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10 Killed In Shooting At Colorado Supermarket UPDATE: by ISIS sympathizer

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Posted by badanov 2021-03-23 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11136 views ] Top
File under: Devout Moslems

#1 1. Blamed on white supremacy
2. blamed on "assault weapons"
3. More gun control
4. More government surveillance over us

Posted by DarthVader 2021-03-23 00:05|| 2021-03-23 00:05|| Front Page Top

#2 And, prior to all this news:
Boulder becomes epicenter of fight against criminal justice reform
Employees harassed to the point of quitting. Windows broken. Merchandise stolen. And, again and again, the perpetrators free to return to the scenes of their crime.

At Tuesday’s city council meeting, a half-dozen speakers during the open comment period shared story after story of how crime had impacted their downtown businesses...
SB21-62 was introduced in the Colorado Senate in February; it passed 3-2 out of the Senate Judiciary Committee earlier this month. It has two significant parts; the first would effectively end cash bail for misdemeanors and other non-violent crimes...
Part of the problem with public perception of SB62 stems from ACLU assertions that COVID-related jail closures have not correlated with an increase in crime. The group maintains that, statewide, crime has remained relatively flat.

Local law enforcement have major issues with that data. Their own suggests precipitous increases in property and violent crimes...

Posted by Thineger Sproing6704 2021-03-23 01:05|| 2021-03-23 01:05|| Front Page Top

#3 ^ your link returns error msg, 'URL can't be shown'

Posted by Slutch Phavitch5971 2021-03-23 01:14|| 2021-03-23 01:14|| Front Page Top

#4 /\ Please try this link.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-03-23 01:40|| 2021-03-23 01:40|| Front Page Top

#5 Boulder, CO
#1 in Best Places to Live for Quality of Life

Posted by Thineger Sproing6704 2021-03-23 02:01|| 2021-03-23 02:01|| Front Page Top

#6 /\ Please try this link.

You’re good, Besoeker!

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 02:08|| 2021-03-23 02:08|| Front Page Top

#7 Boulder's about as left-wing as a white mountain city can get.

Wonder how they're going to pin this one on Trump and White Supremacy

Posted by Cherese Flurong2617 2021-03-23 02:16|| 2021-03-23 02:16|| Front Page Top

#8 /\ "Residual Trumpism"

Posted by Bobby 2021-03-23 07:44|| 2021-03-23 07:44|| Front Page Top

#9 Wonder how they're going to pin this one on Trump and White Supremacy

Images show a stocky, bearded, balding and barefoot white looking guy being led away by the police. They'll find a way.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2021-03-23 07:57|| 2021-03-23 07:57|| Front Page Top

#10 no wounded?
May say something about shooting experience.

Posted by Xyz 2021-03-23 09:06|| 2021-03-23 09:06|| Front Page Top

#11 stocky, bearded, balding and barefoot

Barefoot suggests nutter or drugs to me, but lets await official reports.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 10:28|| 2021-03-23 10:28|| Front Page Top

#12 The Daily Mail has video and photos: Not just barefoot, but wearing only his beard and dark boxer briefs while there is still snow on the ground. No name or reason why he was shooting people yet.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 10:40|| 2021-03-23 10:40|| Front Page Top

#13 shooter identified as ~~al-muzz~~ 21-year-old Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-03-23 11:19|| 2021-03-23 11:19|| Front Page Top

#14 ^If the guy in the pic 21, I'm Chief Rabbi of Israel. Chief Sephardic Rabbi.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-03-23 11:30|| 2021-03-23 11:30|| Front Page Top

#15 Prosobiac just tweeted: Biden has been briefed the Colorado shooter had ISIS sympathies, per WH official
His name Ahmad Al-Issa notice how they didn't release his name until today.

Posted by Jan 2021-03-23 11:37|| 2021-03-23 11:37|| Front Page Top

#16 Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa was the shooter, according to FOX News. Guess this need to be moved to WOT....

Posted by 49 Pan 2021-03-23 11:47|| 2021-03-23 11:47|| Front Page Top

#17 61 days. That's didn't take long before Democrats are in power and domestic islamic terrorism restarts.

Maybe the NBC News will reclassify Alissa as a white ~~devil~~ ~~hispanic~~ transsexual.

