20:56|| Front Page Top

#7 There are any number of ways to analyze these stats.

Does a wartime footing increase attention and focus, thus decreasing the accident rate? Has the military studied, learned and improved in relation to prior accidents? Did the events leading to, and aftermath of, accidental casualties achieve greater results, improved safety/tactics/systems further reducing combat deaths? Are these items measurable, or incomparable with one another?

Posted by Hyperbolic Idiot Detection Service 2008-01-14 22:19|| 2008-01-14 22:19|| Front Page Top

#8 US Army
1990 - 746,220
1995 - 521,036
2000 - 471,633

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-01-14 22:49|| 2008-01-14 22:49|| Front Page Top

#9 Oh I see, during Clinton's time there were a lot more accidents..

Funny how that happens when you gut the funding for training and maintenance. People are less skilled in dealing with the hazardous aspects of the job and the equipment tends to break down faster without things like spare parts. There's a corollary between free time created by the preceding and the ability to fill it with doing stupid stuff during off duty hours.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-01-14 22:59|| 2008-01-14 22:59|| Front Page Top

#10 I think a lot of the drop in accidental death rates is due to safer airplanes and fewer of them. If I remember correctly, in the past a carrier pilot stood only a 50% chance of surviving 20 years.

Posted by ed 2008-01-14 23:04|| 2008-01-14 23:04|| Front Page Top

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