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2011-04-06 Britain
Cameron: Britain caused many of the world's problems
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Posted by Steve White 2011-04-06 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11137 views ]  Top

#1 Daisy Cooper, the director of the Commonwealth Policy Studies Unit, said: "This is typical of the UK's schizophrenic relationship with former colonies where it is both proud and embarrassed about its past.

Daisy, please forward the "Proud Britain" folder on Zimbabwe and South Africa. I feel the need for a quiet toilet read.
Posted by Besoeker 2011-04-06 01:42||   2011-04-06 01:42|| Front Page Top

#2 Many trace the Israel-Palestine dispute back to Britain's decision in 1917 to establish a "national home for the Jewish people" in the territory then known as Palestine.

Actually, it was League of Nations decision---and the British did their best to sabotage it. Including alienating the bulk of the territory assigned for the purpose by the League to establish the toy kingdom of Jordan, and importing more than a million Arabs into the rest---to create the "Palestinian Nation", while blocking Jewish emigration from Europe in a run up for Holocaust.
But I guess, this is not part of the narrative.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-04-06 02:37||   2011-04-06 02:37|| Front Page Top

#3 The English have been wallowing in their stupid self-guilt for too damn long. And I mean English, because for all their group pretensions, it was always the English that were running the show.

The English Empire began in the late 16th Century, and from the start to the finish, it was *better* than anything anyone else offered. Would it have been "better" under the French kings? The Russian Tzars? The Chinese or Japanese Emperor?

And today, virtually every one of the English colonies got a leg up over non-colonized nations, and are still more civil than those of the French, Belgians, Germans, whoever else. Unless they systematically purged what the English taught them, so they could degenerate into brutal tribalism and primitivism.

All told, the English Empire was a very, very good thing in the world, and the philosophy of failure, despair and self-hatred the English embraced was stupid then, and it is stupid now.

No nation can survive with so many of its people anti-patriotic to the point where they are embarrassed that England even still exists, and hasn't been divided and destroyed as an EU administrative district, as some have proposed.

Were a new Cromwell to emerge, he would do well to ask the people to divide themselves into those that still loved England as a nation, and those too humiliated by England's past to stand it. Then to take this latter group out into the ocean and sink them, so that England would forever be cleansed of its nagging guilt and self destructiveness.

And those immigrants that would prefer a Sharia law England should join the guilty on the boat.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2011-04-06 09:42||   2011-04-06 09:42|| Front Page Top

#4 The biggest problem with any area that is contested by Muslims is their insane belief that any territory once controlled by Islam should always be controlled by Islam. The rest of the world doesn't share that belief, nor do they share the belief that Islam should dominate the entire world. Frankly, I'm personally tired of hearing Muslim "grievances". They need to shut the h$$$ up, grow up, and learn to live in the world as it is. Unfortunately, Islam doesn't allow that.
Posted by Old Patriot 2011-04-06 13:33||   2011-04-06 13:33|| Front Page Top

#5 The £650m apology: Forget our ailing education system, that's what Britain's giving to Pakistani schools to make amends for our imperial past
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-04-06 14:58||   2011-04-06 14:58|| Front Page Top

#6 What a stupid idiot. Brits gave India a parliamentary system, LAW, order, and a stable country, albeit unknowingly. Pakistan was and always will be a shithole - at least the Brits made a patrician there. I wonder if the EDF can bring sanity back to the great island.
Whatever he is doing, it's un-necessary and destructive.
Posted by newc 2011-04-06 17:19||   2011-04-06 17:19|| Front Page Top

#7 England, France and the US were in the lead of ending the pre-historic institution of slavery starting in the 18th and 19th Century. A lot of that colonialism they're apologizing for was to end practices like that bringing the world up a notch or two to the modern world. No nation is perfect, but there's no need to apologize to those who lagged in if not just refused to enter the 20th Century.

King James Bible -
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-04-06 17:31||   2011-04-06 17:31|| Front Page Top

#8 Modesty. That's adorable, David.
Posted by Fi  2011-04-06 17:54||   2011-04-06 17:54|| Front Page Top

#9 David Cameron is a bozo. Any empire that falls apart will have its share of territorial disputes. And empires existed when Britons were running around in animal skins. Heck, the famously cruel Romans, with Julius Caesar at the head of the legions, did a number on native British tribes, but I don't remember the Brits being particularly resentful about it. In fact, Caesar is one of the most celebrated Romans in Britain. The day that conquering British generals are celebrated in the ex-colonies is the day the latter have matured beyond self-pity, xenophobia and exaggerated self-regard.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2011-04-06 18:57||   2011-04-06 18:57|| Front Page Top

#10 "Britain giving up and turning to self-hatred caused many of the world's problems"

FTFY
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-04-06 19:10||   2011-04-06 19:10|| Front Page Top

#11 "David Cameron is a bozo."

David Cameron is a modest man, ZF.

With much to be modest about.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-04-06 19:13||   2011-04-06 19:13|| Front Page Top

#12 David Cameron is a modest man, ZF.

With much to be modest about.

I read that aloud to my family, Barbara, and they just... stopped for a moment to ponder it. Trailing daughter #1 wrote it down against future need. That's a very sharp scalpel you wield, my dear.
Posted by trailing wife 2011-04-06 21:42||   2011-04-06 21:42|| Front Page Top

#13 Thanks, tw, but it's not original with me. Somebody a lot smarter than me said it - I just can't remember who and am too lazy to Google Bing it. ;-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-04-06 21:56||   2011-04-06 21:56|| Front Page Top

#14 Winston Churchill, about Clement Atlee
Posted by Frank G 2011-04-06 22:14||   2011-04-06 22:14|| Front Page Top

#15 "Winston Churchill, about Clement Atlee"

See, Frank, I told you it was somebody a lot smarter that me. :-D
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-04-06 22:26||   2011-04-06 22:26|| Front Page Top

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