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2026-04-07 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran rejects ceasefire proposal, President Trump Threatens To 'Take Out Entire Country Of Iran' Tomorrow Night, Demands 'Free Traffic Of Oil' In Hormuz; Minister calls for youth to be human shields at power plants
[ZERO] Summary:

  • Trump threatens "Iran can be taken out in one night... maybe tomorrow"; Warns 'every bridge and power plant' will be destroyed

  • WSJ reports US military is making preparations for potential strikes on energy targets in Iran. Universities and airports are already being hit.

  • A Sunday night Axios report on a US-proposed 45-day ceasefire has by Monday morning been rejected by Iran, which later on Monday issued a 10-point letter via Pakistan.

  • Israel strikes large petrochemical plant at South Pars, which is responsible for half of the country’s petrochemical production.

  • Trump reaffirms Tuesday deadline before vital infrastructure gets attacked as 'final', calls Americans opposed to Iran war 'foolish' - saying it's all about Tehran not getting a nuke.

  • Israel kills experienced longtime head of IRGC intelligence; Iranian missile strike on Haifa residential complex kills 4.

    Despicable: Iranian Regime's Vile Move to Try to Stop Trump From Hitting Power Plants

    [RedState] Alireza Rahimi, Iran’s deputy minister of youth and sports, has called on Iranians, including youth, artists, and athletes, to form human chains at power plants across the country at 2 pm (10:30 GMT) tomorrow to denounce the U.S. bombing threats against the facilities.

    Courtesy of badanov:


    Text:

    🇺🇸🇮🇷🇵🇰 BREAKING: Iran has submitted its response to the U.S. 45-day ceasefire proposal relayed through Pakistan – IRNA

    Iran rejects a temporary ceasefire and demands the following:

    – A permanent end to the war on all theatres in the Middle East, including Lebanon and Gaza, with guarantees.

    – Implementation of a new transit protocol that recognizes Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz and allows Iran to collect tolls.

    More at the link


    Text:

    🚨 BREAKING: U.S.-Israel finalize detailed Iran strike plan

    Sources say Washington and Jerusalem have completed a coordinated strike framework, including a joint target bank and division of operational roles between the U.S. military and the IDF. The plan was finalized in talks between IDF Chief Eyal Zamir and CENTCOM leadership, aligning responses if Iran rejects a U.S. ultimatum.

    Israeli officials are pushing to prioritize energy infrastructure and national assets to maximize economic pressure on Tehran. Final approval from the White House is still pending, but preparations are complete.

    Trump: US has plan to destroy every bridge and power plant in Iran Tuesday night if no deal
    [IsraelTimes] All of Iran ‘can be taken out in one night… might be tomorrow night,’ leader warns, calling Tehran’s truce offer ‘significant’ yet insufficient; Iran: ‘Baseless threats’ by a ‘delusional US president’

    US President Donald Trump
    ...The Hero of Butler, Pennsylvania...
    on Monday expanded his threat against Iran
    ...a theocratic Shiite state divided among the Medes, the Persians, and the (Arab) Elamites. Formerly a fairly civilized nation ruled by a Shah, it became a victim of Islamic revolution in 1979. The nation is today noted for spontaneously taking over other countries' embassies, maintaining whorehouses run by clergymen, involvement in international drug trafficking, and financing sock puppet militias to extend the regime's influence. The word Iran is a cognate form of Aryan. The abbreviation IRGC is the same idea as Stürmabteilung (or SA). The term Supreme Guide is a the modern version form of either Duce or Führer or maybe both. They hate Jews Zionists Jews. Their economy is based on the production of oil and vitriol...
    to include all of the country’s power plants and bridges, as his ultimatum to make a deal ticked closer after Tehran rejected a 45-day ceasefire proposal and said it wants a permanent end to the war.

    "The entire country can be taken out in one night, and that night might be tomorrow night," Trump said. He suggested that his deadline of 8 p.m. ET on Tuesday (3 a.m. Israel time on Wednesday) was final, saying he’d already given Iran enough extensions.

