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2024-07-15 Fifth Column
Trump assassination, Day 3: Cop confronted Trump shooter but RETREATED when gunman pointed rifle at him
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Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-15 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11145 views ]  Top

#1 U.S. Secret Service says it does not plan to make any changes to 'operational security plans' for the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee this week.

Republican National Convention security tightens following Trump assassination attempt
Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-15 03:24||   2024-07-15 03:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Skidmark -
Good, well presented & useful Info.
You must have spent hours collecting.

Thank-you
Posted by NN2N1 2024-07-15 05:54||   2024-07-15 05:54|| Front Page Top

#3 Any news on the....manifesto? Shooter's rainbow socks? New employment posting at shooter's senior resident place if employment ?
Posted by Besoeker 2024-07-15 07:05||   2024-07-15 07:05|| Front Page Top

#4 ^#4
Maybe the Deep State learned from their previous mistake of refusing to release a school shooter's Manifesto.

Now the official storyline is "There Never was a Manifesto."

I guess, they also learned delaying the shooter's name, gives them time for the Social Media to clean up or rewrite the shooter's postings.

Posted by NN2N1 2024-07-15 08:33||   2024-07-15 08:33|| Front Page Top

#5 President Donald Trump has authorized this account as a place for donations to the supporters and families wounded or killed in today’s brutal and horrific assassination attempt. All donations will be directed to these proud Americans as they grieve and recover. May God bless and unite our nation.

$3.72M so far in donations to the Victims

50,600+ donators as of 8:57am 7-15-24

A few Top Donors:
The Heritage Foundation $50,000
Anonymous $50,000
American Hartford Gold $50,000
UFC $50,000
Dana White $50,000
Alex Brola $50,000
Kid Rock $50,000
Ben Black $36,000
Vivek Ramaswamy $30,000
The Scaramucci Family $25,000
Justin Zabel $25,000
Adam Sinn $25,000
John Shahidi $25,000
Nicole Shanahan $20,000
EL Gerson $20,000
Daily Wire $15,000
Alex Campos $10,000
Jeanne Siegel $10,000
TODD RICKETTS $10,000

I interestingly name listed, even RFK's Lawyer-Wife Nicole Shanahan has donated.
Posted by NN2N1 2024-07-15 08:57||   2024-07-15 08:57|| Front Page Top

#6 Comments by Trump:

"I’m not supposed to be here, I’m supposed to be dead."

He described the Secret Service agents that rushed at him like "linebackers"

"another one eliminated the gunman with "one shot right between the eyes."

"The agents hit me so hard that my shoes fell off, and my shoes are tight,"

"images of him raising his fist and being surrounded by Secret Service agents in the seconds following the shooting, said, "A lot of people say it’s the most iconic photo they’ve ever seen. Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture," he added.

"I just wanted to keep speaking, but I just got shot."

"A lot of places … you hear a single shot, everybody runs. Here there were many shots and they stayed," Trump said. "I love them. They are such great people."

(And, I might add, when Trump stood back up after after having an ear shot off, the MAGA crowd gave him a standing ovation.)
Posted by Whavick Scourge of the Apes9857 2024-07-15 09:00||   2024-07-15 09:00|| Front Page Top

#7 'Explosive devices' found in Trump gunman's car

Poss simply Tannerite targets inflated by media word choice.
Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-15 09:48||   2024-07-15 09:48|| Front Page Top

#8 Local police officer came face-to-face with would-be assassin but backed away

Public Safety officer on crowd control duty?
Reasonable to not expect a confrontation.
Not Uvalde.
Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-15 09:51||   2024-07-15 09:51|| Front Page Top

#9 thx Skidmark
Posted by Lord Garth 2024-07-15 09:51||   2024-07-15 09:51|| Front Page Top

#10  Local police officer came face-to-face with would-be assassin but backed away

If I understand the timeline correctly, right after the officer ducked down things jumped off and the shooting started, so not a lot of time to do anything.

Looking at the geography of the site, it took a bit of planning and forethought to pull this off. You need to pick a good firing position, you need a ladder to get up on the roof, and somehow get the rifle through security or pre-position it in a way that won't be discovered in a (presumed) pre-event sweep.

tl;dr: a 20 year old without formal training managed to outfox security professionals. Makes you wonder if he had some help.
Posted by SteveS 2024-07-15 10:29||   2024-07-15 10:29|| Front Page Top

#11 Makes you wonder if he had some help.

Two sniper teams were trained on building where shooter aimed at Trump

How Oswaldian.
Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-15 10:39||   2024-07-15 10:39|| Front Page Top

#12 Makes you wonder if he had some help.

Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

So far from what I have seen of the police and USS response, it was a complete shit show and an example of how NOT to secure a site, place security and extract the VIP. Several people who privately do this for a living are extremely critical of their performance.

But, I'm also not saying that wasn't intentional to put the Jr Varsity squad out there deliberately.
Posted by DarthVader 2024-07-15 10:41||   2024-07-15 10:41|| Front Page Top

#13 It's not hard to out fox security professionals if you're sneaky enough and determined enough.
Posted by badanov 2024-07-15 11:05||   2024-07-15 11:05|| Front Page Top

#14 video of shooter crawling up roof
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1812847506180489350
Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-07-15 12:23||   2024-07-15 12:23|| Front Page Top

#15 The EFFBEYE needs to focus on the ladder, it is the lynchpin of the planning for the shot. Where did it come from, when was it placed there, was is ignored by the security sweep, if not who placed it and how.
Its hard to imagine it was just dumb luck the shooter noticed it at the last minute.
Posted by NoMoreBS 2024-07-15 12:46||   2024-07-15 12:46|| Front Page Top

#16 Shame on SS for relying on the unidentified "officer" most likely a parking lot security guard. I heard him referred elsewhere as a "township" officer, most likely untrained other than for directing traffic at events.
Posted by illeagle 2024-07-15 12:54||   2024-07-15 12:54|| Front Page Top

#17 Policeman climbing ladder may not be correct; may have been climbing another policeman's shoulders, and thus had no means of doing other than observe (only on tv could cops climb with one hand or/and gun in their teeth.) And then he fell backward when confronted with a rifle at short range....
Posted by Glenmore 2024-07-15 14:31||   2024-07-15 14:31|| Front Page Top

#18 Either incompetence or the feds were in on it. Not so long ago, I'd scoff at conspiracies, but what have we had for the past 10 years?
Posted by Regular+joe 2024-07-15 15:22||   2024-07-15 15:22|| Front Page Top

#19 The Daily Mail has a photo of a ladder leaning up against the back of the building behind some large bushes.
Posted by trailing wife 2024-07-15 15:25||   2024-07-15 15:25|| Front Page Top

#20  There is no excuse for the lack of a police lookout on top of this roof, also the lack of a lookout on top of the nearby water tower which overlooks the shooter's location. It will be interesting to later read how these omissions are dealt with.

No news about where this "ladder" was. Photos of the area omit this AFAICT. It's location is vital. A vast number of roofs like this one already have ladders installed to make maintenance possible.

Some accounts of the minutes leading up to the shooting refer to the shooter being seen on the ground carrying a long gun. This was before he was seen climbing on the roof.

The whole venue seems far too risky a spot for a Trump rally.
Posted by Gromble+Dribble4342 2024-07-15 15:30||   2024-07-15 15:30|| Front Page Top

#21 
The rooftop where a gunman shot at former President Donald Trump during a campaign rally was identified by the U.S. Secret Service as a potential vulnerability

Anyone with a basic outline of the venue could have used Google Earth to identify this vulnerability. From looking at the media, many did that very shortly after the incident, the diagrams/photos match what Google Earth produces.
Posted by Gromble+Dribble4342 2024-07-15 15:34||   2024-07-15 15:34|| Front Page Top

#22 
a 20 year old without formal training

It's very hard to prove a negative like this statement. Unless a lucky fact pops up, we may never know.
One thing we could possibly learn is how much range time Crooks got at the sports club he belonged to.
Posted by Gromble+Dribble4342 2024-07-15 16:06||   2024-07-15 16:06|| Front Page Top

#23 a 20 year old without formal training

I am assuming (yeah, I know) that if he did a stint in the infantry or worked in law enforcement, that we would have heard about it by now. (training as a cook does not count!)
Posted by SteveS 2024-07-15 16:27||   2024-07-15 16:27|| Front Page Top

#24 (training as a cook does not count!)

Guess you haven't eaten at Waffle House, 2am.
Posted by Skidmark 2024-07-15 18:12||   2024-07-15 18:12|| Front Page Top

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Posted by badanov 2024-07-15 20:59||   2024-07-15 20:59|| Front Page Top

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Posted by badanov 2024-07-15 22:23||   2024-07-15 22:23|| Front Page Top

#27 Trump looked emotional and subdued at the convention tonight. I really believe he was thinking of the man who was killed at the rally Saturday.
Posted by Whavick Scourge of the Apes9857 2024-07-15 23:24||   2024-07-15 23:24|| Front Page Top

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