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2005-03-15 Great White North

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Posted by ed 2005-03-15 9:19:01 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11145 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Loon pic?

Posted by Steve from Relto 2005-03-15 9:30:51 AM|| 2005-03-15 9:30:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I thought these types of programs are are really good idea ... After a couple of months the state just makes a mistake in the lab and accidently gives them rat poison instead of heroin. Too bad that Canada will not have enough guts to do that.

Posted by 3dc 2005-03-15 9:36:20 AM|| 2005-03-15 9:36:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Glad the border's porous. Is there a place where we can contribute bus fare?

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-03-15 9:43:27 AM|| 2005-03-15 9:43:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Canada is just getting ready for all the LLL who are going to move there, as promised, after Bush won the election.

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-03-15 9:45:34 AM|| 2005-03-15 9:45:34 AM|| Front Page Top

Posted by Ebbavith Ebbereting9742 2005-03-15 10:00:34 AM|| 2005-03-15 10:00:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Give us your poor, your junkies, your cowards, your BDS sufferers yearning to get high free...eh?

Posted by tu3031 2005-03-15 10:02:50 AM|| 2005-03-15 10:02:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 And free healthcare to boot! and welfare! free legal aid! free taxi service and room and board! free socks! whats not to like?

Posted by john 2005-03-15 11:33:24 AM|| 2005-03-15 11:33:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 What? No free ponies?

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-03-15 11:59:10 AM|| 2005-03-15 11:59:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Somehow, I don't think the cry of "Free Heroin!" is gonna bring out the best in my fellow men.

Posted by mojo 2005-03-15 12:40:54 PM|| 2005-03-15 12:40:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Canada is just getting ready for all the LLL who are going to move there, as promised, after Bush won the election.

I wish that process would speed up by several notches.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-03-15 12:42:37 PM|| 2005-03-15 12:42:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Thank God it's just free heroin, and not something really bad like cigarettes.....

/sarcasm off

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-03-15 12:54:30 PM|| [http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com/] 2005-03-15 12:54:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 If it was free beer I might consider moving there. NOT!

Posted by Deacon Blues 2005-03-15 1:10:28 PM|| 2005-03-15 1:10:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Canada's going to provide free drugs? Sh*t, who's gonna wait in line six to nine months for a fix, man?

Posted by BH 2005-03-15 1:54:20 PM|| 2005-03-15 1:54:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Free Heroin is an integral part of the Joint security perimeter for North America by 2010. (up thread)

Didn't you silly people read the fine print?

Posted by bifocal 2005-03-15 3:48:49 PM|| 2005-03-15 3:48:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Will treatment for rapists and pedophiles be next?
Vancouver Opiate Medication Initiative Test - VOMIT!

Posted by Tom 2005-03-15 4:19:55 PM|| 2005-03-15 4:19:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 I hope that Canada will pay unemployment for all the dealer they are going to put out of work.

Posted by CanaveralDan 2005-03-15 4:23:36 PM|| 2005-03-15 4:23:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 must be white slag imported from you-know-who-with-puffy-hair

Posted by Frank G 2005-03-15 4:29:16 PM|| 2005-03-15 4:29:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Was wondering when this thread would pop up.

I live just shy of Vancouver, and I'd probably be up in arms but for the fact I know it just won't work. Notice that they only budgeted for 470 users? That's how this wonderful socialized medicine thing works.

Oh, you've suddenly come down with kidney/heart/liver/(insert organ here) failure? I'm sorry, we've only budgeted for X number of these services this quarter. If you can't hold out until the next projected budget, you'll just have to die.

Oh, you got yourself addicted to smak in hope that you'll get a free ride from the Vancouver government? Well, why don't you just shell out a few more dollars on the street, and hope that the government's hand in the market doesn't screw the price up too much. Maybe we can take care of you once we have total control over the market.

Honestly guys, it'll be a hoot. I just won't be making any field trips to Stanley Park or Granville Island anytime soon.

Posted by Asedwich 2005-03-15 7:48:08 PM|| 2005-03-15 7:48:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Asedwich, Sorry you didn't speak sooner. I've already sent two bums your way. If they don't get their free fix as promised, I think they'll be getting nasty before they get back. If they get back. But they're really nice guys when they are high.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-03-15 8:16:57 PM|| 2005-03-15 8:16:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 I can't understand from all the comments what the exact reasons of each person here is to object to this.

1) Is it that the government is spending taxpayers' money on this? Will it be spending more money than it'll be depriving from the drug-dealers?

2) Is it that you think you're gonna have people intentionally addicting themselves to heroin, because they think that the government will be there to protect them?

3) Is it that the Canadian government interferes in natural selection, and you'd just like all drug-addicts to fall down dead even if they've never hurt anyone other than themselves?

You all exhibit such levels of flippancy, that it's difficult to understand what the actual objections of each person to this are.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-03-15 9:01:50 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-03-15 9:01:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Aris, would you treat a pedophile by keeping him busy with child pornography? Wait -- you're European -- maybe you would. Never mind.

Posted by Tom 2005-03-15 9:09:39 PM|| 2005-03-15 9:09:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 I see you belong in category 3, Tom.

Drug addiction is something that primarily hurts the person addicted. It's not by itself a crime against another. Pedophilia on the other hand hurts innocent children.

So, screw your moral equivalency. And your insulting trollery ofcourse.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-03-15 9:12:58 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-03-15 9:12:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Heroin or pedophilia, somebody gets hurt either way -- but I guess you only care about the children.

Posted by Tom 2005-03-15 9:16:56 PM|| 2005-03-15 9:16:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Heroin or pedophilia, somebody gets hurt either way

I see how liberty-loving you are, when you think that hurting yourself is the moral equivalent of hurting innocent others.

but I guess you only care about the children.

I care about preventing innocents from coming to harm. If taking the drug dealers out of business by removing from the addicts the need to give them money to feed their addiction, then so be it.

But you ofcourse only care about making flippant trollish remarks.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-03-15 9:21:59 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-03-15 9:21:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 I should have clarified---I live *near* Canuckistan, but I'm not a Cheeser by any stretch of the imagination! :)

Posted by Asedwich 2005-03-15 10:17:53 PM|| 2005-03-15 10:17:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Aris, the problem with addicts is not their addiction as such, since it is true that they act to hurt nobody but themselves. But, they hurt their families and friends by their behaviour, just as alcoholics do: by being under the influence when they should be mentally and physically with others, by spending their money on their chemical of choice instead of on the welfare of those they are responsible to, by making their home a place of shame and degradation rather than peace and refuge. And generally, as the addiction proceeds, the addict first guts the family finances to buy his preferred mind-alterant, then turns to crime when all other funding sources are exhausted.

A government program such as Canada is proposing would address only the last stage of the process, and help only the strangers who would otherwise be victims of criminal attack. It would help not at all the families ruined and impoverished by the addict's descent, nor the damaged souls of his children.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-03-15 10:43:18 PM|| 2005-03-15 10:43:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 trailing wife> I understand what you are saying but I don't see why it should only affect the *last* stage of the process, and not have a positive influence throughout.

I'm starting to read on how went the issue in European countries:
Here's a page on Netherlands and one on Switzerland

These may be biased. I'll look for more info.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-03-15 11:44:02 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-03-15 11:44:02 PM|| Front Page Top

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