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2024-04-15 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Hamas thought they'd conquer Israel, had plans for how to divvy it up

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Posted by Galactic+Coordinator+and+Company6935 2024-04-15 06:52|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11143 views ] Top
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#1 Set as today’s headline.

Posted by trailing wife 2024-04-15 11:29|| 2024-04-15 11:29|| Front Page Top

#2 "Indeed, Abu Zaydeh is well aware that for the past two years the Hamas leadership had been talking about implementing "the last promise" (alwaed al'akhir) – a divine promise regarding the end of days, when all human beings will accept Islam. Sinwar and his circle ascribed an extreme and literal meaning to the notion of "the promise," a belief that pervaded all their messages: in speeches, sermons, lectures in schools and universities. The cardinal theme was the implementation of the last promise, which included the forced conversion of all heretics to Islam, or their killing."

Posted by Old Salty 2024-04-15 12:49|| 2024-04-15 12:49|| Front Page Top

#3 This article is really "History"! Well worth the read!!!

Posted by Old Salty 2024-04-15 12:51|| 2024-04-15 12:51|| Front Page Top

#4 ^They're all psychotic & honorless (the Arabic word translated as "honor" actually means "face"). It all started with Mohammad claiming orders from an angel to break his word.

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2024-04-15 13:02|| 2024-04-15 13:02|| Front Page Top

#5 The difference between religions - Christianity - thou shall not kill - Islam - unless you do as we say, we will kill you!

Posted by Blackbeard Sluter1122 2024-04-15 13:03|| 2024-04-15 13:03|| Front Page Top

#6 I don't take lessons in Christianity from non Christians.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-15 13:05|| 2024-04-15 13:05|| Front Page Top

#7 For some reason that didn’t stay as the day’s headline. Clearly Fred will be a while longer debugging this new iteration of Rantburg’s program but once he’s done it’ll be smooth and lovely.

I thought that was the key paragraph, too, Old Salty. And the previous bits go partway to answer Besoeker’s question from yesterday when he posted that video: Why did not Israel know in advance?

I asked Abu Zaydeh whether he had ever thought that Hamas was capable of perpetrating horrors like those of October 7. "If you had asked me," he replied, "I would have answered like any Israeli intelligence officer: It's inconceivable that this is what they're planning. I would not have believed that they would not take into account what would happen to them on the day after."

He adds, "There were many statements by Hamas before October 7, and we in Fatah would laugh. For example, someone from Hamas wrote on Facebook: 'Remember, in another few months the al-Qassam men will get to Ashkelon, enter the jail and free all the prisoners.' That was the atmosphere. It was hard for us to grasp that they believed that with 3,000, 5,000 or even 10,000 armed militants they would conquer Israel. That's insane. But when you believe that God is sending you to do his bidding, there's no one to argue with. The signs were out there the whole time."

Posted by trailing wife 2024-04-15 13:05|| 2024-04-15 13:05|| Front Page Top

#8 It's nice to be reasonable. It's not so nice to assume everyone else is.

Posted by M. Murcek 2024-04-15 13:11|| 2024-04-15 13:11|| Front Page Top

#9 The big problem is that these Hamas fanatics were just as delusional as Taliban fanatics who dreamed about reconquest, handing out a shameful defeat to the US and NATO, and as rulers of Afghanistan being courted by world powers and institutions and receiving ample amounts of danegeld.

Deterrence matters and the loss of deterrence has consequences..

Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2024-04-15 19:16|| 2024-04-15 19:16|| Front Page Top

#10 Here is my official 2 state solution for Israel and HamAss.

Israel will live and have all of Gaza.

HamAss will be dead and stink for a time before being relegated to the pile of dead people we make fun of.

Also, anyone who SUPPORTS HamAss in word or deed, IS HAMASS and gets the same treatment.

Posted by Silentbrick 2024-04-15 20:00|| 2024-04-15 20:00|| Front Page Top

#11 #10 One should also not forget that it is the the political objective of Hamas as part of the Muslim Brotherhood to turn the entire world into an Islamic slave empire.

"It is the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated, to impose its law on all nations and to extend its power to the entire planet."
Hassan al-Banna, Founder of the MB

Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2024-04-15 20:08|| 2024-04-15 20:08|| Front Page Top

#12 Link that works.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-04-05/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/hamas-actually-believed-it-would-conquer-israel-and-divided-it-into-cantons/0000018e-ab4a-dc42-a3de-abfad6fe0000

Posted by EMS Artifact 2024-04-15 20:22|| 2024-04-15 20:22|| Front Page Top

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