Posted by Sheba Phavimble6636 2021-03-23 11:47|| 2021-03-23 11:47|| Front Page Top

#18 They are more interested in pushing gun control using this shooting instead of uncovering more info on shooter. Hickenlooper yesterday started in on gun control before victims names were even known.
If only one person in that store had a concealed carry they could have taken him out.
Ahmad from Syria, could he have been upset with Bidens attack on Syria a few short weeks ago?

Posted by Jan 2021-03-23 11:51|| 2021-03-23 11:51|| Front Page Top

#19 Moved to War on Terror. I also set this as today’s headline, replacing Daniel Pearl’s killer moving back to a Pakistani safehouse.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 11:51|| 2021-03-23 11:51|| Front Page Top

#20 From the Daily Beast, linked by M. Murcek’s NY Post article:

Ali Aliwi Alissa, the suspect’s 34-year-old brother, told The Daily Beast that authorities searched his house all night after the shooting.

Alissa described his brother as “very anti-social” and paranoid, adding that, in high school, he would describe “being chased, someone is behind him, someone is looking for him.”

“When he was having lunch with my sister in a restaurant, he said, ‘People are in the parking lot, they are looking for me.’ She went out, and there was no one. We didn’t know what was going on in his head,” Alissa said, admitting that he believes his brother is mentally ill.

That sounds like paranoid schizophrenia to me,

Could the police have stripped him if they feared a suicide belt?

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 12:01|| 2021-03-23 12:01|| Front Page Top

#21 We have a Democrat in the White House so Operation Chaos is back. They'll be shooting up brothels, grocery stores, schools, any target rich environment. The more casualties, the better to bring about a ban on AR-15s and other weapons with high capacity magazines but also to justify more restrictions on your rights and freedom.

But how did an obvious nut job like Ahmad get his hands on such a weapon anyway? Somebody drop the ball somewhere along the line? Hmmm? Like, accidentally on purpose?

We need an investigation!

Posted by Abu Uluque 2021-03-23 12:03|| 2021-03-23 12:03|| Front Page Top

#22 Hated Trump and supported ISIS.

Press will still spin this as Trump's fault and he dog whistled a white supremist.

Posted by DarthVader 2021-03-23 12:05|| 2021-03-23 12:05|| Front Page Top

#23 I call BS
They had no information and then now all of the sudden they have all this info from his brother of his mental illness?
Not covering his links to ISIS and being from Syria?
IMHO they want to push crazy instead of links to ISIS for gun control.
Obviously all shooters like this are crazy but to not report his connections to ISIS is a big part to exclude to push their favored narrative.

Posted by Jan 2021-03-23 12:12|| 2021-03-23 12:12|| Front Page Top

#24 Jack Posobiec @JackPosobiec·2m 1374393217844580365

Early information from a national security agency suggests Boulder shooter planned to target the Trump rally in Colorado Springs, Feb 2020, but decided to wait until the next one on March 13 in Denver but it was cancelled due to COVID, per WH official

Posted by Sheba Phavimble6636 2021-03-23 12:15|| 2021-03-23 12:15|| Front Page Top

#25 Early information from a national security agency suggests Boulder shooter planned to target the Trump rally in Colorado Springs, Feb 2020, but decided to wait until the next one on March 13 in Denver but it was cancelled due to COVID, per WH official

That is not paranoid schizophrenia, that is 100% pure Islamic Jihad.

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2021-03-23 12:21|| 2021-03-23 12:21|| Front Page Top

#26 Sheba,
Holy crap, I was at that Colorado Springs Trump Rally!

Posted by Jan 2021-03-23 12:25|| 2021-03-23 12:25|| Front Page Top

#27 Boulder shooter planned to target the Trump rally in Colorado Springs, Feb 2020

Sudden Jihad Syndrome it is, then. I suppose we should be grateful that the lockdown prevented such attractive large gatherings, resulting in only ten innocents being murdered when he couldn’t wait any longer.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 12:26|| 2021-03-23 12:26|| Front Page Top

#28 @#12 - SOP for police to strip him down for SVEST.

Posted by Bangkok Billy 2021-03-23 12:29|| 2021-03-23 12:29|| Front Page Top

#29 I searched the miscreant’s name, and the first thing that popped up was a brand new Wikipedia page. It looks like the authorities were not thinking a mere nutter:

Up to fifteen different agencies responded to the incident, including the Jefferson County SWAT, the FBI, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and local police departments.[20] A fire department ladder truck was used to get a SWAT team onto the roof.[21] At least three medical helicopters were summoned to a staging area at nearby Fairview High School.

