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Islamic preacher who praised 'dying while fighting jihad' given platform at London uni
2016-11-27
[EXPRESS.CO.UK] Abdur Raheem Green, a Moslem convert who has been placed on international "movement alert list" by Australia's government and banned from Arsenal’s Emirates Stadium for making anti-Semitic comments, addressed students at a Soas Islamic Society charity event.

Mr Green is known for preaching at Hyde Park corner in London and has previously claimed the conflict between Islam and Western societies is "ordered in the Koran".

He has also preached: "Dying while fighting jihad is one of the surest ways to paradise and Allah’s good pleasure."

In 2005 he was stopped from boarding a flight to Australia after being placed on a "movement alert list" over concerns about his radical rhetoric.

The Islamic Education and Research Academy, a charity he co-founded and chairs, and was warned by the Charity Commission to distance itself from murderous Moslems.
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Britain
Islamic preacher to college students: 'Terrorism works'
2011-06-07
An Islamic preacher told students that it was difficult to argue with Bin Laden's views and said "terrorism works" during a speech at a university in London.

Abdur Raheem Green, a Muslim convert and former public schoolboy,
Not one of the poor and ignorant claimed to populate the ranks of the jihadi organizations, then.
Certainly not Harry Paget Flashman either...
claimed that a "permanent state of war exists between the people of Islam and the people who opposed Islam," while addressing students at University College London (UCL). He gave the speech to the university's Islamic society while Umar Farouq Abdulmutallab, the Detroit bomber, was a student there in 2005.
Quite some time ago. Still, nice to know.
Referring to Osama in his 2005 UCL speech, Green, who says he is not an extremist, said that it was difficult to argue with his views. Green said, "His rational [sic] is, we are going to keep on killing your women and children until you stop killing our women and children. How do you argue with that? The other thing is that it seems that terrorism works. We certainly have precedent."
Did he mean the 9/11 attacks? I'm not sure that in the end that's worked well for the group organizing the attack...
This disclosure follows a statement by Theresa May, the Home Secretary, in which she said there had been "complacency" by universities about Islamism.

Qasim Rafiq, a spokesman for the Federation of Student Islamic Societies, invited Green to speak at UCL along with two speakers from Hizb ut-Tahrir and another who has supported the Taliban. Since then, Green has been invited to give lectures at London University's School of Oriental and African Studies, Queen Mary and Bart's and at UCL.
Has the government considered either jailing such speakers for incitement or something, or expelling them from the country for un-British activities? Defenestration works as a concept, too.
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Down Under
Schoolboys told of 'evil' Aussies
2006-12-06
STUDENTS at the Islamic school from which two boys were expelled for desecrating the Bible were shown videos of a banned cleric calling Australian Christians "evil" and non-Muslim schools "sewers".

Teachers at East Preston Islamic College say students have also been seen downloading and copying material from a website that attacks the Bible as promoting "vicious criminal acts".

The Australian yesterday revealed the school in Melbourne's north expelled two boys and suspended a third over the desecration - a Bible was urinated on, spat on and burnt - during a school camp for boys from years 7 to 10 boys last week.

The Australian has obtained a videotape from the school's library of a lecture given for Australian Muslims by the firebrand British convert Abdur Raheem Green, who was blocked from coming to Australia last year.

In the video, believed to have been taped during a visit in 2003, Green describes Australian non-Muslims as "evil people" and says Muslims in this country must openly criticise Christianity and lure people to Islam.

"If we leave (Muslims) in these (non-Muslim Australian) schools they will be destroyed," he says in the sermon.

"You know very well what takes place in these schools ... it is all about evolution, Christmas, Easter, St Valentine's Day - a barrage. And you expect your children to survive? You think you live in a sewer and you come up smelling of roses?

"Merely living in the company of evil people will inevitably begin to rub off on us and we will begin to acquire their characteristics."

A teacher, who asked not to be named, confirmed that the tape, marked East Preston Islamic College, has been shown to students at the school. It is not known if the tape was seen by the three boys who desecrated the Bible.

Another teacher said yesterday he had seen students at the school downloading and copying pages from the website Evilbible.com.

"For far too long priests and preachers have completely ignored the vicious criminal acts that the Bible promotes," the website says. "The so called God of the Bible makes Osama bin Laden look like a boy scout."

Principal Shaheem Doutie has apologised for the desecration by "ignorant" and "illiterate" children and insists his school promotes religious tolerance. Mr Doutie, who has been at the school since April, said he was unaware of any radical material in the library.

He had previously instructed library staff not to accept any radical material and said he would take steps to remove anything still there.

The desecration was yesterday condemned by Muslim and non-Muslim leaders who called on the community not to overreact.

The Catholic Archbishop in Melbourne, Denis Hart, said there was a good relationship between the Muslim and Christian communities in Melbourne. He said all holy books should be respected.

Yasser Solimon, a former head of the Islamic Council of Victoria, said his community was shocked by the desecration, which should be seen as "the actions of stupid boys rather than any reflection on the school or the wider community".

you gotta have a dissimulation thrown in.

"I think this needs to be seen in the context of five years of certain types of reporting on global events like the war on terror, what is happening in Iraq, attacks on the Koran by some soldiers in Guantanamo Bay and the Abu Ghraib prison scandal," he said. "It is sad to see the hatreds of one generation being passed on - we need leadership here to stand up collectively to this."
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