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Australian Islamic Council cuts ties with mufti
2007-04-07
CONTROVERSIAL Muslim leader Sheik Taj al Din al-Hilaly has been sacked as mufti by the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils (AFIC). The AFIC has also abolished the role of mufti, severed all ties with the sheik and stopped paying his salary, Fairfax Newspapers report.

AFIC President Ikebal Patel said the organisation owned the title of mufti and had stopped paying Sheik Hilaly's salary. The role of mufti has now become redundant following a decision by the Australian National Imams Council (ANIC). The council has decided to create a community of imams to deal with community issues and a chairman or president will be selected as spokesperson.

But the Egyptian-born sheik has fought back and registered the title of mufti for himself.

The move to oust Sheik Hilaly comes as Australian Federal Police investigate allegations that he gave charity funds to supporters of the al-Qaeda and Hezbollah terrorist organisations.

His sacking follows a string of controversies which have embarrassed the Islamic community. Last year the sheik likened scantily-clad women to uncovered meat and then, during a visit to Egypt, said Muslims had more right to be in Australia than Europeans.

ANIC spokesman Mohamad Abdalla said 39 of the 50 clerics who attended the ANIC conference last month voted against reappointing him. “Muslims don't want al-Hilaly as mufti,” Dr Abdalla said. Sheik Hilaly will cease to be mufti once his three-month grace period ended, Dr Abdalla said.

Fairfax reports that the sheik, who is in Turkey at a conference, has established his own organisation in a bid to corner the title of mufti for himself.
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Muslim fears for life over calls for sheik step-down
2006-11-08
A prominent Muslim doctor who demanded Australia's mufti quit after his controversial sermon fears for his life after a series of threats. Dr Jamal Rifi says he received calls, emails and letters from Islamic extremists after taking a stand against his former friend Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly. The threats were spurred by an open letter written by the Bankstown GP which condemned the mufti's apparent justification of rape.

Dr Rifi said he has been forced to install a security system at his surgery and take other precautions to protect his family and staff. "I've told my wife to be careful and we now take our kids to school and bring them back every day," he said.

"We're not seeing any new patients either, only people we trust, and I've told my office to take extra care. I have to be cautious because I've had a few nasty emails and a few nasty phones calls and faxes that were not nice at all."

But the threats have not stopped Dr Rifi from further demanding Sheik Hilaly step aside following the inflammatory comments which compared immodestly dressed women with uncovered meat and seemingly blamed them for sexual assault.

He said the cleric's recovery speech last Friday did manage to relieve some tension which had built up "like a pressure cooker about to explode". But his offer to resign if an ethical tribunal found him guilty of condoning rape "just causes more problems", the doctor said.

"He has already been trialled, judged and convicted in the court of public opinion so he must go," said Dr Rifi, who formed the Australian Muslim Doctors Against Violence during the Lebanon-Israel conflict.

"What he said has done a lot of damage. I believe he is the wrong image of Islam and it's really not a good reflection on our community, him staying in this position."
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Rape victim defends Sheik al-Hilaly
2006-11-04
Rape victim defends embattled sheik November 04, 2006 12:00

Brilliant PR strategy from the Lebanese Muslim Association. It just goes to show what we are up against. F*ing bastards these Islamofascist gits are. But they are masters of spin doctoring and it is in the media that the war is won and lost. They are flogging us.

I wonder where they dug this alleged rape victim from, if indeed she was ever raped. Disgusting. Especially in light of the fact a victim of the gang rapes carried out by muslim pakistanis and lebs from southwest sydney in the Lakemba Mosque catchment area came out and told off the Sheik and said he had effectively incited the crime committed on her body.

A WOMAN who described herself as a rape victim today defended the mufti of Australia, Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly, saying his controversial comments did not mean he justified rape.
In fact he said he would lock up rape victims in prison as they were partly responsible for thier own rape. He said it was their fault as if they were 'in their home, in their room, in their hijab' it would not have occurred.
Useful idiotCindy Taylor walked with the sheik down the steps of Sydney's Lakemba Mosque after prayers today, before speaking to reporters.
Sheik's PR machine leaps into action
The sheik has been at the centre of controversy since likening immodestly dressed women to uncovered meat and suggesting they invited sexual assault.