The article is all in on nutter instead of jihadi, quoting the Daily Beast article quoting the brother, and nothing about the family being immigrants from Syria.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 12:32|| 2021-03-23 12:32|| Front Page Top

#30 Way too much to recap here, but there's a hit parade of lefties messing their pants on twitter being pointed up by multiple posts at Rantingly. Lefties were of course sure it Whitey shooting the place up, now they have pivoted to gun grabbing narrative. As far as the shooter? "Nothing to see here - now..."

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-03-23 12:38|| 2021-03-23 12:38|| Front Page Top

#31 the FBI

...guess he was on their 'radar' like Hasan and the Boston duel.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-03-23 13:04|| 2021-03-23 13:04|| Front Page Top

#32 It’s tough being a lefty when reality is so very real, M.

Going back to the Daily Mail article I linked in comment #12, while they are holding the line at only identifying the miscreant as unadorned Ahmad Alissa, they give the very quick timeline of events:

TIMELINE AND 911 DISPATCH CALLS
2.49pm: Police scanners pick up first reports of the shooting.

The frantic callers describe a white gunman firing at people in the parking lot.

2.59pm: Officer Eric Talley, one of the first on the scene, is killed

3.04pm: SWAT teams arrive.

They find two people dead in the parking lot and one at the entrance of the store

Over the radio scanner, cops are heard yelling: 'Shooter inside! He just shot at us twice!'

Another said: 'Officer down inside the building'

3.21pm: Police stop reporting that they're being shot at.

It is around this time that the man is seen being led out of the store in boxer shorts

Were the fifteen agencies expecting problems? Half an hour from first call to resolution is almost unbelievable.

Separately, the Sun is on our boy like tan on brown rice, with lots of happy photos from before The Day. Key bits:

THE alleged Boulder shooter was reportedly paranoid and posted about racist Islamophobes before "killing 10 people."

Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, 21, has been charged after rampaging through a grocery store with an AR-15-style rifle, leaving 10 dead.

According to a Facebook page, that appeared to be Ahmad's, he was "born in Syria 1999" before he "came to the USA in 2002."

The 21-year-old would post regularly on Facebook, including sharing the hashtag "NeedAGirlfriend" and sharing memes about video games.

He also made a claim that "racist Islamophobic people" were "hacking my phone" and stopping him from having a "normal life."

Ahmad also shared a video that's caption claimed it showed a "corrections officer turn off his body cam before repeatedly punching an inmate with a mental health condition," which he caption: "This is not okay."

His school, Arvada West High School, confirmed to The Sun that Alissa was a student from March 2015 until he graduated in May 2018.

"Jeffco Public Schools and the Board of Education are saddened by the tragic event that took place in Boulder," the school said.

"We share the heartbreak of the families, coworkers, and friends of the victims and of the Colorado community that again faces another senseless act of violence."

NBC’s Pete Williams said on MSNBC that his federal sources said there is no indication that the shooting was an act of terror or a hate crime.

Herold said that the suspect Alissa from Arvada suffered a "through and through" wound to his leg and officials confirmed that he was in hospital before being brought to jail later today.

Witnesses said a man in tactical gear was silent as he carefully picked off his victims with a rifle in the parking lot before moving inside the store.

“He just came in and started shooting,” one shopper told The Denver Post.

Another said the gunman “let off a couple of shots, then was silent, and then he let off a couple more. He wasn’t spraying.”

He said: “I probably heard 30 shots. It was just pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 13:08|| 2021-03-23 13:08|| Front Page Top

#33 Whoops! Premature postulation. The Sun

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 13:11|| 2021-03-23 13:11|| Front Page Top

#34 Denver Post:

In 2017, Alissa, then 18, attacked a classmate at Arvada West High School, according to an affidavit filed in the case. He punched the classmate in the head without warning, and when the boy fell to the ground, Alissa continued to punch him. The classmate suffered bruises and cuts to his head, according to the affidavit.

Witnesses told police they didn’t see or hear any reason for Alissa to attack the classmate. Alissa told officers that the classmate “had made fun of him and called him racial names weeks earlier,” according to the affidavit.

He was convicted of misdemeanor assault in 2018 and was sentenced to two months of probation and 48 hours of community service.

Arvada Police Detective Dave Snelling confirmed Tuesday the local department had at least two interactions with Alissa over the past several years including a case of criminal mischief. The details on that case were not immediately available.