    "We have a plan... where every bridge in Iran will be decimated by 12 o’clock tomorrow night, where every power plant will be out of business, burning, exploding and never to be used again, I mean, complete demolition, by 12 o’clock, and it will happen over a period of four hours if we want that to happen," he said.

    "We don’t want that," he added, noting that the US may end up helping Iran rebuild, in which case he would not want to have to reconstruct expensive infrastructure like that.

    He said Iran did not take him seriously before, leading him to order the demolition of a major bridge near Tehran last week within minutes of talks falling apart.

    "Do I want to destroy their infrastructure? No. It would take them 100 years to rebuild," he said.

    "If we left today, it would take them 20 years to rebuild their country... and the only way they’re going to be able to rebuild their country is to utilize the genius of the United States of America," he claimed.

    At an earlier White House Easter egg roll event, Trump was asked if his plans to blow up civilian bridges and power plants in Iran would constitute war crimes, and said they would not "because they [Iran] killed 45,000 people in the last month."

    The comments appeared to refer to Iran’s gunning down of thousands of protesters earlier this year amid a large-scale rebellion against the theocratic regime.

    "You know what’s a war crime? Allowing a sick country with demented leadership to have a nuclear weapon," Trump added.

    At the later presser, a news hound again pressed the president on his threat to bomb Iranian civilian infrastructure, to which the president responded by insisting that the Iranian people would be okay with such strikes.

    "They would be willing to suffer that in order to have freedom," he said, adding that Iranians are urging the US to "please keep bombing."

    Asked what his reaction would be if Iranians were to return to the streets, Trump acknowledged that doing so could well be a death sentence
    ...the barbaric practice of sentencing a murderer to be punished for as long as his/her/its victim is dead...
    , saying: "They should do it. But the consequences are great. They were told, ’If you protest, you will be shot immediately.'"

    He said earlier that Iranians live in a "violent mostly peaceful, horrible world," where "if you protest, you get shot."

    Iran’s army responded defiantly to Trump Monday night, saying the US president’s "arrogant rhetoric" on the war was not hindering the country’s soldiers.

    "The rude, arrogant rhetoric and baseless threats of the delusional US president... have no effect on the continuation of the offensive and crushing operations of the warriors of Islam against the American and Zionist enemies," said a front man for the army’s Khatam al-Anbiya central command cited by state media.

    Iran’s deputy sports minister, Alireza Rahimi, called on artists and athletes to form human chains at power plants across the country on Tuesday.

    "We will stand hand in hand to say: Attacking public infrastructure is a war crime," Rahimi said on X.

    REOPENING HORMUZ A ’VERY BIG PRIORITY’
    Asked whether he would accept Iran charging toll in the Strait of Hormuz after Tehran reopens the channel, Trump suggested the US could be the one charging such tolls.

    "Why shouldn’t we? We’re the winner. We won. They are militarily defeated," he said.

    He later appeared to back off the idea.

    "We have to have a deal that’s acceptable to me, and part of the deal is going to be that we want free traffic of oil and everything else," he said, adding that reopening the Strait of Hormuz is a "very big priority," and that it does not take much for Iran to be able to obstruct traffic in the channel.

    After the US and Israel attacked on February 28, Iran effectively closed Hormuz, a conduit for about a fifth of the world’s oil and natural gas supply. The waterway’s stranglehold on the global economy has proved a powerful bargaining chip, and Tehran is reluctant to relinquish it too easily.

    In the past, Trump has indicated that the reopening of the strait is not a necessity for US interests and that other countries can go in "and just take" the oil.

    Asked to explain his seemingly contradictory messaging from the past several days in which he has both said the war is coming to an end and has threatened to bomb Iran back to the Stone Age, Trump said it "depends" on what Iran does.

    He again recalled his Tuesday night ultimatum for Iran to accept a deal to end the war and reopen the Strait of Hormuz — a deadline that he has already pushed off twice.

    "They asked for an extension of seven days. I said, ’Give them 10 days,'" Trump said. He would go on to push it off by an additional 24 hours on Sunday.

    "I thought it was inappropriate [to attack] the day after Easter. I want to be a nice person. They have until tomorrow. Now we’ll see what happens," Trump asserted.

    "They’re negotiating, we think in good faith," Trump said of Iran.