Ms Taylor said she understood what the sheik had tried to say, and called on Australians to be more open-minded.
Open your mind to the idea that if you don't wear the hijab, 'you're asking for it'. Open your minds to the idea that women are not equals with the right to refuse sex.
"He was not being politically correct. But, he's not a politician, he's a philosophical leader," she said.
Who leads 5000 muslims many of whom participated in gang rapes specifically targetting non-Muslim 'aussie sluts', the attitude they learned in the mosque.
"He's a wonderful man and his analogy certainly did not justify the act of rape.
No, it did not justify it, it excused it and blamed the victim. Two different things.
"He believes that the act of rape is one of the worst capital crimes in Islam."
for which he believes the victim must be punished
Ms Taylor said she had been raped twice, when she was 14 and 30, but no one was ever charged.
got any evidence?
Four witnesses? No? Gather the stones.
She said was raised a Christian who had developed an interest in Islam.
Islamic female to the rescue
Sheik al-Hilaly yesterday said he would resign if an impartial panel found him guilty of inciting rape.
More islamic females on the jury? Direct incitement, no. Providing the cultural background and attitude behind it? Yes. Creating a culture of disrespect for non-Muslim women? yes. Blaming the victim for rape? yes.
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Riot police at sheik's mosque
2006-11-02
RIOT police will be on hand during prayers at Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly's Sydney mosque today.

The sheik has called on his faithful to join him for Friday prayers at Lakemba Mosque for his first public appearances since being rushed to hospital with chest pains on Monday.

Police have already closed the road outside the mosque in western Sydney in anticipation of the thousands of supporters expected to gather before prayers begin at 1pm (AEDT).

Large numbers of police, including riot police, will also be on hand.

Officers with bomb-sniffer dogs had been through the mosque, which has been covered in flowers from the sheik's supporters.

The mufti will speak at the prayers and his appearance is expected to promote a strong display of loyalty from supporters galvanised by calls for his resignation.

The sheik, one of the country's most senior Muslim clerics, has been under fire from sections of his own community as well as others over a sermon he gave last month in which he suggested immodestly dressed women invited sexual assault.

Thousands of Muslims had been marshalled to attend a rally in Lakemba tomorrow but the sheik, speaking on Voice of Islam Radio in Sydney yesterday urged them not to attend.

Clerics had tried to stop the unofficial demonstration, which they feared could degenerate into chaos. Some are worried it could prompt a repeat of the violence of last year's Cronulla riot.

The groundswell of support for the sheik gained more momentum when senior clerics and imams joined dozens of Muslim community groups in backing him yesterday.

A statement signed by 34 Muslim community groups accused the media and politicians of exaggerating the scandal and using it to vilify Australian Muslims.

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Hilaly 'refuses to be silenced'
2006-11-02
BESIEGED Muslim cleric Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly is expected to make his first public appearance since his dramatic collapse by attending Friday prayers tomorrow. As the controversial cleric yesterday checked out of Canterbury Hospital in Sydney and into a private hospital to continue recuperating, the Islamic community was abuzz with speculation he will attend Lakemba Mosque tomorrow.

"The plan was to keep him there for two weeks and after that get airline tickets for him to go to Saudi Arabia (for Haj)."
It comes as The Daily Telegraph can reveal supporters of the lunatic firebrand cleric had concocted a plan to have the Mufti moved to a farm at Goulburn while they "ride the wave" of public outcry following publication of his controversial sermon likening women to uncovered meat. "The plan was to keep him there for two weeks and after that get airline tickets for him to go to Saudi Arabia (for Haj)," former confidant Dr Jamal Rifi revealed yesterday.

The two men have had a major falling out since the reporting of the mufti's controversial comments even though Sheik Hilaly had sought Mr Rifi's opinion the night before the damaging remarks were made public. Dr Rifi said the Sheik had met at his home from 11pm (AEDT) seeking his opinion on how to handle any fall-out.
"Eminence, they are out there to get you and you have to be extremely careful!"
"I told him 'Your Corpulence Eminence, they are out there to get you and you have to be extremely careful'," Dr Rifi said. "It's not like before - this time is very serious and has created a big rift and you have to be careful."

