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2022-06-28 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
At least 13 dead after Russian missiles strike Ukrainian mall crowded with 1,000 shoppers
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Posted by Fred 2022-06-28 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11135 views ]  Top
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#1 How this story will turn out is precisely the reason why I won't source news about this war just from western and western sponsored Ukrainian sources.

The line of bullshit coming from the Ukrainians about this incident is very thick.
Posted by badanov 2022-06-28 04:43||   2022-06-28 04:43|| Front Page Top

#2 And the line of bullshit from the Russians is very fluid and odiferous.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-06-28 06:08||   2022-06-28 06:08|| Front Page Top

#3 What no baby formula factory?
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-06-28 07:39||   2022-06-28 07:39|| Front Page Top

#4 Death toll from 'war crime' Russian bombing of packed Ukrainian mall rises to at least 18 as desperate families search for missing loved ones - but rescuers warn of little hope for more survivors
Posted by Skidmark 2022-06-28 07:58||   2022-06-28 07:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Skid, those photos certainly dispute the "analysis" linked in another article. I wonder if anyone in Russia (except those Putin can absolutely trust) has seen them.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-06-28 09:34||   2022-06-28 09:34|| Front Page Top

#6 Skid, those photos certainly dispute the "analysis" linked in another article. I wonder if anyone in Russia (except those Putin can absolutely trust) has seen them.

The Mail article said the nearby factory was hit. It was the target.
Posted by badanov 2022-06-28 09:56||   2022-06-28 09:56|| Front Page Top

#7 More lies and bullshit from the prime propaganda outlet.

A much better description is at moonofalabama.org. It includes Ukrainian television's video of the incident on the factory grounds, photos showing the direct hit hit on the enormous munitions factory and Google maos' satellite imagery showing the huge factory as immediately adjacent to the tiny mall.
Posted by Chesney Throger2743 2022-06-28 11:24||   2022-06-28 11:24|| Front Page Top

#8 And the Ukrainians' bullshit isn't convincing anyone in the Biden Administration any longer.

Biden officials privately doubt that Ukraine can win back all of its territory
By Natasha Bertrand, CNN

(CNN)White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian "victory" -- adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.

"Mission Accomplished!
Leading from behind!
Peace With Honor!
Adding by Subtracting!
Gimme Money!
Ten Percent For The Big Guy!"



Posted by Chesney Throger2743 2022-06-28 11:32||   2022-06-28 11:32|| Front Page Top

#9 A lot of people here would dig seeing Russia lose. I don't think anyone here wants civilians to suffer.

Nobody here has any reason to lie.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-28 11:35||   2022-06-28 11:35|| Front Page Top

#10 Of course I want Putin to lose. I want him dead in a ditch and Russia joining the civilized world for a change.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-06-28 11:40||   2022-06-28 11:40|| Front Page Top

#11 The Russians did not strike a mall. They hit and destroyed an adjacent, enormous machining plant that is ideal for repairing or preparing heavy weaponry and that sits at a central distribution point in Ukraine.

This is another monstrous lie designed to keep up the con that Ukraine has not lost the war. Even little Natasha Bertrand's Pentagon and CIA whisperers are not pushing this stupid, obvious lie.
Posted by Chomoting Tingle6957 2022-06-28 11:51||   2022-06-28 11:51|| Front Page Top

#12 Just "next door" to the "baby milk factory." Gotcha.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-28 11:52||   2022-06-28 11:52|| Front Page Top

#13 
Posted by Chomoting Tingle6957 2022-06-28 11:53||   2022-06-28 11:53|| Front Page Top

#14 Thanks M2...
Posted by badanov 2022-06-28 11:55||   2022-06-28 11:55|| Front Page Top

#15 Sorry. Can't find my rubber nose. And I don't use gurgle. Calling me a clown certainly brings me around to you point of view.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-28 11:56||   2022-06-28 11:56|| Front Page Top

#16 
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-06-28 12:51||   2022-06-28 12:51|| Front Page Top

#17 
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-06-28 12:54||   2022-06-28 12:54|| Front Page Top

#18 Makes me think of the shopping center strike from some 8 weeks ago which was roundly rebuffed.

