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2017-04-28 -Short Attention Span Theater-

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Posted by Deacon Blues 2017-04-28 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1737 views ] Top

1 A farmer without a license couldn't sell his crop. I'm not even sure he could weed.

I'm certain some weed was killed, injured or abused in this series of events.

Posted by Skidmark 2017-04-28 02:20|| 2017-04-28 02:20|| Front Page Top

2 There's no PE license available in Oregon for electronics engineer, just Electrical Engineer or Computer Engineer, so I'm not sure he's actually even legally misrepresenting himself. That said, we licensed PE's (mine's Civil) take misrepresenting or insinuating pretty seriously, even if it's not for financial gain. I think the Board here is off-target and should back off before the serious ridicule sets in

Posted by Frank G 2017-04-28 09:05|| 2017-04-28 09:05|| Front Page Top

3 He wouldn't be misrepresenting himself if his statement was that he 'was trained as an electronics engineer'. We don't know how the initial dialog went as they didn't publish his original communication, but it does not seem that he described himself appropriately or correctly.

I agree Frank, calling himself an 'engineer', 'electrical engineer', or 'electronics engineer' without the above 'trained as' caveat, would indeed be improper and/or illegal, depending on the jurisdiction.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2017-04-28 09:40|| 2017-04-28 09:40|| Front Page Top

4 A quick google reveals that only about 20% of engineers bother to get the Professional Engineer license, and the number is only that high because about 60% of civil engineers and those in related fields do so. The rest are no less engineers, and no less entitled to describe themselves so. They just cannot call themselves PEs, just like all those perfectly valid working accountants who are not CPAs. Likewise, while anyone can write a legally binding contract or will without a law degree, or represent himself in court -- going to law school merely increases the odds of not making dangerous mistakes -- but without passing the law exam he cannot call himself a lawyer.

This is idiotic.

Posted by trailing wife 2017-04-28 11:24|| 2017-04-28 11:24|| Front Page Top

5 It may seem to be, TW. The issue that many licensed engineers have with the non-licensees is the accountability.

We (in this part of the woods anyway) are required to carry personal 'Errors and Omissions' coverage, or have overall corporate coverage if considered an 'Engineering Firm', for our designs as part of the licensing criteria. Many (if not most) unlicensed folks around here don't carry it as it isn't cheap.

If you produce a bad design, you own it. There's little recourse by the affected parties and/or governing bodies for remediation and/or loss restitution other than civil forfeiture proceedings, which can be very costly and time consuming on the plaintiff's part.

Posted by Mullah Richard 2017-04-28 12:03|| 2017-04-28 12:03|| Front Page Top

6 Coming from Oregon, that when the state's name is translated, means: " We are too stupid to pump our own gas."

Posted by USN, Ret. 2017-04-28 16:44|| 2017-04-28 16:44|| Front Page Top

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