    "We’re getting the help of some incredible countries that want this to be ended, because it affects them also," he said.

    At the earlier Easter event, Trump said that he would like to "take" Iran’s oil but will refrain from doing so because the American public wants the war to end quickly.

    "We are obliterating [Iran]... and they just don’t want... to cry ’uncle,'" Trump said. "But they will [cry ’uncle’]. And if they don’t, they’ll have no bridges, they’ll have no power plants, they’ll have no anything."

    "Unfortunately, the American people would like to see us come home. If it were up to me, I’d take the oil, keep the oil, and make plenty of money," Trump said.

    IRANIAN TRUCE PROPOSAL ’SIGNIFICANT’ BUT INSUFFICIENT
    At the Easter event, Trump also confirmed having received a proposal from Iran for a ceasefire, calling it "significant," while clarifying that it doesn’t go far enough.

    The Pak-brokered framework for ending the war proposed an immediate ceasefire, followed by talks on a broader peace settlement to be concluded within 15 to 20 days, a source aware of the proposals said.

    "They’ve made a proposal... It’s not good enough, but it’s a very significant step," Trump said.

    Iran has been "negotiating in good faith," he added, claiming that its new leaders are "not as radicalized" and that the war could "end very quickly."

    Trump has recently tried to make the argument that killing a series of leaders within the Islamic Theocratic Republic had achieved the goal of "regime change" in Iran, even though Tehran’s regime remains intact.

    "Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. They are lunatics, and you can’t put nuclear weapons in the hands of a lunatic," he said of Iran’s leaders, whom moments prior he had characterized as "much more reasonable."

    He also went on to claim that Israel would have been "wiped off the face of the earth" had he not pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal in 2015, and said the current war was "about one thing: Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon."

    "I told this to Bibi Netanyahu yesterday," he said at the White House, using the Israeli premier’s nickname.

    Trump also repeated his oft-stated bewilderment with the majority of US Jews who vote for Democratic politicians.

    "How Israel can vote for a Democrat — if you’re Jewish in New York City or any place else in this country, how you can vote for a Democrat is unbelievable because [former US president Barack Obama
    That’s just how white folks will do you....
    ] chose Iran," Trump said, appearing to conflate American Jews with Israel.

    HUNDREDS OF SOLDIERS TOOK PART IN RESCUE MISSION
    Regarding the decision to launch an operation to rescue two American airmen whose plane was shot down in Iran over the weekend, Trump revealed that some of his military advisers had not been supportive of the idea, due to the risk it would pose to those taking part.

    "Not everybody was on board," Trump said. "There [were] military people — very professional — [who] preferred not doing it."

    He clarified that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Dan Caine were not among those skeptics.

    "Somebody said, ’This was the only time it’s ever been done,'" Trump claimed. "Look at some of the helicopters, how they got hit."

    He then asked Caine how many soldiers took part in the rescue, but the Joint Chiefs chairman responded: "I’d love to keep that a secret."

    "I’ll keep it a secret, but it was hundreds," Trump said.

    "I was told that this is a very dangerous mission. They didn’t say it’s a foolish mission," he clarified.

    Hegseth, who has faced scrutiny for outspokenly blending his evangelical religious faith with military operations, also spoke at the presser, describing the rescue in explicitly Christian terms, comparing it to the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    The rescue mission came amid rising concern about the nearly six-week-long war’s effect on the global economy, including a sharp rise in fuel prices. The conflict has also hit Trump’s approval ratings and intensified anxiety among Republicans about November’s midterm elections. # id) ?>
  • Posted by Besoeker 2026-04-07 02:31|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1886 views ]  Top
     File under: Govt of Iran 

    1 Say nothing more, just do it !
    Posted by Besoeker 2026-04-07 02:38||   2026-04-07 02:38|| Front Page Top

    2 
    Posted by Grom the Affective 2026-04-07 02:40||   2026-04-07 02:40|| Front Page Top

    3 Enough talk indeed!
    Posted by Whiskey Mike 2026-04-07 04:02||   2026-04-07 04:02|| Front Page Top

    4 Mods, please clean up the mess I made. Thank you.
    Posted by Whiskey Mike 2026-04-07 04:04||   2026-04-07 04:04|| Front Page Top

    5 Done. :-)
    Posted by trailing wife 2026-04-07 04:22||   2026-04-07 04:22|| Front Page Top

    6 "Trump was asked if his plans to blow up civilian bridges and power plants in Iran would constitute war crimes, and said they would not "because they [Iran] killed 45,000 people in the last month."