But Dr Rifi said their plan to "ride the wave" was blown after Islamic Friendship Association president Keysar Trad organised for a television crew to interview the mufti in his sick bed. He said the mufti then reneged on a promise not to make any more public statements by attending Lakemba Mosque last Friday and delivering a "fiery" speech.

Sheik Hilaly's daughter Asma said yesterday the family was hopeful the 65-year-old would address worshippers and make a public statement tomorrow. "When he comes out, he'll probably be speaking to the media to put an end to all of this talk about him," Ms Hilaly told The Daily Telegraph.

Despite taking infinite indefinite leave from preaching, the mufti can deliver a sermon tomorrow if he wants to. "If he wants to do a speech on the day, he will," Lebanese Muslim Association president Tom Zreika said.
When you're a mufti, your seniority supersedes everyone else.
"When you're a mufti, you're superior to mere mortals your seniority supersedes everyone else. If the mufti says he wants to talk and you're the guy who's about to hold the sermon, you can't tell him to piss off say no. You would move aside and let him talk," he said. "Or else he'd turn you into a pillar of salt."

Supporters of the mufti yesterday accused worshippers from a rival mosque of trying to discredit him.That was yesterday denied by Bankstown mosque Imam Sheik Ibrahim El-Safie who said: "It's a stunt to deviate the attention away from the inflammatory remarks he's made." Sheik Safie said his group Darulfatwa - the Islamic Council of Australia - does not consider Sheik Hilaly to be the most-senior Muslim in the country. He said the title went to their mufti, Sheik Salim Alwan, chairman of Darulfatwa.
"Our guy's a lot holier," he added.
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Muslims plan rally in support of Hilaly
2006-10-31
MEMBERS of Sydney's Islamic community sent thousands of text messages urging a non-violent rally yesterday as former prime minister Malcolm Fraser accused the Government of using Muslims as an election issue.

The text messages called for a show of support this Saturday for embattled cleric Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly. One described the planned rally as "a critical day to show our solidarity and to silence the hypocrites!"

The barrage of text and email messages came as the sheik's family confirmed he would not be stepping down as Mufti of Australia despite the outrage caused by his remarks about the victims of rape.

Sheik Hilaly's daughter Asma Hilaly said her father had simply taken temporary sick leave from his duties at Lakemba mosque after collapsing on Monday.

"He will not step down. He's always been strong. Strong, tall and defiant and none of this will shake him and bring him down," the 25-year-old said outside Canterbury Hospital.

She said her father – who is expected to remain in hospital for at least another two days – still planned to travel to Mecca in the next few weeks.

Former prime minister Malcolm Fraser accused the Howard Government of fuelling an "increase in fear and concern over the followers of Islam", The Age newspaper reported.

"There are already suggestions that this next election will be a 'Muslim election', as a while ago it was the Tampa election," he said.

"It would create a terrible and unnecessary divide between Islam and the rest of the community."

Many Muslims, wary of public perception, said they wanted to ensure any rally in support of Sheik Hilaly was peaceful and did not turn into a "flag burning" by an angry mob.

One message sender feared a repeat of the scenes at the Lakemba mosque on the night of the Cronulla riots, when fights broke out during a rally.

"Last thing we need is another display like what was seen outside Lakemba mosque on the night of the riots," the message implored.

Lebanese Muslim Association president Tom Zreika said last night the rally had not been officially organised by the association and "mixed messages" were being sent about what day the protest would take place.

"We will get some protesters on Friday coming up to Lakemba mosque and chanting for him (Sheik Hilaly) to come back," Mr Zreika said.

"Friday is our Sabbath so it's more likely to be then."

Other messages called on Muslims to support their besieged cleric at a protest at Parry Park near Lakemba Mosque on Saturday at 1pm.

Mr Zreika is urging that any show of support for Shiek Hilaly be in a peaceful manner.

Messages

Emails and text messages, referred to in a Muslim Village Australia website forum, calling on Muslims to support besieged Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly at Saturday's protest:

"THIS SMS has been spreading everywhere: Get Prepared! Peaceful protest in support of Mufti Al-Hilaly at Parry Park this Saturday at 1pm. This is a critical day to show our solidarity and to silence the hypocrites!"