Snelling would not say whether local police had received any warnings or complaints about Alissa recently, however, and instead deferred the question to the FBI.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 13:16|| 2021-03-23 13:16|| Front Page Top

#35 It’s tough being a lefty when reality is so very real

Not snark, per se, but TW gets my vote for concise and trenchant observation of the day.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-03-23 13:19|| 2021-03-23 13:19|| Front Page Top

#36 Not fit the "white supremacist terror" narrative?

No prob. Biden will now order US flags to be raised to the finial again. Sorry for the confusion.

Posted by Sheremp Tingle4789 2021-03-23 13:26|| 2021-03-23 13:26|| Front Page Top

#37 #31 the FBI
...guess he was on their 'radar' like Hasan and the Boston duo

Any smart jihadi now understands the best way to dupe our FBI these days is to pay a beard to go kidnap Gaga's dogs

Posted by Sholuck Whusosing2436 2021-03-23 13:33|| 2021-03-23 13:33|| Front Page Top

#38 That is not paranoid schizophrenia, that is 100% pure Islamic Jihad.

Both can result in the same behaviour, Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589. And schizophrenia can lead to conversion to Islam, or concentration on the violent jihad side of things, which recommends the same actions the illness demands.

We see the same problem among Black Bloc shock troops — currently calling themselves Antifa and Black Lives Matter. Many visibly suffer from disordered thinking, and an overlapping set are habitually criminal in their behaviour, including spouse and child abuse, mugging, fighting, theft, and destruction. All behaviours resulting from uncontrolled impulses.

SOP for police to strip him down for SVEST.

My learning for today, Bankok Billy.

Hated Trump and supported ISIS.

I suppose if he wanted to shoot up a Trump rally last February, hating Trump is a reasonable assumption, DarthVader. It occurs to me to wonder why he didn’t transfer his need to kill to an Antifa “mostly peaceful” riot during the lockdown year — lots of people closely packed in the dark would have led to a much larger death toll and a delayed response before the police dared become involved.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 13:37|| 2021-03-23 13:37|| Front Page Top

#39 When are we going to see Congress act against "incitement" of such people by irresponsible media outlets and political figures?
/s

Posted by Fat Bob Phinese9942 2021-03-23 13:39|| 2021-03-23 13:39|| Front Page Top

#40 Biden says he “won’t speculate” as to what happened in Colorado.

That all but confirms it’s Islamic terrorism.

H/T Raheem Kassam

Posted by Jan 2021-03-23 13:54|| 2021-03-23 13:54|| Front Page Top

#41 Sleeper?

Posted by Angstrom 2021-03-23 13:57|| 2021-03-23 13:57|| Front Page Top

#42 So is Nancy going to deploy the National Guard around the grocery store?

Posted by Matt 2021-03-23 14:05|| 2021-03-23 14:05|| Front Page Top

#43 “American”

Boulder grocery store shooting suspect Ahmad Alissa, 21 of Arvada, CO, is charged with ten counts of first degree murder. He came to the US from Syria at age 3 and is an American citizen. He was shot through the leg but now stable. pic.twitter.com/L63SToGhFl
— Aaron Katersky (@AaronKatersky) March 23, 2021

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 14:14|| 2021-03-23 14:14|| Front Page Top

#44 Didn't Mayorka say just last week that Jihadi terror was over?

Posted by Unosh Hupinelet8756 2021-03-23 14:19|| 2021-03-23 14:19|| Front Page Top

#45 or like Byron's savage Assyrian:

The Assyrian came down like the wolf on the fold,
And his cohorts were gleaming in purple and gold;
And the sheen of their spears was like stars on the sea,
When the blue wave rolls nightly on deep Galilee.

Posted by Cluter Crerese9063 2021-03-23 14:20|| 2021-03-23 14:20|| Front Page Top

#46 Wonder what Pres. Harris will do? Maybe she'll surprise and unleash her nasty prosecutor inner-b!tch. Or maybe not.

Posted by Wholulet Ebboluling9496 2021-03-23 14:22|| 2021-03-23 14:22|| Front Page Top

#47 That is not paranoid schizophrenia, that is 100% pure Islamic Jihad.
Sure is hard to tell the difference.

Posted by Glenmore 2021-03-23 14:30|| 2021-03-23 14:30|| Front Page Top

#48 He was convicted of misdemeanor assault in 2018 and was sentenced to two months of probation and 48 hours of community service.

