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2025-05-27 Europe

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Posted by Besoeker 2025-05-27 09:58|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [100 views ] Top

#1 Even a D-POTUS won't be stupid enough to start a war with Russia over the Baltics - especially given the fact that these "countries" keep provoking Russia.

Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-05-27 11:26|| 2025-05-27 11:26|| Front Page Top

#2 "provoking" as in remaining sovereign?

Posted by Frank G 2025-05-27 11:33|| 2025-05-27 11:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Provoking as in oppressing Russian minority, attacking Russian shipping, etc...

Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-05-27 11:38|| 2025-05-27 11:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Provoking as in attempting a naval blockade which is what Poles and Estonians did when they attempted to stop the Jaguar. That is an act of war as defined by UNCLOS of which the United States is a signatory and so is the European Union. It doesn't matter if they say they were trying to enforce sanctions. It's still a blockade no matter what they call it or why they say they're doing it and it's still an act of war.

If Russia detained a ship after that it was retaliation and Estonians are lucky if that's the only retaliation they get. It's a hell of a state of affairs if we have to rely on the Russians to be the ones who exercise restraint in the face of a provocation like that.

Article 5 is bullshit if Poles and Estonians are the ones who initiate hostilities. NATO's original purpose was to be a defensive force, not offensive, not a vehicle for the imperialist ambitions of some of its members. When did that change? Let's just see how brave the Poles and Estonians are without Uncle Sugar standing behind them.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2025-05-27 12:08|| 2025-05-27 12:08|| Front Page Top

#5 When did that change?

I'd say Bosnia.
When the Wall came down and the Soviet Union collapsed, it was time for us to leave. It was Deep State/MIC that kept us there beyond the original intent and thus fueled the natural paranoia of the Russians.

Posted by Procopius2k 2025-05-27 15:08|| 2025-05-27 15:08|| Front Page Top

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