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2026-06-17 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

'We don't owe you anything': Israel is preventing the US from making peace with Iran

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Posted by badanov 2026-06-17 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1899 views ] Top

1 It pisses me off Trump is demanding it anyway. Iran is in no position to demand anything and not allowing Israel to destroy Hezbollah is the wrong move. Time to put Iran into real pain if you want real peace.

Posted by Silentbrick 2026-06-17 00:20|| 2026-06-17 00:20|| Front Page Top

2 Iran has fired drones at commercial ships in Hormuz strait since MoU's signing, source tells 'Post'

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2026-06-17 01:29|| 2026-06-17 01:29|| Front Page Top

3 If Hezbollah is such a critical resource that it impedes completion of the US/Iran conflict settlement then perhaps targeting Lebanon is more appropriate than civilian services infrastructure in Iran.

Posted by Skidmark 2026-06-17 02:01|| 2026-06-17 02:01|| Front Page Top

4 If Hezbollah is such a critical resource that it impedes completion of the US/Iran conflict settlement then perhaps targeting Lebanon is more appropriate than civilian services infrastructure in Iran.

That's not how US Mid East policies work, Skid.
US, periodically, comes in with brilliant ideas conceived by the best, most highly educated, American minds.
c.f.: the crisis of 1956, Lebanon 1983, WOT*, the current Iran conflict.
Then, for some strange reason things don't go as expected (really puzzling), and US makes some peace/ceasefire treaties and departs - leaving the mess for Israel to deal with.
In the interim, all decent people can complain about greedy, shameless Jews and their brazen exploitation of the American taxpayer.

*Conservatives always blame Iran on Obama. But, actually, Iran is the fault of Bush II - who turned Iran's only natural enemy into Iranian province (he was told not to play with democracy by both Saudi King and Israeli PM, but who the f*ck are they?)

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2026-06-17 03:12|| 2026-06-17 03:12|| Front Page Top

5 This is comforting:

Trump: Iran memorandum ‘not final,’ we’ll be ‘back to dropping bombs on their heads’ if talks fail

US President Donald Trump reiterates that the memorandum of understanding with Iran is “not final” and warns that Washington could resume military strikes against Iran if “they don’t behave,” adding that a deal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz was unavoidable.

Referring to the preliminary agreement with Tehran expected to be physically signed on Friday, Trump reiterates that “it’s not final – it’s a memorandum of understanding,” and that Washington’s military threat remains in place.

“It’s a memorandum of understanding. If I don’t like it, if they don’t behave, we’ll go right back to dropping bombs right smack in the middle of their head, okay? Because they’ve misbehaved for 47 years,” he warns, speaking alongside Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi at the G7 summit in France.

Trump says the agreement is “a great deal for a lot of reasons, but number one by far — 99.9% of it — is that they will never have a nuclear weapon.”

“The Strait [of Hormuz] is going to be opening. It’s already partially opened. It’s going to be opening up soon in full over the next day or two,” Trump says.

Despite Washington’s blockade of Iranian ports and earlier threats to use force to reopen the vital shipping lane, Trump suggests a negotiated arrangement on Hormuz was unavoidable: “The alternative would be a worldwide depression. You know, the stupid people want to have a worldwide depression, and they’re stupid people. So you can only go so far. You drive somebody into the ground, and a lot of bad things happen… the Strait would never open, because they don’t like floating billion-dollar ships up and down a strait when there are rockets flying over them and mines all over the place… It wouldn’t be open for a long time,” he says.

He adds that he will discuss the Iran deal more at a press conference at 4 p.m. local time (5 p.m. Israel time).

Posted by trailing wife 2026-06-17 08:58|| 2026-06-17 08:58|| Front Page Top

6 No surprise.

This has been the standard procedure for decades, since 9/11 at the latest.

The Western political class decided to accept the paradigm of appeasement and submission.

The West can defeat adversaries in conventional war and then surrenders for political reasons.

If "we" win then "we" decide to surrender and lose.

If the other side wins they don't surrender.

“a great deal for a lot of reasons, but number one by far — 99.9% of it — is that they will never have a nuclear weapon.”

Even if Trump is sincerely committed to "never" he'll be out in less than three years.

The airstrikes did kick the can down the road but the post mou deference to the "strong horse" might very well drag the same can up the road again.

When Trump rescued Khamenei in June of 2025 he was rewarded with a fatwa. What will be his reward for the mou?

Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2026-06-17 20:20|| 2026-06-17 20:20|| Front Page Top

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