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2021-04-28 Afghanistan
Afghanistan: US Will not Provide Air Support after Withdrawal
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Posted by trailing wife 2021-04-28 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11145 views ]  Top

#1 ....I'd wonder what kind of bird the last chopper out of Kabul will be, but I don't give the Current Administration enough credit to get people out in time.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2021-04-28 05:59||   2021-04-28 05:59|| Front Page Top

#2 Chalk up additional failing grades in history and geopolitics. Perhaps 'fail' was actually the desired end state.

Give it some time. Come back in 1000 years and have another look at Afghanistan. Until then, hold off on the Rule of Law, democracy, COSCO, Target, Six Flags initiatives.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-04-28 06:12||   2021-04-28 06:12|| Front Page Top

#3 The idiots forgot -

1) we bounce the rubble of Germany and Japan and reduced their populations to the point they knew they lost
2) only then did we try 'nation building'
3) both were imbued with ("racists") Western institutions (read non-Islamic) in the post war governments and society

All of which escaped the attention of our 'best and brightest' trying to imitate their fathers' work.

Now you grasp the concept of 'going Mongol' in such places.
Posted by Procopius2k 2021-04-28 08:28||   2021-04-28 08:28|| Front Page Top

#4 ^(a) Civilization cannot be imposed from outside.
(b) It cannot even maintained for long in its places of origin.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-04-28 08:48||   2021-04-28 08:48|| Front Page Top

#5 #4 ... why do we have to 'impose civilization'? we should have killed bin laden and forgot it. He killed 3000 americans we should have bombed kabul and islamabad to the tune of 6000 dead.
Posted by irish rage boy  2021-04-28 09:15||   2021-04-28 09:15|| Front Page Top

#6 why do we have to 'impose civilization'?

Ask Bush.

kabul and islamabad to the tune of 6000 dead.

You're thinking Regan, not Bush.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-04-28 09:33||   2021-04-28 09:33|| Front Page Top

#7 in retrospect we should have stealthily supported the Soviet U's occupation of Afghanistan

failing that and post 9-11, we should have subsidized Uzbek and Tagik forces to occupy the north of Afghanistan and after having the SpForces chase Al Q out the first time in early 2002, bribed various tribes in the South of Afghanistan to fight each other.

I can't blame the Bush 43 Admin entirely for this as their policy was driven by the best and the brightest in the CIA and the DIA.
Posted by Lord Garth 2021-04-28 09:38||   2021-04-28 09:38|| Front Page Top

#8 /\ I can't blame the Bush 43 Admin entirely for this as their policy was driven by the best and the brightest in the CIA and the DIA.

DIA, not so much. The Klingon's backyard is private property. The first word in DIA is 'Defense'... which is an troublesome, acrimonious term of reference to most career Klingons.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-04-28 09:53||   2021-04-28 09:53|| Front Page Top

#9 
To end the Afghan conflict all you had to do was bomb Quetta. I cannot believe for a second that all the bright lads and laddesses in Virginia didn't already know that.
Posted by Dron66046 2021-04-28 10:20||   2021-04-28 10:20|| Front Page Top

#10 Other than killing bin Laden we had accomplished what we needed to by early mid '02. The rest seems in retrospect to be some sort of demented, expensive apology tour for punishing them in the first place.
Posted by Cesare 2021-04-28 10:21||   2021-04-28 10:21|| Front Page Top

#11 Ref #9: Bomb Quetta Pakistan.

I wholeheartedly agree. I believe we've been down the cross-border, insurgent sanctuary road before. Didn't end well there either. Removing 'head of snake' scenario as it were.

A strong diplomatic 'wave off' of kinetic action against Pakistan likely came from the Chinese....(just a guess). We certainly would not have wanted to alienate our Chinese friends.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-04-28 10:37||   2021-04-28 10:37|| Front Page Top

#12 Some of the folks at Langley probably knew their real target was Quetta. But the wonderful career idiots at Foggy Bottom and in the upper offices in Langley made it their priority to avoid that and make sure they have an endless war for their budgets and power.

Those who took their oath seriously are in the "End it now" fast and hard group. Those who are in it for power, i.e. most of the Swamp, are the ones in power that keep the forever war going because it's great for their class and career.

After all, who needs diplomats of the only thing to negotiate is "surrender or die"? Who needs agents and operatives when you can shortcut the whole process with direct actions.
Posted by These Forkbeard7574 2021-04-28 11:27||   2021-04-28 11:27|| Front Page Top

#13 I just hope the terps and those who helped have a plane ticket in hand and are selling everything now and putting the money in a western bank.

Its going to get ugly. Jimmy Carter ugly.
Posted by These Forkbeard7574 2021-04-28 14:06||   2021-04-28 14:06|| Front Page Top

#14 "But we will continue supplying ammunition."?
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-04-28 14:30||   2021-04-28 14:30|| Front Page Top

#15 For all of you too young to remember the Bay of Pigs, here it is again! The first time, of course, was tragedy, but this will indeed be farce.
Posted by Tom 2021-04-28 15:22||   2021-04-28 15:22|| Front Page Top

#16 Ending it just like the demoncrats did in Vietnam.
Posted by DarthVader 2021-04-28 15:37||   2021-04-28 15:37|| Front Page Top

#17 -Puts on Chris Farley hat-

Remember that time when McCain's Heroes were forming an anti-Assad team, and NATO=USA was going to do air strikes because of a "chemical attack" and then Kerry opened his big mouth about Assad turning in his chemical weapons would prevent that, and Team Assad agreed 15 seconds later, and McCain's Heroes were in the attack, without air support?

That was awesome.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-04-28 15:37||   2021-04-28 15:37|| Front Page Top

#18 Someone call Orbital.
Posted by Skidmark 2021-04-28 16:10||   2021-04-28 16:10|| Front Page Top

#19 Didn't they say about the same thing about South Vietnam?
Posted by CrazyFool 2021-04-28 18:40||   2021-04-28 18:40|| Front Page Top

#20 Does this mean those cute little A-29 Super Tucanos are going to be showing up on eBay?
Posted by SteveS 2021-04-28 20:39||   2021-04-28 20:39|| Front Page Top

#21 The A-29's will have the "French Battle Rifle" description on Ebay
Posted by These Forkbeard7574 2021-04-28 22:24||   2021-04-28 22:24|| Front Page Top

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