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South Dakota Governor Bans Transgender Girls From Sports Teams By Executive Order

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-03-31 03:29|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11168 views ] Top

#1 OK, so why are conservatives so upset with Kristi Noem?
This sounds like common sense:
"Only girls should play girls' sports," Noem tweeted Monday evening.

What's wrong with this logic?
"Given the legislature's failure to accept my proposed revisions to HB 1217, I am immediately signing two executive orders to address this issue: one to protect fairness in K-12 athletics, and another to do so in college athletics."

Posted by Uneash Noodleman8495 2021-03-31 05:26|| 2021-03-31 05:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Cut the chase - make it Cervix and Prostate separation. I want to be entertained by the crazies claiming its not a distinction and identify the Marxist judges sitting on the bench.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-03-31 07:29|| 2021-03-31 07:29|| Front Page Top

#3 Noodle, Noem's initial changes to the law would have left college women completely unprotected, apparently bowing to NCAA and local business pressure.

Posted by Mercutio 2021-03-31 08:06|| 2021-03-31 08:06|| Front Page Top

#4 She's done. All the extra flopping around she does now just cements it.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-03-31 09:11|| 2021-03-31 09:11|| Front Page Top

#5 I can't figure this one out. Too many twists and turns. Perhaps someone could do a short executive summary.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-03-31 09:13|| 2021-03-31 09:13|| Front Page Top

#6 Same here.

Posted by swksvolFF 2021-03-31 10:26|| 2021-03-31 10:26|| Front Page Top

#7 #5,6 La Noem panders to businesses but responds to public outrage.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-03-31 10:34|| 2021-03-31 10:34|| Front Page Top

#8 ^Wants to eat her cake & eat it.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-03-31 10:35|| 2021-03-31 10:35|| Front Page Top

#9 Your one-liners, and your known opinion of Noem, don't address the initial reports of the draft's wording being incomplete way before the outrageous outrage.

There is a curiosity that, if she did back down because of corporate interests, she so hated by the covidians that she still stood against the world propaganda machine Sturgis will Kill 10 million crown, then what is that lever of power, that part of the machine which should be the topic of conversation.

Posted by swksvolFF 2021-03-31 11:19|| 2021-03-31 11:19|| Front Page Top

#10 ^Just keep watching her.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-03-31 11:21|| 2021-03-31 11:21|| Front Page Top

#11 Noem is suspect now. Better than many out there in governor land, but, still....

Posted by Clem 2021-03-31 11:24|| 2021-03-31 11:24|| Front Page Top

#12 And no, I don't like executive orders.

Even when I agree with them, they are technically legally only a suggestion. Maybe a suggestion with force behind hit, but a suggestion nonetheless.

Posted by swksvolFF 2021-03-31 11:25|| 2021-03-31 11:25|| Front Page Top

#13 The main problem with executive orders is they can be ervoked by a strok of the next executive's pen. They provide an easy target for any executive's opponent in an election campaign: "On day one, I will revoke that..."

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-03-31 11:37|| 2021-03-31 11:37|| Front Page Top

#14 Exactly.

Or, like last year when our governor took the podium and banned Easter, a joint State House/Senate statement told her to shove her XO up her cat loving ass. Law enforcement said har you come lock the doors. She came back, nah not a dictate just a suggestion.

Now this type of activity outside the setting of nifty referee uniforms and a well funded advertising campaign complete with woke baubles is, actually technically, criminal. Peeping Tom, Fraud, Sexual Assault, Battery, all have to be accepted in order to validate men playing in the women's bracket. Sexual discrimination, lying under oath, racketeering, complacency in a criminal enterprise are secondary charges after the first grouping.

Posted by swksvolFF 2021-03-31 11:53|| 2021-03-31 11:53|| Front Page Top

#15 Peoples' minds seem to be made up. I was just looking for an after action report.

Posted by swksvolFF 2021-03-31 11:56|| 2021-03-31 11:56|| Front Page Top

#16 Just keep watching her.

We will.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2021-03-31 12:51|| 2021-03-31 12:51|| Front Page Top

#17 i send her an aauuummm each night at bedtime.

Posted by irish rage boy 2021-03-31 13:15|| 2021-03-31 13:15|| Front Page Top

#18 She's done - Gov is as far she goes. Whatever her plan/thinking was, she completely botched her explanation, then flip flopped out of nowhere. Next!

Posted by Rex Mundi 2021-03-31 18:31|| 2021-03-31 18:31|| Front Page Top

#19 All of you dissing Noem on this are basically full of shit. The initial bill was badly worded, flawed legally, and would have been likely blocked instantly, and eventually ruled against. You're whining about her for symoblism, and ignoring substance.

The orders she put out are separated FOR A GOOD REASON. The high school protections are much more likely to stay in state courts and be upheld. The College part is going to run afoul of legal challenges instantly under Title IX FEDERAL law, and run into all kinds of obstacles in FEDERAL (more liberal) court.

Stop thinking like progressives and leading with your emotions and a very shallow abount of intelligence, and instead look at ALL the facts and context, and see which one is more effective in the end: hint -- its not the crap bill the legislature drew up knowing it would be toseed.

You, purists, are idiots if you think otherwise.

Posted by These Forkbeard7574 2021-03-31 19:15|| 2021-03-31 19:15|| Front Page Top

#20 One addition: the Legislature needs to do its job: draw up an iron tight law for state use and subject only to state law, and another one for colleges and universities that are subject to federal laws.

If Noem doesn't sign those better bills, THEN tear her up. Republicans, and notably, conservatives lately, are stupid far too frequently. Its like not realizing the difference between Collins and Murkowski in terms of ability to actually elect a more conservative Senator, and going after both, when Murkowski should be the one targeted, and Collins tolerated.

Posted by These Forkbeard7574 2021-03-31 19:20|| 2021-03-31 19:20|| Front Page Top

#21 From the National Public Radio (so we know which way it leans before reading) article:

After signaling support — even excitement — for the bill, Noem declined to sign it over concerns the law would not survive legal challenges.

At a time when feelings are running white hot on both sides, creating robust legislation that will survive the gauntlet of unfriendly judges on the way to an uncertain US Supreme Court is important. Quickly getting weak laws on the books will result in Supreme Court precedents that will make it much harder to defend any other attempts. But yes, the way she handled it will make any play for the presidency harder, should she go for it in 2024. But I would prefer she had more than one term as governor under her belt before running for another office; she has spent all her previous political career in first the South Dakota House of Representatives and then in the U.S. House of Representatives, and it’s clear all those political campaigns and two years as governor have not prepared her to handle this kind of hostile scrutiny. She needs seasoning, which may or may not be enough when the time comes.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-31 19:40|| 2021-03-31 19:40|| Front Page Top

#22 As I understand it:
1) fake-girls on girl's high school teams: NO
2) fake-girls on girl's college teams: YES

The rationale for the difference being that college athletic associations would ban championship bowl games in the state and the chamber of commerce crowd would lose money.

Posted by SteveS 2021-03-31 20:32|| 2021-03-31 20:32|| Front Page Top

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