    Absurd reasoning. Taking out ALL power plants (what about the nuclear ones) would kill millions.

    Even if nuclear power plants aren't hit directly, leaving the country without electricity (for a long time) would mean nuclear plants could no longer be cooled and would blow up.

    It's about time that cooler heads prevailed.
    Posted by European Conservative 2026-04-07 05:37||   2026-04-07 05:37|| Front Page Top

    7 #6 The degree of hypocrisy is staggering.
    Posted by Grom the Affective 2026-04-07 07:41||   2026-04-07 07:41|| Front Page Top

    8 Oh noes! They are going to use human shields who volunteer (at the point of a gun, no doubt) to protect their power plants!

    Let it rip. Shut them down
    Posted by Frank G 2026-04-07 07:44||   2026-04-07 07:44|| Front Page Top

    9 /\ It's about time that cooler heads prevailed.

    "Cooler heads" have prevailed since 4 Nov 1979. The situation has only grown worse, much worse in fact.
    Posted by Besoeker 2026-04-07 07:46||   2026-04-07 07:46|| Front Page Top

    10 Appeasement, the standard European response which has worked so WELL in the past.
    Posted by Chantry 2026-04-07 08:10||   2026-04-07 08:10|| Front Page Top

    11 Let's hope Alireza Rahimi gets added to the list of dead Iranian fanatics in short order.
    Posted by Chantry 2026-04-07 08:12||   2026-04-07 08:12|| Front Page Top

    12 It's almost as if Iranian Mullahs can't be reasoned with.
    Posted by Megabyses 2026-04-07 08:51||   2026-04-07 08:51|| Front Page Top

    13 Who needs Europe?
    We pay to defend them and absorb $200 billion in annual trade deficits
    Posted by Grom the Affective 2026-04-07 09:00||   2026-04-07 09:00|| Front Page Top

    14 "A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again." (Donald Trump on Truth Social)

    No comment.

    Posted by European Conservative 2026-04-07 09:14||   2026-04-07 09:14|| Front Page Top

    15 Some civilizations deserve to die. Nazi fucking Germany for example. That doesn't mean the people get wiped out. Germany still exists. Nazi Germany does not. And Europe no longer exists, you've been colonized by the muslims you used to fight off. Europe is dead. Only Europistan remains.
    Posted by Silentbrick 2026-04-07 09:40||   2026-04-07 09:40|| Front Page Top

    16 Taking out ALL power plants (what about the nuclear ones) would kill millions.

    In game theory, this is called a threat. To work, threats must be both credible and unpleasant.

    Even if nuclear power plants aren't hit directly, leaving the country without electricity (for a long time) would mean nuclear plants could no longer be cooled and would blow up.

    Blowing up a nuke plant would certainly kill it, but you can get a mission kill with a whole lot less mess and effort by simply disconnecting it from the power grid.

    Also, it is possible to shut down a nuclear reactor either slowly or in emergency scram mode using the same mechanism that allows control of the reaction rate. Over here, nuke plants have diesel-powered emergency backup generators. Without fuel, these will not run forever, but they do give you time for a controlled shutdown.
    Posted by SteveS 2026-04-07 09:47||   2026-04-07 09:47|| Front Page Top

    17 @silentbrick
    Nazi Germany wasn't a civilization.
    Posted by European Conservative 2026-04-07 10:06||   2026-04-07 10:06|| Front Page Top

    18 @Steve S.
    Even shut-down nuclear reactors need cooling.
    And no electricity (for many years to come) would mean a total breakdown of society in these days. That also means a new giant refugee crisis.
    Posted by European Conservative 2026-04-07 10:16||   2026-04-07 10:16|| Front Page Top

    19 Basically what we did to Germany by 1945. Somehow the world didn't implode in the pre-electrical times.
    Posted by Procopius2k 2026-04-07 10:57||   2026-04-07 10:57|| Front Page Top

    20 This is nice.
    So many players today!.
    Posted by Skidmark 2026-04-07 11:05||   2026-04-07 11:05|| Front Page Top

    21 And no electricity (for many years to come) would mean a total breakdown of society in these days. That also means a new giant refugee crisis.

