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Gay wedding cake: "Narrow" Victory for Religious Rights

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Posted by Deacon Blues 2018-06-04 10:29|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top

#1 Two of the court's four liberals, Stephen Breyer and Elena Kagan, joined the five conservative justices in the ruling authored by Justice Anthony Kennedy.

Leaving, I guess, Ruth and Sonya with the progressive vote.

Posted by Bobby 2018-06-04 10:57|| 2018-06-04 10:57|| Front Page Top

#2 It was Ruth and Sonya representing the progressive view.

7-2 is a narrow victory? What's a slam-dunk?

Posted by JohnQC 2018-06-04 11:05|| 2018-06-04 11:05|| Front Page Top

#3 This is definitely headline of the day material. Bless all those who voted for Donald Trump last November, and all those who could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton despite loathing Mr. Trump. Bless Senator Mitch McConnell for refusing to consider Supreme Court nominations at the end of President Obama’s term, then prioritizing President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, and bless President Trump for putting up the approvable Neil Gorsuch for the job. Finally, bless Justices Breyer, Kagan, and Kennedy, for their votes.

Posted by trailing wife 2018-06-04 11:14|| 2018-06-04 11:14|| Front Page Top

#4 If I remember right, they were ruined and ended up having to close their business. Did someone set up a legitimate gofundme page or something? Maybe I'll donate something.

As for private business, AFAIAC, they don't have to cater to anyone they don't want to, and they should pay the price or reap the rewards for whatever their decisions are in that regard. Am I right? Do they have to install handicapped bathrooms even? Some businesses don't even have a public bathroom.

Posted by gorb 2018-06-04 11:17|| 2018-06-04 11:17|| Front Page Top

#5 Narrow victory my ass. It was a complete invalidation of the leftard attempt to make people bend to their will against their own.

Fuck the fascists.

Posted by DarthVader 2018-06-04 11:23|| 2018-06-04 11:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Religious rights over Liberal Tolerance Boot on the throat. A victory for Americans. I wouldn't have any problem with making the cake, but apparently this guy did and his rights should've been respected as well as theirs. Like there's no other bakers available?

Posted by Frank G 2018-06-04 11:30|| 2018-06-04 11:30|| Front Page Top

#7 7-2 is a narrow victory? What's a slam-dunk?

It depends on the case at issue. If the progressive side wins 5-4 is a slam dunk.

Posted by AlanC 2018-06-04 11:31|| 2018-06-04 11:31|| Front Page Top

#8 Fuck the fascists.

I hope you don't forget the rubber, Darth

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2018-06-04 11:35|| 2018-06-04 11:35|| Front Page Top

#9 Sure, there are other bakers who would be willing to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple. But it was never about the cake. It's about the exercise power, the power to make people do things that violate their religious beliefs, the power to rub their noses in shit, the power to invalidate the First Amendment.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2018-06-04 12:00|| 2018-06-04 12:00|| Front Page Top

#10 To CNBC a 7 to 2 verdict is "narrow". HAHAHAHAHA!!

Hey, when we signed up for Journalism School, they said there'd be no math.

Personally, I'm surprised the SC didn't call the cake a tax or some twisted thing.

Posted by SteveS 2018-06-04 12:23|| 2018-06-04 12:23|| Front Page Top

#11 'Narrow' refers to the minimal ability to generalize the ruling, not the margin of the ruling.

Posted by Glenmore 2018-06-04 12:55|| 2018-06-04 12:55|| Front Page Top

#12 The Golden State Warriors win Game 2 of the NBA finals in a 'narrow' 122-103 victory over the Cavaliers!

Posted by Raj 2018-06-04 13:11|| 2018-06-04 13:11|| Front Page Top

#13 Perhaps "narrow" means you only count the opinions of those who you prefer the most.

Posted by gorb 2018-06-04 13:27|| 2018-06-04 13:27|| Front Page Top

#14 I often wonder what Daniel Patrick Moynihan of "Defining Deviancy Down" fame would say today.

Or would he just start drinking earlier?

Posted by AlanC 2018-06-04 13:46|| 2018-06-04 13:46|| Front Page Top

#15 The baker actually did offer them a prepared wedding cake. They insisted in demanding submission. It was about one thing - power. Fortunately, unlike other countries, the written First Amendment thingy was and is a thorn in the apparatchiks seeking to drive the population into submission. SCOTUS could read the results of the last election and didn't want anymore of "its" power eroded by going against the text of the Constitution, yet. Now a "Dear John" letter to the Colorado commission about violating the constitutional civil rights of its citizenry and possible prosecutions.

