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2025-05-02 Government Corruption
US Judge limits Trump-Era migrant deportation order from Guantanamo
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#1 Congress better get off it's ass and deal with this.
Posted by Silentbrick 2025-05-02 00:49||   2025-05-02 00:49|| Front Page Top

#2 ^Congress-persons are part of the ruling class.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-05-02 00:54||   2025-05-02 00:54|| Front Page Top

#3 A U.S. federal judge in Massachusetts...claims jurisdiction in a foreign land. Wonder if the 'potential treatment' is any less that normal American citizens in Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit.....
Posted by Zorba Glons1885 2025-05-02 07:22||   2025-05-02 07:22|| Front Page Top

#4 .....ooops, was me.
Posted by Procopius2k 2025-05-02 07:22||   2025-05-02 07:22|| Front Page Top

#5 If I was the DOJ I would tell the judge it is not part of his jurisdiction and to fuck off.
Posted by DarthVader 2025-05-02 10:05||   2025-05-02 10:05|| Front Page Top

#6 You mean like an Eritrean truck driver who killed five in and hurt many in a Texas traffic cock up, IIUC he missed a turn and put on the brakes - on an Interstate - only getting a $7000 bond?
Posted by swksvolFF 2025-05-02 11:14||   2025-05-02 11:14|| Front Page Top

#7 Guantanamo base is under US jurisdiction.
Posted by European Conservative 2025-05-02 11:15||   2025-05-02 11:15|| Front Page Top

#8 The dude who only knew enough English to ask for a tip, who drove me across Big City by only looking at his direction giver, meanwhile cutting people off and going the wrong way on one way streets.
Posted by swksvolFF 2025-05-02 11:27||   2025-05-02 11:27|| Front Page Top

#9 #7 Still doesn't mean a judge can decide on national policy.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-05-02 11:34||   2025-05-02 11:34|| Front Page Top

#10 US Jurisdiction, yes. In the federal circuit the judge is a part of, no.
Posted by DarthVader 2025-05-02 11:47||   2025-05-02 11:47|| Front Page Top

#11 So which judges can hear these cases?
Posted by European Conservative 2025-05-02 15:09||   2025-05-02 15:09|| Front Page Top

#12 No judges. It's policy.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-05-02 15:19||   2025-05-02 15:19|| Front Page Top

#13 Just policy? It doesn't work this way.
Posted by European Conservative 2025-05-02 15:31||   2025-05-02 15:31|| Front Page Top

#14 ^Only in the real world.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-05-02 15:32||   2025-05-02 15:32|| Front Page Top

#15 Policy doesn't trump rule of law. The Fifth Amendment doesn't apply only to US citizens.

It clearly says:

[...] nor shall any person [...] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.
Posted by European Conservative 2025-05-02 15:58||   2025-05-02 15:58|| Front Page Top

#16 Could all be done in an afternoon.

"A fair and speedy trial, then hung."
Posted by Besoeker 2025-05-02 16:35||   2025-05-02 16:35|| Front Page Top

#17 #15 Go read some history books.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-05-02 17:16||   2025-05-02 17:16|| Front Page Top

#18 Unlike say, AfD members?
Posted by Silentbrick 2025-05-02 18:16||   2025-05-02 18:16|| Front Page Top

#19 Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but under W's tenure (and successors such as Obama) wasn't Guantanamo declared a Military District other than a Civilian District so there could be different procedures for those who were detained under military circumstances? Argue that if you will, but that would exclude a Civilian Judge from interjecting into a Military Jurisdiction?
Posted by swksvolFF 2025-05-02 20:50||   2025-05-02 20:50|| Front Page Top

#20 And what difference is there, if there is any, between a Civilian Court and Military Court?
Posted by swksvolFF 2025-05-02 20:56||   2025-05-02 20:56|| Front Page Top

#21 Having lost the last war, the Germans released jurisdiction over American military on their bases in Germany. The Italians changed sides in 1943 and retain jurisdiction on the installations in their borders. So, what American federal district court exercised jurisdiction on those German installations? There was none.
Posted by Procopius2k 2025-05-02 21:50||   2025-05-02 21:50|| Front Page Top

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