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2013-04-19 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Steve White 2013-04-19 08:35|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 One TV report stated Tamerlan, after he went down, was run over by brother Dzhokar.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-04-19 09:02|| 2013-04-19 09:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Dead suspects tell no tales?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-04-19 09:05|| 2013-04-19 09:05|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm quite certain the FBI senior agents have a lot on their minds this morning, and I don't want to be a Monday morning quarterback. I do hope there is a team looking for the handlers.

My wife is watching CNN right now; that network is taking pains to assure us all that just because the brothers are from Chechnya we shouldn't assume they are terrorists. Of course not, non-terrorists plant bombs and gun down police officers all the time. As Fred says, you could look it up.

I think we know better. These two were part of a terrorist cell. Why activated now? For what purpose? Who else was in the cell? Who was the handler, the money-man and the delivery-man? How did two 'students' like an apparently comfortable life in Boston?

And the big question, of course: how many other cells like this one?

Posted by Steve White 2013-04-19 09:09|| 2013-04-19 09:09|| Front Page Top

#4 IMO, these two are just, incredibly, stupid robbers.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-04-19 09:34|| 2013-04-19 09:34|| Front Page Top

#5 Tamerlan = Tamerlane, aka Timur.

A bloody Moslem warlord who wanted to be the Caliph but was not one of the Quryash (tribe of the prophet) so he had to settle for "big cheese" came out of Mongolia as a new Ghengis.

BUT, there are still people swearing that this was an Orthodox Christian and had nothing to do with Islam, nope, nothing to see here.

Posted by AlanC 2013-04-19 09:40|| 2013-04-19 09:40|| Front Page Top

#6 Thanks AlanC. I was scratching my head over the name...knew there was a historical connection.

It will be interesting to see if there was or is a handler or funding component to these two.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-19 09:51|| 2013-04-19 09:51|| Front Page Top

#7 The media is already going through their predictable Politically correct machinations. What could drive these two young men to commit such a heinous act? Chechnya? But they want independence from Russiawhy attack the US. And of course the obligatoryhow did they become radicalized?
More then a decade after 9/11 and they still can't say the blindingly obvious. Its Islam.

Posted by DepotGuy 2013-04-19 09:57|| 2013-04-19 09:57|| Front Page Top

#8 Timur the lame was quite a guy.

He couldn't be caliph (per AlanC's comment). He also couldn't be a khan because he wasn't descended from Ghengis Khan. He was a devoted muslim.

He and his hordes murdered over 10 million and caused the death via starvation or overwork of another 5 to 10 million. Among his victims were several million muslims.

Posted by lord garth 2013-04-19 10:02|| 2013-04-19 10:02|| Front Page Top

#9 Or....... they could be on financial contract from a third country, and someone possibly their handler hit the activate button.

In all the data that is surfacing, I see no mention of employment.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-19 10:02|| 2013-04-19 10:02|| Front Page Top

#10 Pic of boy victim, bomb and bomber

Posted by tipper 2013-04-19 10:18|| 2013-04-19 10:18|| Front Page Top

#11 Supposedly self identified as Muslim on social networking places.

Posted by Chunky Thineng7052 2013-04-19 10:36|| 2013-04-19 10:36|| Front Page Top

#12 Do not be surprised that funding came from american taxpayers via student loans and grants and other various outreach programs.

Posted by airandee 2013-04-19 10:39|| 2013-04-19 10:39|| Front Page Top

#13 From various comments and social media, sounds like the older (now dead) one was becoming pious. No alcohol, no smoking, etc. He had a hot looking girlfriend who supposedly had converted to Islam.

Now he was also a boxer, and perhaps staying away from cigs and alcohol is a good idea if you're going to be a competitive pugilist. I'd like to see more of what he was writing. Particularly in non-English forums.

Posted by Steve White 2013-04-19 10:45|| 2013-04-19 10:45|| Front Page Top

#14 Reference #12: Quite possible, similar to PLO and Pakistani Taliban.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-19 10:49|| 2013-04-19 10:49|| Front Page Top

#15 One of them ( the younger) was awarded a scholarship by Cambraidge.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2013-04-19 10:59|| 2013-04-19 10:59|| Front Page Top

#16 Yes, by the city of Cambridge, not the university located therein. Looks like one of the typical 'do-gooder' type small scholarships given to a number of young people, not just him.

Posted by Steve White 2013-04-19 11:01|| 2013-04-19 11:01|| Front Page Top

#17 David Sirota hardest hit.

Posted by charger 2013-04-19 11:02|| 2013-04-19 11:02|| Front Page Top

#18 The father of suspected Boston Marathon bomber called on his son today to give up peacefully, but warned the U.S. that if his son is killed "all hell will break loose."
Anzor Tsarnaev spoke to ABC News from his home in the Russian city of Makhachkala as Boston police carried out an intense dragnet for his son Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, survived a running gun battle with police during the night that left an MIT security officer dead and a Boston cop badly wounded. His older brother Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, died in the shootout.
The father said he spoke to his sons by phone earlier this week. "We talked about the bombing. I was worried about then," Anzor Tsarnaev said.
He said his sons reassured him, saying, "Everything is good, Daddy. Everything is very good."
The elder Tsarnaev insisted that his sons were innocent, but said he would appeal to his son to "surrender peacefully."
"Give up. Give up. You have a bright future ahead of you. Come home to Russia," the dad said.
The father warned, however, "If they killed him, then all hell would break loose."
"If they kill my second child, I will know that it is an inside job, a hit job. The police are to blame," the father told ABC News. "Someone, some organization is out to get them."