Way back when, friends and I would go to Haunted Houses around Halloween. Not crummy one, but put together by people who *Love* their job, multi story refitted buildings. Anyways, one had a stunt where an employee would run out and attack another employee, like a ticket taker. Maybe shift was up, don't know. Thing is, it sure set the mood.

I think of that everytime I read a story about a VIP visiting Kyeeeev and there are 'explosions' and the VIP gets to play serpentine.
Posted by swksvolFF 2022-06-28 13:43||   2022-06-28 13:43|| Front Page Top

#19 Of course I want Putin to lose. I want him dead in a ditch and Russia joining the civilized world for a change.

Civilized? You mean like the Biden family laundering money through a Ukrainian energy company? That kind of civilized? The kind of world where politicians rig elections, promote critical race theory and sexual confusion, take bribes from Chinese communists and allow their countries to be flooded with fentanyl? You must really hate Russia if that's what you want for them.

Nobody here is trying to tell you that Putin is a good guy. But I will assert that Biden is just as bad.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-06-28 14:48||   2022-06-28 14:48|| Front Page Top

#20 I will also assert that this war is just as much if not more Biden's fault than it is Putin's.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-06-28 14:50||   2022-06-28 14:50|| Front Page Top

#21 Our beloved president is a different kind of bad than their beloved president. Not a better kind of bad, just different.

Abu Uluque, Vladimir Putin is supposed to be super clever after all those years moving up the ranks in the KGB. Falling for the nonsense coming out of Joe Biden’s mouth is a rookie mistake.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-06-28 14:59||   2022-06-28 14:59|| Front Page Top

#22 Falling for the nonsense coming out of Joe Biden’s mouth is a rookie mistake.

I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean Biden's insistence on expanding NATO into Ukraine? Or, maybe, believing Biden when he said NATO wouldn't put nuclear armed cruise missiles on the Russian border with Ukraine? I don't think Putin believed that one.

After all these years I admit I still don't know much about Putin except that he is a ruthless dictator and that deliberately provoking him is not a good idea. But I do believe I know all I need to know about Biden.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-06-28 15:24||   2022-06-28 15:24|| Front Page Top

#23 Years of the Nuland / Vindman show must have been a factor in Vlad's decision loop. That was happening well before Bidet was prexident.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-28 17:19||   2022-06-28 17:19|| Front Page Top

#24  I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean Biden's insistence on expanding NATO

When he said that he wouldn’t be bothered if Russia went in, just before President Putin invaded.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-06-28 22:00||   2022-06-28 22:00|| Front Page Top

#25 Biden said that!?!?
Posted by Jatle Sinatra9653 2022-06-28 22:16||   2022-06-28 22:16|| Front Page Top

#26 Seriously, Biden said that?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-06-28 22:26||   2022-06-28 22:26|| Front Page Top

#27 Something to that effect, yes. I don’t recall his exact words.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-06-28 22:53||   2022-06-28 22:53|| Front Page Top

#28 To be fair, the sense wasn’t that Russia should conquer the whole country, but just nibble a bit along the edges. So one can imagine President Putin’s shock when it all blew up in his face.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-06-28 22:55||   2022-06-28 22:55|| Front Page Top

#29 Yeah, well, even I know that whenever Biden speaks he's either lying or blithering absolute nonsense.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-06-28 23:06||   2022-06-28 23:06|| Front Page Top

#30 I agree with Badanov.

It's been non-stop rubbish propaganda from the Ukrainians (and helped along by the media).

By the way, the Ukrainians would not have happened to have an artillery battery near this mall now, would they?
Posted by DooDahMan 2022-06-28 23:33||   2022-06-28 23:33|| Front Page Top

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