"I WOULD like it to be an organised rally not just a gathering of angry, hot-headed Muslims shouting slogans, burning flags or other symbols etc"

"DEFINITELY keep it organised. Last thing we need is another display like what was seen outside Lakemba mosque on the night of the riots. A lot of the troublemakers weren't even Muslim, and were there just for the fights and trouble and then it becomes all about 'look at the trouble the Muslims are causing' instead of 'Muslims speak out in support of Shk Taj'"

"(THE rally must be) a message of unwavering support to our Shaykh and a show of strength that our community will not be forced to please the wishes of our fascist government."

Another member of the forum asked:

"IS this being organised by someone? Or is this (SMS) just being circulated by individuals? I think it would be much better if any rally is done professionally and in an organised manner."

The same forum member said it was important volunteer stewards were at the rally to:

"ENSURE no one steps out of line (no flag-burning etc)... The event itself will send a message that the Muslim community is strong, organised and united and will not be intimidated by the media or the politicians."
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Clerics to discuss mufti's future
2006-10-29
SENIOR clerics will meet at Sydney's Lakemba Mosque tonight to discuss the future of controversial Muslim leader Sheik Taj al-Dina al-Hilaly - following public outcry over his comments comparing women to meat.

Lebanese Muslim Association spokesman Keysar Trad said the meeting would take place at the mosque in Sydney’s west from 9pm (AEST). "It is open to clerics who want to go, and they will be mostly from NSW," Mr Trad said.

Sheik Hilaly has said he will stand down if he is proved to have been deliberately offensive in his sermon that suggested women provoked sexual attacks. The sheik was widely criticised last week for comparing scantily clad women to uncovered meat.

Prime Minister John Howard today said he did not have the power to sack the Muslim leader, and could only call on those with power to resolve the issue. "The responsibility to resolve this matter sensibly rests with the Islamic community," he said. "I don't appoint him, I can't dismiss him.

"And there is no point in people in my position calling for this and that, other than to call upon those who have the power to resolve this matter, to resolve this matter in a way that promotes the interests of harmony in our community and promotes the view Islamic Australians are fully integrated into Australian society."

He said the Islamic community must hear what the rest of the Australian community was saying on the issue and asked them to "discharge their obligations as members of the Australian community". "If this matter is not properly handled by the Islamic community I am concerned that their failure to do so will do lasting damage to the perceptions of that community within the Australian community," Mr Howard said. "His remarks were totally unacceptable - full stop."

Meanwhile, Mr Howard said the Labor government at the time made a "blatantly political decision" to keep Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly in Australia in the late 1980s.

News Limited newspapers - parent company of News Interactive, publisher of NEWS.com.au - have said that Mr Keating and leading Labor figure Leo McLeay demanded in 1989 that then-immigration minister Robert Ray grant the sheik residency and were furious when he refused. It was the second time the party leaders had attempted to intervene on behalf of the sheik, according to Labor sources.

The sheik arrived in Australia in 1982 but did not gain residency until 1990. "But it's happened now and he has rights as an Australian citizen and those rights have to be respected," Mr Howard said.

Sheik Hilaly said he would not be attending the Multicultural Eid Festival and Fair to celebrate the end of the Islamic fasting month of Ramadan at Fairfield today. A spokesman for the sheik said he did not want his presence to take the focus off the festival itself.
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Meeting to decide cleric's future
2006-10-29
MUSLIM leaders will decide on the future of controversial Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly tonight. Sheik Hilaly has said he will stand down if he is proved to have been deliberately offensive in his sermon that suggested women provoked sexual attacks.

A meeting of senior clerics and the Lebanese Muslim Association was planned for 9pm (AEDT) tonight at Lakemba Mosque, in Sydney's west, Lebanese Muslim Association spokesman Keysar Trad said today. "It is open to clerics who want to go, and they will be mostly from NSW," Mr Trad said.