    Yeah, it would be a big mess. Quite inconvenient. And that is the other side of a credible threat: it has to be both unpleasant for the threatened *and* something you would not normally do as a matter of course. There has to be a cost to you to make it believable. As satisfying as it might be to bomb the mullahs back to the Stone Age, it would take a lot of ordinance and we would lose a bunch of people. Best avoided if possible.

    Remember this is a negotiation over whether Iran will have nuclear weapons. The position of the United States is no way in hell will that happen. That is the goal.

    Totally off-topic: EC, I think you mentioned your company has some technology on the Artemis mission. Did we ever hear what that was?

    Posted by SteveS 2026-04-07 11:27||   2026-04-07 11:27|| Front Page Top

    22 That also means a new giant refugee crisis.

    As will the evacuation of Tehran when the water runs out, which we were told was imminent
    Posted by Frank G 2026-04-07 11:50||   2026-04-07 11:50|| Front Page Top

    23 Bad News, Guys: The New York Times Says We Lost the War — and Iran Is Now a ‘Major World Power’
    Posted by Grom the Affective 2026-04-07 12:20||   2026-04-07 12:20|| Front Page Top

    24 Iran ends peace talks as women and children form HUMAN SHIELDS at energy sites after Trump threatened the 'whole civilization will die tonight'

    Iran is officially led by Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei, appointed Supreme Leader after his father Ali Khamenei was killed in US-Israel strikes on February 28 - but he is unconscious and 'unable to be involved in any decision-making,' a fresh intelligence memo states, raising urgent questions over who is actually running Tehran.
    Posted by Skidmark 2026-04-07 12:33||   2026-04-07 12:33|| Front Page Top

    25 @SteveS
    No, you didn't, Steve...
    Posted by European Conservative 2026-04-07 12:46||   2026-04-07 12:46|| Front Page Top

    26 Totally off-topic: EC, I think you mentioned your company has some technology on the Artemis mission. Did we ever hear what that was?

    Poss toileteers are in denial.
    Posted by Skidmark 2026-04-07 12:49||   2026-04-07 12:49|| Front Page Top

    27 Striking civilian infrastructure that causes disproportionate civilian harm is a war crime under the UCMJ. They have classes in this. Anyone who follows orders to commit war crimes is a war criminal. "I was only following orders" is no excuse: the Nuremberg Principle.
    We caught a war criminal from the 1990s Bosnian unpleasantness recently.
    Posted by Ometch Untervehr3098 2026-04-07 13:03||   2026-04-07 13:03|| Front Page Top

    28 "Iran’s army responded defiantly to Trump Monday night, saying the US president’s "arrogant rhetoric" on the war was not hindering the country’s soldiers."
    If it's not hindering the IRGC thugs, why is Iran importing thugs from Iraq & Afghanistan?
    Posted by Chantry 2026-04-07 13:05||   2026-04-07 13:05|| Front Page Top

    29 ^ Less scruples about killing Iranian civilians?
    Posted by Frank G 2026-04-07 13:10||   2026-04-07 13:10|| Front Page Top

    30 We could literally wipe Iran
    Of the map in a week

    You wanna know the difference?
    With Afganistan and Iraq?

    Soldiers werent allowed to engage
    And shoot unless shot upon
    They werent allowed to do shit
    Because MUH warcrimes!

