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2013-02-12 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Steve White 2013-02-12 09:32|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11136 views ] Top

#1 Meanwhile, at the Situation Room...

Sir, do you know what this means?!

Yes. For the speech tonight, increase clenched fist hand gestures by 25%. If that doesn't work, begin plans to re-arrange the alphabetical order.

Posted by swksvolFF 2013-02-12 10:44|| 2013-02-12 10:44|| Front Page Top

#2 From Bharat Karnad's blog:

Officially, South Korean siesmic sensors read 4.7+ on the Richter scale, the US 4.9+, Japanese 5.2+, but the most reliable read is from the Russian station at Petropovlovsk on the Kamchatka Peninsula nearest to the test site with 5.3-5.5+ Richter. Petropovlovsk also has, according to this source, a radionuclide detection facility. While the Granite stratum of the Hamygeong test site dampened/suppressed the shock waves, the 5.5 on Richter translates into a certifiably estimated 20-30 Kiloton explosion.

Posted by john frum 2013-02-12 11:21|| 2013-02-12 11:21|| Front Page Top

#3 thanks. 20-30 kT is a lot! They have "made the grade" with their bomb design. There's nothing screwed up with the technology if they got that kind of yield. Please post links - to any follow-up confirmations on size of the blast.

Posted by Raider 2013-02-12 12:29|| 2013-02-12 12:29|| Front Page Top

#4 by the way Rantburg - that photo is a classic. Brings back a lot of smiles :-)

Posted by Raider 2013-02-12 12:30|| 2013-02-12 12:30|| Front Page Top

#5 How do we know North Korea even has nukes and doesn't just blow up a Chinese built one once in awhile so that we think they do? It would be pretty cheap insurance by China to protect their crazy little minion.

Posted by rjschwarz 2013-02-12 14:36|| 2013-02-12 14:36|| Front Page Top

#6 " ...A certifiably estimated 20-30 kiloton explosion" > Wehell its just NOT a 6-7 kiloton'er now is it???

It would appear that NOKOR's past "failures" weren't "real" failures after all, just POTEMKINIST FUN'NIN lest there be serious-to-catastrophic, Iran- or Hard Boyz-styled "workplace/industrial accidents"???

* BHARAT RAKSHAK > [The Hankyoreh] US EXPERT SAYS SEOUL + WASHINGTON EMPHASIS ON NORTH KOREAN DE-NUCLEARIZATION HAS [utterly] FAILED.

It ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY CATEGORICALLY UNDENIABLY ... ...@etc. has not succeeded.

* FOX NEWS, CNN > US CALLS NORTH KOREAN NUCLEAR TEST "PROVOCATIVE" + A THREAT TO INTERNATIONAL SECURITY.

Yes, but IMO not in the way its being portrayed in the MSM-Net - all I'm going to say is that the situation or circumstance is more complicated than it appears.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-02-12 18:45|| 2013-02-12 18:45|| Front Page Top

#7 still waiting for a good estimate of the size of the NORK nuke. Have seen numbers as high as 20-30 kT, but also lower numbers around 10-20 kT. Just the same - it's a serious amount of BANG an it means they've got their weapon designs working.

Posted by Raider 2013-02-12 19:23|| 2013-02-12 19:23|| Front Page Top

#8 NO, it means that they got a weapon somewhere else, and set it off.

They can no more "Build" A nuke than i CAN.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-02-12 19:26|| 2013-02-12 19:26|| Front Page Top

#9 On the other hand there are a few of us here that were prefix "5" at one time....

Posted by Bill Clinton 2013-02-12 22:37|| 2013-02-12 22:37|| Front Page Top

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