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2004-01-06 Syria-Lebanon
We won’t scrap WMD stockpile unless Israel does, says Assad
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Posted by phil_b 2004-01-06 5:59:18 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 phil_b:

Blair sez: "It can be dealt with diplomatically if people are prepared to do so, but it does have to be dealt with."

Yep, that's Chapter 2, page 47 of the Good Cop/Bad Cop Manual (2001 edition): "Look, we can do this the easy way, or we can do this the hard way, see ?"

Posted by Carl in NH 2004-1-6 6:14:06 AM||   2004-1-6 6:14:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 OK, get out the cluebat, I need some help. In past references to suicide bombers, the nationality was referred to as "Pali", and now it's "Paleo". Is this change an attempt to mix the study of fossils and the study of this particular military-political weapon? I could understand if the reference "Paleo" was used in regard to Mr. Arafat, since that leader is fossilized in both time and ideology, but the current crop of boomers seems to be getting more and more Jihadist than anti-zionist, and if so, that would indicate Arafat's influence is lessening whilst the fundie mullahs' increases.
Posted by Rivrdog  2004-1-6 7:31:24 AM||   2004-1-6 7:31:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Riverdog - Paleo kind of rolls off the tongue and has a nice connatation of being fossilized and dead. Somebody else referred to 'paleo boomers' and I just picked up the expression.
Posted by phil_b 2004-1-6 8:32:34 AM||   2004-1-6 8:32:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Rivrdog, to clarify, "Paleo" implies a certain primitiveness....
Posted by Carl in N.H. 2004-1-6 9:39:12 AM||   2004-1-6 9:39:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Rivrdog: We call them Paleos because Troglodyte is just too hard to spell.
Posted by BH  2004-1-6 10:33:20 AM||   2004-1-6 10:33:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Did I read that wrong or did Assad just admit having WMD and say he wouldn't get rid of them.

Tactically that's not really a bright thing to be saying rigth now.
Posted by ruprecht 2004-1-6 11:56:16 AM||   2004-1-6 11:56:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 It is the worst kept secret in the Middle East that Damascus has one of the largest stockpiles of chemical agents in the region.

Rather settles the question of where all the Iraqi WMD went.

If Blair is going to be effective as the good cop, we as the bad cop have to keep up with the menacing words and poses. "Tony, go get a doughnut, I'll get this mutt to confess!"
Posted by Steve White  2004-1-6 1:34:26 PM||   2004-1-6 1:34:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Paleo you mean Balestintians?
Posted by Shipman 2004-1-6 2:43:30 PM||   2004-1-6 2:43:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 ruprecht, I am asking the same question. This line worked real well for Saddam.

Hey Assad, that sign on your back says (in English): KICK ME!
Posted by john  2004-1-6 3:21:27 PM||   2004-1-6 3:21:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 If all things were on the up and up, I wouldn't see anything wrong with Assad's position. Would we give up ours? Would Israel give up theirs?

He has at least two divisions of what he believes (possibly correctly) to be a mercenary force two days away and certainly believes that they were going to eliminate him next, with or without WMD's.(or was it Iran 1st, Syria 2nd?)

Syria's WMD's are Israel's problem, not ours. Why should any of our young people die for Israel's security?
Posted by Scott 2004-1-6 3:53:47 PM||   2004-1-6 3:53:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 BusHitler was selected not elected, by
Dick Cheney and Haliburton, to start a war
in Iraq to steal the oil.
Bush lied... thousand died.
Mars is made of Jello.

BOOGER, BOOGER, BOOGER, BOOGER
Posted by J. Fever M.D. 2004-1-6 5:37:35 PM||   2004-1-6 5:37:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Syria's WMD might easily find their way into the hands of terrorists. They are a regime that has supported terrorists and continues to support terrorists. They are everyones problem. Problems should be solved, and if that means invasion so be it. Although he's not as bad as Saddam by a longshot, or his father, Assad Jr. is still a first class bastard and if he doesn't see the writing on the wall and pull a Quadaffi I won't weep.
Posted by ruprecht 2004-1-6 6:55:23 PM||   2004-1-6 6:55:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Scott - In a nutshell for the last 50 years or so, the international order has been based on you can do whatever nasty things you like to your own citizens, as long as you don't cross any borders.

That has now changed and doing nasty things to your own citizens is prima facia evidence you are capable of doing nasty things to us or supporting people who would. Quaddafi grasped this, and realized the world has changed. Assad doesn't seem to have grasped the point and is stuck in the old mindset.

My prediction for 2004 is we will get solid proof that Iraqi WMDs went to Syria and issue an ultimatum to Assad along the lines of 'There will be verfied disposal one way or another, you have x days to choose.' Blair has basically said this already.
Posted by phil_b 2004-1-6 7:32:13 PM||   2004-1-6 7:32:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 phil b - you gave Scott too much credit - he refers to our military as "mercenary forces" ...i.e.: it's all about the oooiiilllll
Posted by Frank G  2004-1-6 8:27:08 PM||   2004-1-6 8:27:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 No, Frank, I think he's blaming the Jooooooossssss!!!
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-1-6 8:51:09 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-1-6 8:51:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 A Syrian defector and regime critic just published a story in Western Europe saying that Saddam's WMD are in three places in Syria.

And Scott, you're a weenie. Any country's WMD are our business because we're the great Satan.
Posted by Tibor 2004-1-6 10:39:16 PM||   2004-1-6 10:39:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 
#2
"Paleos" are natives of Paleostine, a primitive area adjacent to Israel.

Paleostinians are also known as Pals, Palis, Philistines, and Lemmings.
Posted by Fred  2004-1-6 10:40:02 PM||   2004-1-6 10:40:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#18  Paleostinians are also known as Pals, Palis, Philistines, and Lemmings.
Fred, you forgot to mention that 100% of them are Lebanese, Jordanian, Syrian, Saudi, Egyptian, or Lilliputian Arabs from somewhere else other than Palestine, which only existed in the minds of the citizens of these other countries. The biggest argument against "redrawing" the borders of Israel is that both Egypt and Jordan issued "occupation" stamps for the areas of Israel under their control, and labelled them "Palestine". The entire "Palestine" question could be settled by assigning a trillion-dollar indemnity to the "Palestinian people" for crimes against Israel and Israeli citizens. See how fast all those "Palestinians" suddenly reverted to their original nationality.
Posted by Old Patriot  2004-1-7 12:55:16 AM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2004-1-7 12:55:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 O.K.
phil - If say, Syria were to submit their Chem stockpile to int'l inspection to prevent terrorist use, then Israel should have to also. I don't have any love for Assad or Syria. I just don't trust all that Israeli money flowing around D.C.

Frank - As to our forces being used as a mercenary blocking force for Israel - you might be surprised how many in our military think so. Anyway, the whole ME knows that. Oil? No, I said, "Israel's security".

Robert - Blaming the Jews? Not as a whole. Some of them?
Absolutely.

Tibor - If Saddam's WMD's are in Syria, then we demand that they hand them over. If not, then we go in and get them. And we'd better have better intel than in Iraq. Oh yeah, weenie, do you have any kin in harm's way? If not, you're a hypocrite.

OP - not a bad idea, as long as the compensation runs both ways. Make sure you go back to the Stern gang.

Oh, and Fred - they're just people. Unsophisticated and dispossessed. Believing bad lies, and unlucky as to their homeland. So maybe they should be exterminated, huh? It seems like a lot of people around here think so. Was fostering that idea your intention?
Posted by Scott 2004-1-7 3:18:31 AM||   2004-1-7 3:18:31 AM|| Front Page Top

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