    They spend 2 decades trying to build
    Some pathetic worldview and culture
    The population never would do
    While they spend trillions on infrastructure
    And pointless endless pit investing
    In that shithole

    And it all fell apart 2 weeks
    After they left

    20 years of pathetic bullshit

    That is why you go all in
    Shoot on sight
    And exterminate them to the last one
    Of the cancer regime

    They wont be able to ellect another
    Ayatollah if all of his people are dead
    Posted by Ometch Untervehr3098 2026-04-07 13:48||   2026-04-07 13:48|| Front Page Top

    31 As an aside: I read this yesterday, and found it usefully describes my experiences conversing with various nationalities — I never had to manage anyone except a couple of wonderful Czech and Polish au pair girls, so I can’t speak to the management side of things beyond those observations Mr. Wife shared. But the section about Israelis nailed a problem I’ve been having recently with Mr. Wife, even though I am only half-Israeli and never lived there.

    How to Work in a Well-Managed American Firm
    A Direct Guide for International Professionals

    This isn't my usual territory. I write about institutions, incentives, and the gap between how systems present themselves and how they actually work. But this document came out of a conversation that kept pulling on a thread I've been sitting on for forty years — working in tech across enough organizations, countries, and hiring pipelines to notice patterns that polite professional culture doesn't name directly. I'm not an HR consultant. I'm not a DEI practitioner. I'm someone who has hired, managed, promoted, and occasionally fired people across most of the cultures described here, and watched the same failure modes play out with enough repetition to be confident they're real. Take it or leave it. It's the guide I wish someone had handed people before they walked in the door.

    Posted by trailing wife 2026-04-07 13:49||   2026-04-07 13:49|| Front Page Top

    32 ^ That's very interesting, tw. I could only offer a few anecdotes. In a galaxy far far away I was working with a Japanese company that had loaned a good bit of money to American company. After a while the American company filed a Chapter 11, which in context meant that the Japanese company would recover pennies on the dollar. The Japanese were genuinely shocked that their American counterpart would not repay the loan, no matter how many times I explained that this was a day ending in a Y in America. I think they expected the American CEO to commit seppuku.
    Posted by Matt 2026-04-07 14:19||   2026-04-07 14:19|| Front Page Top

    33 Nits make lice. War is hell. Two quotes from a general who knew how to win wars.
    Posted by Regular joe 2026-04-07 14:33||   2026-04-07 14:33|| Front Page Top

    34 Civilian shields/hostages surround power plants, clearly meant as a deterrent and PR tactic - but how about the transformer farms and the power line pylons - single point of failure isn't just the site itself, but also how it delivers product.
    Posted by NoMoreBS 2026-04-07 14:45||   2026-04-07 14:45|| Front Page Top

    35 ^^And that will make it just as dark, but not for as many years. I like it!
    Posted by Bobby 2026-04-07 14:59||   2026-04-07 14:59|| Front Page Top

    36 #27 here is the punitive articles of the UCMJ, which one(s) are you referring to?
    Posted by Procopius2k 2026-04-07 15:15||   2026-04-07 15:15|| Front Page Top

    37 How about an EMP?
    Posted by Matt 2026-04-07 16:44||   2026-04-07 16:44|| Front Page Top

    38 Anyone who refuses orders in wartime goes to the stockade.

    892. ARTICLE 92. Failure to Obey Order or Regulation
    Any person subject to this chapter who–

    (1) violates or fails to obey any general order or regulation; (2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by any member of the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the order; or (3) is derelict in the performance of his duties;

    shall be punished as a court-martial may dire
    Posted by Ometch Untervehr3098 2026-04-07 17:29||   2026-04-07 17:29|| Front Page Top

    39 Anyone who refuses orders in wartime goes to the stockade.

    There is always a high cost for those who choose principle over going along to get along. One chooses principle for the betterment of society, not for personal gain or convenience, accepting that the process will be a part of the punishment because the price in soul stuff is too high if one doesn’t.

    The people who sheltered my mother and grandparents from the Nazis risked not only their own freedom but the very lives of all associated with them, and they did so for total strangers. When I asked one of them in 2010 why she had done it, she looked at me in total incomprehension. “How could I not?” was her only answer.
    Posted by trailing wife 2026-04-07 17:52||   2026-04-07 17:52|| Front Page Top

    40 Buzz a couple throw-away drones over "The Martyrs" and see how enthusiastic they are for their Mullah/IRGC Overlords
    Posted by Frank G 2026-04-07 17:58||   2026-04-07 17:58|| Front Page Top

    41 Classic thread
    Posted by badanov 2026-04-07 18:16||   2026-04-07 18:16|| Front Page Top

    42 #38 you stipulate "Striking civilian infrastructure that causes disproportionate civilian harm is a war crime under the UCMJ."