Posted by Procopius2k 2018-06-04 13:57|| 2018-06-04 13:57|| Front Page Top

#16 PMSNBC, the narrow news.

Posted by Woodrow 2018-06-04 14:11|| 2018-06-04 14:11|| Front Page Top

#17 'Narrow' refers to the minimal ability to generalize the ruling, not the margin of the ruling.

Thanks for clarifying that, Glenmore.

Posted by SteveS 2018-06-04 14:18|| 2018-06-04 14:18|| Front Page Top

#18 It's important to understand that what the rainbow crowd was hoping to win here was for SCOTUS to find a right for minority groups to expect government to enforce validation of their beliefs. It is all and only about favored minority groups being able to use the government as a club.

Now lets have some enterprising attorney go after the left coast administrator apparatchik who shut down a bakery for refusing to bake the rainbow. Sue him and his bosses and take it out of, er, their a$$es...

Posted by M. Murcek 2018-06-04 14:24|| 2018-06-04 14:24|| Front Page Top

#19 @ 11 and 17 - you are assuming, of course - that's they way CNBC intended it, and that they understood it.

Posted by Bobby 2018-06-04 15:31|| 2018-06-04 15:31|| Front Page Top

#20 I find several leftïsts on the Supreme Court aligning with the right very unusual this day and age and possibly the bigger story.

Are they trying to score points with Trump hoping he picks more liberals to the bench instead of nothing but solid hard righters by compromises such as this? In 8 Trump years he could wipe them out.

His pardons are making them realize they have less power after all.

Posted by Omeger Gray6606 2018-06-04 15:54|| 2018-06-04 15:54|| Front Page Top

#21 CNBC wrote "narrow victory", not narrow decision.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2018-06-04 16:04|| 2018-06-04 16:04|| Front Page Top

#22 His pardons are making them realize they have less power after all.

It's all about counting and stacking in this country. They were probably hoping to drive the nail in the coffin of democracy before their time at the wheel would have naturally run out.

Posted by gorb 2018-06-04 16:09|| 2018-06-04 16:09|| Front Page Top

#23 CNBC wrote "narrow victory", not narrow decision.

Narrow in what way? Seems pretty broad to me, either way. Maybe the author was hoping to minimize the impact?

Posted by gorb 2018-06-04 16:10|| 2018-06-04 16:10|| Front Page Top

#24 "Some said that my victory was narrow.
Says I, so's the tip of an arrow!"
From over the mantel,
"Hail, king of the ant-hill,"
Discanted the head of his sparrow.

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2018-06-04 16:40|| 2018-06-04 16:40|| Front Page Top

#25 Shows that the writer learned from the communist propaganda school--
"Our victorious forces are retreating with unbroken discipline before an enemy who advancing total disorder!"

Posted by magpie 2018-06-04 18:18|| 2018-06-04 18:18|| Front Page Top

#26 the decision was based on the fact that the Colorado panel making the decision to penalize the baker was biased

the bias was obvious in the record and not contested

Anton K who wrote the 'gay marriage' decision was the one who wrote this decision and it turned on the need to respect sincere religious convictions

the phrase 'sincere...' was in the gay marriage decision also

the fact that RBG and the wise Latina voted against the baker anyway says a lot

Posted by lord garth 2018-06-04 18:26|| 2018-06-04 18:26|| Front Page Top

#27 I suspect that a broad, precedent-setting decision would only have been 5-4. To get a narrow, non-precedent setting ruling, the four lib-tards drew straws and two of the losers voted with the majority. Can't have religious freedom setting a precedent, now can we.

Posted by Chuckles Grimp5700 2018-06-04 22:10|| 2018-06-04 22:10|| Front Page Top

#28 Has bride ever borne such a heartbreak
As seeks in ~~her~~ his freezer a keepsake,
But after a year
Finds it barren and drear,
Thus to celebrate bleakly with beefcake?

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2018-06-04 23:12|| 2018-06-04 23:12|| Front Page Top

#29 Instapundit had some tweet up that seemed to indicate that this will be retried under slightly different arguments.

Posted by rjschwarz 2018-06-04 23:16|| 2018-06-04 23:16|| Front Page Top

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