Again I ask, how in the hell did he get his hands on an assault rifle?

Posted by Abu Uluque 2021-03-23 14:34|| 2021-03-23 14:34|| Front Page Top

#49 Unexpectedly: President Joe Biden mulls executive actions on gun violence

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-03-23 14:39|| 2021-03-23 14:39|| Front Page Top

#50 So a nutter/muzzie in the commie stronghold of Boulder can get a gun - one that it appears was a EBR (Evil Black Rifle) and manage to kill 10 and wound none (??? nobody except maybe a trained sniper is that deadly, even with a rifle, without going around for kill shots) in a grocery store. Are Boulder grocery stores gun free zones? Does no one there get concerned with muzzies running around with EBRs - would not want to profile...? Does no one in said store have means or will to shoot back? Around here I would estimate 10% of the people in our grocery store (non gun-free zone) would be ready and willing to defend.

Posted by Glenmore 2021-03-23 14:41|| 2021-03-23 14:41|| Front Page Top

#51 No witnesses (so far) have claimed he yelled Allah Akbar or any of the common sayings which leads me to believe he was a nut who happened to be Muslim and not a jihadi.

Posted by ruprecht 2021-03-23 15:51|| 2021-03-23 15:51|| Front Page Top

#52 I saw a movie a few years ago where only the police and the government had guns - Shindler’s List.

Posted by Bobby 2021-03-23 15:57|| 2021-03-23 15:57|| Front Page Top

#53 Known wolf. From the Sun article linked above:

Law enforcement officials also told the outlet [the New York Times] that Ahmad was known by the FBI because he was linked to another individual under investigation by the bureau.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 16:37|| 2021-03-23 16:37|| Front Page Top

#54 Immigrant family. M.E..

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-03-23 16:37|| 2021-03-23 16:37|| Front Page Top

#55 Does anyone have a source link to his ISIS views?

Posted by Woodrow 2021-03-23 16:58|| 2021-03-23 16:58|| Front Page Top

#56 ruprecht, if he did, I lack the confidence it would be reported, especially if they are going to push the Guns Make People Crazy angle.

Posted by swksvolFF 2021-03-23 17:07|| 2021-03-23 17:07|| Front Page Top

#57 All the victims were white.
All this racial black and white garbage needs to stop, is it possible people watching CNN hates whites due to their reporting?

Posted by Jan 2021-03-23 17:30|| 2021-03-23 17:30|| Front Page Top

#58 Biden sez executive order to immediately ban numerous types of weapons being crafted.

Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2021-03-23 17:45|| 2021-03-23 17:45|| Front Page Top

#59 executive order to immediately ban numerous types of weapons

Federal lawsuits immediately to follow. It won’t stand.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-03-23 18:18|| 2021-03-23 18:18|| Front Page Top

#60 Was his weapon semiautomatic, or full semiautomatic?

Inquiring minds wanna know.

Posted by badanov 2021-03-23 19:08|| 2021-03-23 19:08|| Front Page Top

#61

Posted by badanov 2021-03-23 19:09|| 2021-03-23 19:09|| Front Page Top

#62 Somewhat related re: national security.

N. Korea Fires Short-Range Missiles, Challenging Biden

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2021-03-23 19:19|| 2021-03-23 19:19|| Front Page Top

#63 Again I ask, how in the hell did he get his hands on an assault rifle?

Read it again -- MISDEMEANOR assault. Not a felony, not prohibited.

Now, if the two of them had been lovers, that would have been a domestic abuse case, THEN he'd have been prohibited.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2021-03-23 20:12|| 2021-03-23 20:12|| Front Page Top

#64 N. Korea Fires Short-Range Missiles, Challenging Biden

Meh. Musk is on course to out-range them this week.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2021-03-23 20:13|| 2021-03-23 20:13|| Front Page Top

#65 #60 - Snark O' The Day - Moderator Division

Posted by Frank G 2021-03-23 21:26|| 2021-03-23 21:26|| Front Page Top

#66 Lucky AOC was able to get out alive.

Posted by Slappy 2021-03-23 22:51|| 2021-03-23 22:51|| Front Page Top

#67 If Biden talks gun control the GOP should respond with questions about FBI background checks because something doesn't add up. His brother says he's crazy and yet he still got weapons recently?

Posted by ruprecht 2021-03-23 23:12|| 2021-03-23 23:12|| Front Page Top

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