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2023-09-10 Home Front: Politix

30 fighting days left for Ukraine's offensive - US Army chief

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Posted by Skidmark 2023-09-10 03:07|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 I'm not going to read his analysis - unless it's written in Pashto.

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-09-10 07:32|| 2023-09-10 07:32|| Front Page Top

#2 I have a question: Where is the Russian offensive? Is it content with the status quo, or has it really run out of gas and is now content just to level Ukraine's cities?

Posted by Jerens Black9355 2023-09-10 09:19|| 2023-09-10 09:19|| Front Page Top

#3 ^Why should they attack as long as Ukrainians come to them to be killed? After WWII they spend more than a decade hunting Banderista guerrillas. This time around Russians figure "Let all the Ukrainians willing to fight die in attacking our fortifications (half the male population of military age has already left the country). And then we can have peace, without having to conqueer Ukraine = having to take care of this bunch of retards again like we did for 300 years."

*I'm afraid Russians consider Ukrainians to be

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-09-10 09:35|| 2023-09-10 09:35|| Front Page Top

#4 You ask why they should attack? Because Putin promised to overrun the fascist state in the first few hours of the war. So, what happened Grom? We already know the Ruble is taking a beating. Is it possible that the vaunted Russian arms production is really on a par with that in the USA? That the Russians can't take the Ukraine because they can't?

Posted by Jerens Black9355 2023-09-10 10:47|| 2023-09-10 10:47|| Front Page Top

#5 You ask why they should attack? Because Putin promised to overrun the fascist state in the first few hours of the war.

So, it's better to do than to yap.

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-09-10 10:59|| 2023-09-10 10:59|| Front Page Top

#6 Ukrainians won't stop. The offensive will switch to lighter vehicles and more infantry, which thy have been doing to get across the Russian minefields.

But it is important for the Ukrainians to reach Tokmak. For the surfaced roads and to cut Russian access to the railroad that supplies Zaporozhye and Donetsk.

Posted by Enver Slager8035 2023-09-10 12:19|| 2023-09-10 12:19|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm not going to read his analysis - unless it's written in Pashto.

Heh. I have not read the article yet, but if he is talking about the start of the fall rains, he has a point.

Posted by SteveS 2023-09-10 12:40|| 2023-09-10 12:40|| Front Page Top

#8 ^Cheering for our team is as American as apple pie. International relations are, just a bit, more complicated.

Here is my prediction. In the 2024 election Democrats will be running as an anti-war (in Ukraine) party, and American involvement will be attributed to Republicans.
Ukraine itself will be divided into NovaRussia (Donetsk, Luhansk, and seaboard - conqueered by Russia [along with Crimea] from the Turks under Ekaterine the Great) - member of Russian Federation. Malorussia (Ukraine proper) - "independent" country, and Gallitzia (Austro Hungarian until WWI, Polish between wars, Soviet after WWII - seat of Ukrainian nationalism) - Polish protectorate.
Alternatively: WWIII with nukes, and China dominated postwar World.

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-09-10 12:48|| 2023-09-10 12:48|| Front Page Top

#9 #8 responds to #6.

Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-09-10 12:48|| 2023-09-10 12:48|| Front Page Top

#10

Posted by Cholutle Thrans9751 2023-09-10 13:04|| 2023-09-10 13:04|| Front Page Top

#11 Novorussia map.

Alternatively: WWIII with nukes, and China dominated postwar World.

Thank you for admitting how weak Russia is. The Kremlin knows full well that US and NATO will destroy the Russian military on first use of a nuke. Without force Russia will break apart into many pieces. Certainly, Chinese domination (more like annexation) of Russia is in order.

Posted by Enver Slager8035 2023-09-10 13:13|| 2023-09-10 13:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Novorussia map.

Posted by Enver Slager8035 2023-09-10 13:14|| 2023-09-10 13:14|| Front Page Top

#13 Update to #7 - First paragraph from TFA is:
Ukraine has little more than 30 days left of fighting before the weather hinders its counter-offensive, the top-ranking US military officer says.

So far, so good. Top man in question is Gen Mark Miley. But wait, there is more! After some generic bloviation about the course of the war, in the last para we get:
Gen Milley ruled out entering politics himself, and said he would "run for best grandad" when he retires in a few weeks.

Ah, Miley is retiring! And soon. I have joked that one of the reasons for having a war now was that a lot of high-level NATO staff are nearing retirement age and as a going away present, we wanted to give them one last shot at the Russians. Sure, it's not the the Fulda Gap, but we finally get to go toe to toe with Rooskies even if only by proxy. At least I thought it was a joke.

Because Putin promised to overrun the fascist state in the first few hours of the war.

This meme keeps popping up but I do not believe Putin ever said this.
(Corrections welcome! No hearsay please, Putin's actual words)
As near as I can tell, the source for this idea is our own General Miley. This is either a disinformation play or really bad analysis that confuses the distraction in the north with the real center of gravity in the south.

Seriously, are you telling me that the Russians, famous as chess players and takers of well-planned dumps have been improvising for 500-some days after the unsuccessful play at Kiev? Bah, I say!

Posted by SteveS 2023-09-10 18:25|| 2023-09-10 18:25|| Front Page Top

#14 Gen Milley ruled out entering politics himself, and said he would "run for best grandad" when he retires in a few weeks.

Russia media bringing the funny!

Oh...BBC. Uhg.

Posted by swksvolFF 2023-09-10 19:27|| 2023-09-10 19:27|| Front Page Top

#15 Because Putin promised to overrun the fascist state in the first few hours of the war.

It was Lukashenka's boast to take Kiev in 3 days.
Putin did boast he could take Kiev in 2 weeks. That was back in 2014.

Posted by Enver Slager8035 2023-09-10 21:32|| 2023-09-10 21:32|| Front Page Top

#16 Gen Milley ruled out entering politics himself, and said he would "run for best grandad" when he retires in a few weeks.

Wait. I thought he was gonna marry Admiral Levine and live happily ever after.

Posted by Enver Slager8035 2023-09-10 21:34|| 2023-09-10 21:34|| Front Page Top

#17 RIA Novosti accidentally published article saying Ukraine was defeated in 2 days. The mafiosi running Russia thought they could take Kiev in 2 days and the story was already in the can.

Posted by Enver Slager8035 2023-09-10 22:06|| 2023-09-10 22:06|| Front Page Top

#18 RE: #17
The actual RIA Novosti article is titled The Advent of Russia and the New World It appears to be a geopolitical discussion about the emerging relationships between Russia, the "Atlanticists", and Europe.

Posted by SteveS 2023-09-10 22:38|| 2023-09-10 22:38|| Front Page Top

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