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2008-09-14 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by lotp 2008-09-14 12:22|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 What if it's not a dog? What if it's a cat?

What if it's remembered that whining got you to open the door and let her out at night _once_ back in 1994, and by gum she's not going to stop trying now for hours at a time, reward or not...

(And no, I'm not joking. Remember that partial reinforcement is a more powerful behavior control mechanism than anything else, especially for humans. The fact that people can make money by owning slot machines should be warning enough to us.)

Also, we're not paying attention enough to how the propaganda machines worked in other countries.

_Everyone_ knew the press was lying to them there. And everyone rejected 70% of what the press was saying. And thought they were clever, while they accepted the 30% or so 'payload' the government wanted them to. It was within the design parameters of the propaganda program.

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2008-09-14 13:10|| 2008-09-14 13:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Operant conditioning works on cats too AS. The trick is to figure out what rewards them. I've used broiled salmon with cats who don't get their dinner until after our training session. ;-)

Yes, partial reinforcement is incredibly powerful. That's why it's so important that any punishment regime be really consistent and immediate and credible. Anything less will simply reinforce them to keep doing what they're used to doing.

The key, I think, is to keep the focus on the media. Educate the audience if you can, but keep that rolled up newspaper close to hand, keep a careful watch on what they do and be ready to put them down HARD when they pull crap.

Do it again and DIE. A motto to embrace this election season wrt the media IMO. It's not going to be easy, it will require the commitment of a lot of people. But I'm beginning to sense that many of us have reached that same line in the sand with the treatment of Sarah Palin and her kids.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-14 13:30|| 2008-09-14 13:30|| Front Page Top

#3 When I was a kid, my dog Harry (bless his soul) used to love TCBY yogurt. Say the letters and he would go bonkers. He would run to the door and jump and yelp and otherwise carry on. Knowing this, we only said it when we were going to pick some up and bring it home - giving him his own cup of strawberry flavored.

On one of these occasions, I put him in the car, then for some reason I don't remember any longer, we had to cancel that trip. When I tried ot get him out of the car, he would not come when called, so I reached in to take him out of the car and he bit me. The little bastard actually got blood through my jean jacket. At which point I did what any red blooded young male would do to re-establish dominance. I grabbed him by the color and in one move, yanked him out of the car and flung his misbedavin' ass across the driveway. He never bit me again.

The media has long ago stopped challenging the people for alpha status and assumed it.

Make no mistake ladies and gentlemen, this dog has bitten us. It's time to grab it's collar and fling it's misbehavin' ass in the direction of that tree over there.

Posted by Mike N. 2008-09-14 14:12|| 2008-09-14 14:12|| Front Page Top

#4 Once long ago I owned a horse, he kicked me once, I hauled off and kicked him as hard as I could in the belly.

He never even tried to kick me again, several times I saw him cock his hind leg, think it over and set the leg down.

Whe He came to live with us he wouldn't come when called, the lady I got him from said he never obeyed, so I put some small apples in my pocket and called, he didn't come so I ate the apple, he saw that.
Next time he came when called and got his apple I never had another time he didn't come when called If he got an apple or not.
(He got a plenty)

I don't know if that would be called posiitive, or negative, but it worked.

Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim 2008-09-14 15:07|| 2008-09-14 15:07|| Front Page Top

#5 A really good teaching moment is when repeatedly disobedient members of the media are dragged kicking and screaming to the ~~Vet~~ Stock Market for euthanasia. Make sure the others see, and learn (as much as their little brains are capable)

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-09-14 15:23|| 2008-09-14 15:23|| Front Page Top

#6 I don't think we will need to put the media down as rabies is a fatal disease. The only problem is that it will infect so many people before it goes..

Besides, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Best to rely on your new dog Internet to help alert you whenever the rabid one draws near. I would say don't feed it, but that doesn't seem to help as it is as crazy as an angry meth junkie on a rampage. It seems to keep on going even though most people quit feeding it some time a ago.

Posted by Betty Grating2215 2008-09-14 15:52|| 2008-09-14 15:52|| Front Page Top

#7 Besides, you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

You can, actually. But I'm not so sure the media is that smart or flexible. ;-(

Posted by lotp 2008-09-14 16:14|| 2008-09-14 16:14|| Front Page Top

#8 The MSM is dying. They will have nowhere near this influence next time. Things are on internet time now and MSM can't keep up.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-14 16:18|| 2008-09-14 16:18|| Front Page Top

#9 Why the heck should we 'retrain' the media? Its been lying to us for over 40 years (see Tet Offensive and Walter Chronkite).

In my opinion the existing media needs to die off (if not be killed off) right down to the 'schools of journalism' to the top of the New York Times and CNN. Its unreliable, biased, and simply cannot ever be trusted again.

In its place we need a 'new media' and new type of journalism which operating much the way the old stype 'reporters' worked - giving hard news and not opinion.

Posted by CrazyFool 2008-09-14 16:32|| 2008-09-14 16:32|| Front Page Top

#10 #7 Besides, you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

You can, actually. But I'm not so sure the media is that smart or flexible. ;-(

you'd be surprised what a stun gun could do

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-09-14 17:21|| 2008-09-14 17:21|| Front Page Top

#11 Stun gun? - LOL Hire Gov Sarah's ex-brother-in-law? Since he is out of work....

Posted by BigEd 2008-09-14 20:12|| 2008-09-14 20:12|| Front Page Top

#12 You might point out to the breeders [the advertisers] that their product isn't selling anymore because of all the inbreeding and that they'd better be looking into a new stock to restart their business model.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-09-14 21:18|| 2008-09-14 21:18|| Front Page Top

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