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2013-08-05 -Land of the Free

Cook Co. PD Takes Down a Tough (95 year old) Guy

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Posted by Glenmore 2013-08-05 07:22|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 The Illinois State Police are investigating the horrific incident but won't comment,

cops don't need a Taser or a shotgun to subdue a 95-year-old man.

I found there are two versions of events: The police version,

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-08-05 08:18|| 2013-08-05 08:18|| Front Page Top

#2 A shoehorn by itself, no problem. When mounted on a cane and attached to a walker.... deadly.

Be proud officer, be very proud.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-08-05 08:45|| 2013-08-05 08:45|| Front Page Top

#3 Cook county? Isn't this the place where 95 pound barristas are properly chastised (i.e.beaten and stomped) by 250 pound law enforcement?

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2013-08-05 10:30|| 2013-08-05 10:30|| Front Page Top

#4 in the mid-80s wimmin were told by the media not to pull over for Cook County Deputy Sheriffs as some were actually hit men for the mob and could rape and kill them.

Posted by 3dc 2013-08-05 11:33|| 2013-08-05 11:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Surely it will be the fault of the old man because he declined medical attention.

Don't they screen folks for common sense anymore before they let them be officers?

Posted by gorb 2013-08-05 12:30|| 2013-08-05 12:30|| Front Page Top

#6 Practicing to be Obamacare enforcers.

Posted by AlanC 2013-08-05 13:32|| 2013-08-05 13:32|| Front Page Top

#7 To those of you with the experience, remember who the various branches of the military were selected to be MP's/SP's, etc?

DHS Thug-Moron wannabes....

Posted by Uncle Phester 2013-08-05 13:58|| 2013-08-05 13:58|| Front Page Top

#8 Too kind UP, far, far too kind.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-08-05 15:36|| 2013-08-05 15:36|| Front Page Top

#9 Wait until his 75 year old son finds out, may take a swat team to take him down.

Posted by Airandee 2013-08-05 17:13|| 2013-08-05 17:13|| Front Page Top

#10 "Attempts were made verbally to have the resident comply with demands to drop the articles, to no avail," the police statement reads. "The resident then armed himself with a 12-inch butcher type kitchen knife."

But lawyer Grapsas says that Wrana's family never saw a knife in his room and that staff also told him Wrana didn't have such a knife.

"So where did the knife come from?" Grapsas asked.

Posted by KBK 2013-08-05 17:33|| 2013-08-05 17:33|| Front Page Top

#11 From a desperate defense lawyer?

Posted by gorb 2013-08-05 17:49|| 2013-08-05 17:49|| Front Page Top

#12 To be fair, it was a small suburban pd, (think Barney Fife) not the county pd itself, no excuse for the SWAT. These guys think they are on tv and pulling "raids" for almost anything and nothing at all. No excuse, shameless. Retired 30 yrs + CPD.

Posted by illeagle 2013-08-05 18:04|| 2013-08-05 18:04|| Front Page Top

#13 Bring the shotgun along tough guys, or had to go back to the vehicle to retreive it?

Posted by swksvolFF 2013-08-05 18:04|| 2013-08-05 18:04|| Front Page Top

#14 I used to live next door to that suburb. I've had patients in that nursing home. I have no idea what the police were thinking.

Posted by Steve White 2013-08-05 18:24|| 2013-08-05 18:24|| Front Page Top

#15 "The old man, described by a family member as "wobbly" on his feet, had refused medical attention."

Was he under a protective order? Had he legally been declared non compos mentis? (And, if so, did the idjit paramedics who called the cops have a copy of the paperwork in their hands?)

If not, he had the absolute right to refuse medical attention, no matter how much his family/nursing home whined about it.

When I was in the rescue squad, I'd talk and explain and get others to help persuade, and make sure the patient understood the consequences of refusing medical attention (hey - I've got all night). But if the adult patient refused to go, I wouldn't attempt to transport. That's called KIDNAPPING.

And if you're too stupid or stubborn to go to the hospital when you need to, I sure as hell ain't going to go to prison for your sorry ass.

Posted by Barbara 2013-08-05 18:33|| 2013-08-05 18:33|| Front Page Top

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