Sheik Hilaly said he would not be attending the Multicultural Eid Festival and Fair to celebrate the end of the Islamic fasting month of Ramadan at Fairfield today. A spokesman for the sheik said he did not want his presence to take the focus off the festival itself. The sheik was widely criticised last week for comparing scantily clad women to uncovered meat.
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Daughter defends Muslim cleric
2006-10-27
THE daughter of besieged Muslim cleric Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly said his comments have been misinterpreted and the media should "leave him alone".
"Leave 'im alone, you big bullies!"
Asma al-Hilaly said her father comments implying that immodestly dressed women invite sexual attacks were not his own words.
"He got them from the writings of a medieval pope. I think it was Pope Bob... Yes. I'm sure it was."
She said the offending quote, likening women to uncovered meat tempting cats to eat it, was offered to a group of old men as a way urging them, to teach their daughters to be modest. "All I'm saying is that what he said was (taken) out of context," Ms al-Hilaly told Southern Cross Broadcasting. "Leave him alone. He is a sick man.
"I mean, like, really sick. He tried to feed me to a cat once."
"He was in a house of God. He was only preaching to a group of old men. And his only concern was for them to keep their daughters modest. It all got out of context, blown out of proportion out of something little. Move on."
"Just get over it. And keep that cat away from me!"
Ms al-Hilaly said her father was misinterpreted by unfair translation of the sermon. "He was not inviting people to rape (women). That's the thing that was out of context," she said. "He was just teaching women to be modest."
"So they won't be eaten by cats. I mean, who wants to be eaten by cats?"
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Wood family gives thanks to mufti
2005-07-31
THE brother of freed hostage Douglas Wood today visited the senior Islamic cleric who travelled to Iraq to try to secure his brother's freedom. Malcolm Wood presented the mufti of Australia, Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly, with a gift at his Sydney home and said his help was greatly appreciated. Australian engineer Douglas Wood, 64, was freed by Iraqi and American soldiers on June 15, after being held hostage for six weeks.

Before Mr Wood's release, Sheik al-Hilaly travelled to Iraq to try to negotiate his freedom. "At danger to his life and in ill health he went to Iraq ... (to) help save our brother Douglas," Malcolm Wood said today. "I think it's likely the Sheik's efforts helped immeasurably."

Before joining the mufti and his family for brunch, Malcolm Wood said his brother was still suffering from ill health after his ordeal. "He's okay but he has some health problems," Mr Wood said. "His vision is still very poor and he has severe rheumatoid arthritis." Mr Wood said Douglas was visiting the US, but hoped to meet with the mufti personally to thank him in the future.
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Wood raid report a furphy
2005-06-21
Senior government and defence sources have directly contradicted weekend reports by journalist Paul McGeough, who claimed that Australian raids on the home of Sheik Hassan Zadaan had delayed the effort to free Mr Wood from his captors. The sources also confirmed that raids by Australian and US forces on Sheik Zadaan and a number of other targets in Iraq during the Australian engineer's 47-day ordeal made "no difference" to Mr Wood's fate. The inflated claims of the high-profile Fairfax journalist about supposed intermediaries are coming under sharper focus in the wake of Mr Wood's dramatic rescue last week.

It now appears that claims the raid that freed Mr Wood had damaged the rescue hopes for two other Iraqis are also unfounded, as the men were killed several weeks ago. It is the second time the reporter has been accused of inaccuracy after senior Bush administration officials discredited a story in July last year in which he claimed the new Iraqi Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi, had pulled a pistol and executed up to six suspected insurgents at a Baghdad police station just days before Washington handed over control to his interim government.

Sheik Zadaan and some of his associates were the target of a raid in early May by coalition forces including Australian special forces troops. At the time, Sheik Zadaan had told the reporter in Baghdad he had begun negotiating with Mr Wood's captors and would rescue him. However, according to senior government and defence sources, Sheik Zadaan and his associates were detained, interrogated and released after it was established he knew nothing about the Wood case. "We know a lot about Sheik Zadaan but he had no idea where Wood was," one source said.

Government sources have also rejected claims by a senior Australian Muslim cleric, Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly, that last week's raid, which freed Wood, "had almost certainly cost the lives" of two Iraqis taken hostage with him. In fact, the two men, Faris Sahkir and Adel Farhawy Najm, were found dead in Baghdad a month ago. The pair, who were associated with Mr Wood's business activities in Iraq, were identified by their families and buried last week. Both men had been tortured and later killed by the group that kidnapped Mr Wood.