Posted by Deacon Blues 2013-04-19 11:30|| 2013-04-19 11:30|| Front Page Top

#19 Daddy sounds like a perfect fit as a CNN commentator.

Posted by AlanC 2013-04-19 11:36|| 2013-04-19 11:36|| Front Page Top

#20 "Someone, some organization is out to get them."

Very typical Russian paranoia.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-04-19 11:54|| 2013-04-19 11:54|| Front Page Top

#21 Tamerlan had a YouTube profile, where he created a playlist dedicated to terrorism and another for Islam.

That says plenty. FBI is visiting a Catholic guy who blogs pro-life, but gives a free pass to these, Its those Catholics and Pro-Life terrorists that pose the greatest threat apparently.

Posted by OldSpook 2013-04-19 12:14|| 2013-04-19 12:14|| Front Page Top

#22 #17 David Sirota hardest hit.
Posted by: charger

I'd like to see that. Ohhh... you didn't mean literally

Posted by Frank G 2013-04-19 12:34|| 2013-04-19 12:34|| Front Page Top

#23 David Sirota hardest hit

Not really - they aren't exactly 'arabic'.

Posted by Pappy 2013-04-19 13:11|| 2013-04-19 13:11|| Front Page Top

#24 Of course they aren't terrorists or muslim, it would not fit the MSM or POTUS narrative.

I think we are in it for the long haul. Now that Islamic fanatics know how easy it is to cause great harm to the western "devil" we are going to have hell to pay.

Napolitano and Holder and all of those politically correct Kumbiyah, if we could understand them and get them to like us they wouldn't do this crowd has to understand the nature of the struggle.

As long as we are NOT Moslem, we are infidels and as infidels we are targets of Jihad and conversion by any means fair or foul, violence, rape, murder, you name it.

Tamerlane, massacred the entire city of Baghdad, killing over 5 million, he told his troops that each of them had to bring him two heads. He built pyramids of human heads at the four corners of the city over 100 feet square each. He threw all of the books and scrolls in the University of Baghdad library into the river and the river turned black from the ink.

The Moslems for some peculiar reason recognize Tamerlane as a great "Defender of the Faith" possibly because he killed so many people. They seem to like historic figures that massacre innocents.

Posted by Bill Clinton 2013-04-19 13:19|| 2013-04-19 13:19|| Front Page Top

#25 "The river went red with blood, then black with ink." The account I read gave him a title to match slaughterer of the innocents and scurge of knowledge - savior of Christianity. IIRC, the western islamic empire was knocking on the gates of Constantinople with victory in their grasp when tamerlame's army attacked the islamists, and kicking their asses so badly that the Byzantines covertly aided the turks. It set back the eventual capture of Constantinople; had it fallen then, there was little in the way of islam sweeping across eastern europe and beyond.

Posted by swksvolFF 2013-04-19 14:21|| 2013-04-19 14:21|| Front Page Top

#26 "Come home to Russia"

After serving ten life sentences?

Posted by European Conservative 2013-04-19 15:43|| 2013-04-19 15:43|| Front Page Top

#27 "Tamerlane, massacred the entire city of Baghdad, killing over 5 million, he told his troops that each of them had to bring him two heads. He built pyramids of human heads at the four corners of the city over 100 feet square each. He threw all of the books and scrolls in the University of Baghdad library into the river and the river turned black from the ink."

Actually this refers to Hülegü's conquest of Baghdad in 1258 where up to 800000 people are said to have been killed. Tamerlan is said to have killed up to 100000 (70000 most likely) when he reconquered rebellious Baghdad... certainly not 5 million. Baghdad never had that many inhabitants before the late 20th century,

Posted by European Conservative 2013-04-19 16:09|| 2013-04-19 16:09|| Front Page Top

#28 Sorry Pops, your son won't be coming home..

Posted by Omose Angeaque7353 2013-04-19 16:33|| 2013-04-19 16:33|| Front Page Top

#29 tamerlane's conquest of Baghdad was in 1401 or so

the renerally accepted civilan death toll is about 20000 in that event

tamerlane had many other conquests which ended with massacres far greater than that in Baghdad

Posted by lord garth 2013-04-19 18:09|| 2013-04-19 18:09|| Front Page Top

#30 * LATEST * ... WOLF BLITZER + CNN this AM > are repor that Watertown, MA Police may finally have younger brother DZHOKHAR/DZHOKAR holed up or cornered in a neighborhood - Tear Gas is repor being fired to entice him to surrender.

This is occurring after after an AM Press Briefing where Authorities saud the public could back out from lockdown vee their domiciles as long as they understood the house-to-house search + manhunt is still on-going, + remain vigilant. DZHOKHAR was apparently cornered barely 15 minutes after the end of the Briefing.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-04-19 19:33|| 2013-04-19 19:33|| Front Page Top

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