    You failed to cite what punitive article that was said war crime. You flappingly call it a war crime without citation.
    We bombed the blazes out of German and Japanese infrastructure. It was not a war crime.
    Posted by Procopius2k 2026-04-07 18:34||   2026-04-07 18:34|| Front Page Top

    43 *head fake*
    Two week pause. Stock markets tomorrow = tumescent
    Posted by Frank G 2026-04-07 18:43||   2026-04-07 18:43|| Front Page Top

    44 Probably about time to quote good old Talleyrand: "Worse than a crime, a mistake."

    A few thoughts:

    The destruction of German cities did not make the Nazis go away. Au contraire. Only the complete occupation of Germany could do it.

    The destruction of ALL (not some= power plants in Iran would mean absolute disaster and misery not for the mullahs, but for the population that is supposed to be liberated. We'll see a sharp rise in terrorist acts and millions of refugees.

    A mortally wounded Iran could still take the whole region with it. And if that happens, the whole world economy.

    Qusquis agis prudenter agas et respice finem.
    Posted by European Conservative 2026-04-07 18:47||   2026-04-07 18:47|| Front Page Top

    45 Whiners said the same thing about the bombing of Dresden. The German people did not rise up and overthrow their government and thus deserved what they got.
    Likewise with the firebombing of dozens of Japanese cities.
    Finally, we had to use nuclear weapons. Even then they wouldn't quit! A second bomb on Nagasaki finally convinced them and they surrendered.
    How many nukes will Iran absorb before they see reason? bets are being taken in the prediction markets right now.
    Posted by Cretle Fleregum5456 2026-04-07 18:53||   2026-04-07 18:53|| Front Page Top

    46 Rising up against a brutal but efficient dictatorship is very difficult.

    The Wall fell in 1989 because the East German government showed weakness and fear, unlike the Chinese government a few months before.

    That's why the Cuban regime didn't fall in 1989. They maintained brutal control. The mullahs also do. They have nowhere to go.
    Posted by European Conservative 2026-04-07 19:05||   2026-04-07 19:05|| Front Page Top

    47 According to unreliable sources, Netflix is planning a series based on the book/movie "The Bridges at Toko-Ri". Working title is "War Crimes at Toko-Ri"
    Posted by SteveS 2026-04-07 19:27||   2026-04-07 19:27|| Front Page Top

    48 The problem is insufficient force.
    If we have to use nuclear weapons then that's what we'll reluctantly do.
    Someone suggested using neutron bombs which kill people but leave infrastructure intact. That sounds like a good compromise.
    Posted by Cretle Fleregum5456 2026-04-07 19:33||   2026-04-07 19:33|| Front Page Top

    49 ^
    1) Nuke weapons are unnecessary. It's going fine;
    2) My (deceased) Uncle who worked at Lawrence Livermore said "All nukes are neutron bombs, depending on yield and desire"
    Posted by Frank G 2026-04-07 19:36||   2026-04-07 19:36|| Front Page Top

    50 The destruction of German cities did not make the Nazis go away.

    Production of war related materials dropped. The summer of '44 with the allied landing and the Soviet offensive in the east saw the inability to cover both. Army Group Center was destroyed lacking the means to maneuver out of the Soviet offensive.
    Posted by Procopius2k 2026-04-07 20:29||   2026-04-07 20:29|| Front Page Top

    51 I always wondered why Nagasaki was chosen for the second bomb. I found out the other day while watching history videos that Nagasaki was the home of Christianity in Japan. It was an extra little "fuck you" to those genocidal monsters.
    Posted by Ometch Untervehr3098 2026-04-07 20:29||   2026-04-07 20:29|| Front Page Top

    52 "A civilization, extinguished, survives." New Fukushima 50 tagline?
    Posted by Slomomble Glomoting5645 2026-04-07 20:35||   2026-04-07 20:35|| Front Page Top

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