While senior ministers have praised Sheik Hilali's efforts to secure Mr Wood's freedom, there is no evidence he played any role in the Iraqi army raid that rescued him. "It's not true that there was any direct connection between his activities and Wood's release," observed one government source. According to the head of Australia's emergency response team, Nick Warner, Mr Wood was most likely held by a Sunni criminal gang who had had previous involvement in kidnappings.

Mr Wood was held in two locations in Baghdad, spending 37 days in the house where he was finally found. Throughout his captivity coalition military forces, including Australians, mounted numerous surveillance missions around the Iraqi capital in an effort to locate Mr Wood. The raid on Sheik Zadaan would have resulted from intelligence provided by the US-led coalition forces in Baghdad. Shiek Zadaan is believed to have had links to some Sunni insurgents wanted by the coalition. "There were reasons to believe these guys were up to no good," one source told The Australian. "The actual raid (on Zadaan) made no difference whatsoever to Wood's fate."

On Monday, the Prime Minister firmly rejected claims the emergency response team had bundled an attempt to rescue Mr Wood days after he was kidnapped. Mr Howard was referring to reports in Fairfax newspapers that the raid on Shiek Zadaan had botched an earlier attempt to secure Mr Wood's freedom.
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Loser sheikh throws temper tantrum
2005-06-20
THE "stupid action" of military forces who raided the Iraq house where Douglas Wood was found had risked the lives of two Iraqi hostages, Australia's Islamic spiritual leader said today. Australian Mufti Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly returned to Sydney today from his Middle East mission to try to secure the 63-year-old engineer's release. Sheik al-Hilaly's arrival in Sydney this morning coincided with Mr Wood touching down in Melbourne.

Mr Wood was released last week when Iraqi and American troops on a general sweep-and-cordon operation in Baghdad were tipped off to a house of interest where the Australian was found, Prime Minister John Howard said today.
They weren't tipped off it was a random, accidental find. Howard is still trying to diplomatically brownose the sheik. Why? And why the backflip on illegal immigrants?
At a Sydney mosque today, Sheikh al-Hilali told of his concern for two Iraqi hostages – one of whom was Mr Wood's driver. He said both men, known only as Farris and Adel, had families and were still in grave danger.

Reports last week said the troops who freed Mr Wood had also found another hostage, a 19-year-old Iraqi identified as Rasool.

Sheikh al-Hilaly was critical of the military operation in Baghdad and said Mr Wood had been close to being released anyway. He said the raid had endangered the lives of the other two hostages. "The stupid action that was taken last week has exposed the fathers of these families to death," he said in Arabic, translated by his spokesman Keysar Trad.
"And besides, I got no credit!"
"There's a 90 per cent chance they will not be released."
For behold I am the master expert of percentages
If military forces had only delayed their actions, the two Iraqi nationals might also have been freed, he said. "If they waited 12 hours everything would have worked out all right," he said.
Just like last time i told you Wood would be freed... weeks ago, you remember?
The sheik said he could have secured Mr Wood's release within the first week of his arrival in Iraq but had held off to try to also secure the release of the other two Iraqis. "It was within my reach, it was almost possible to free him (Douglas Wood) in the first week ...," he said.
"You need me no really you do! It is better to have my help than the military.. no really believe me!"
"I coulda been a contenda!"
Sheik al-Hilaly said he had co-ordinated his actions with those of the head of Australia's emergency response team, Nick Warner, whom he said had been advised "step by step" and knew of Mr Wood's imminent release. "We had reached an agreement that somebody would contact Mr Warner and tell him that Mr Wood would be taken to the Babel Hotel and from there he could be taken to the Australian embassy," he said.

But military forces had wrongly used the information that had been supplied, he said. "As I see it, the Iraqi forces were going for one thing and they discovered something else and they handed Mr Wood over to the Americans," he said. "Like someone who goes fishing, he puts his fish in a bucket – next thing someone comes and takes it from behind his back."
That's my fish give it back baggins... Baggins.. we hates it ! my precious... my victory... i'm important... allah allah
The sheik said he had wanted to avoid the raid and secure Mr Wood's release in a more "civilised and peaceful" way than had occurred.
For behold i am the master of CIVilisation... Fatima be silent or I'll beat you with this stick ... it is the will of allah.
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