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McCain-Palin counter-punches Obama right in the lipstick

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Posted by Mike 2008-09-10 09:34|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 Note to the left and MSM:

Those who live by the Macaca, die by the Macaca.

[As ye sow so shall ye reap]

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-09-10 09:51|| 2008-09-10 09:51|| Front Page Top

#2 Women just love being called pigs. They also love it when a man calls another woman a pig. Almost as much as as they love a man showing how big and strong he is by slapping a woman around.

"Now get back in the kitchen and make me some pie!"

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-09-10 09:53|| 2008-09-10 09:53|| Front Page Top

#3 You're going to get a ring through the nose for that Senator.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-09-10 10:10|| 2008-09-10 10:10|| Front Page Top

#4 Obama is writing his new book,

"How to piss-off all non-uber-liberal women in the world in one week"

Posted by DarthVader 2008-09-10 10:34|| 2008-09-10 10:34|| Front Page Top

#5 The hilarious thing here is that there is no way out.

Either
1)he meant what he said (as I believe) and is a male chauvinist sexist pig who insulted virtually all women.

or
2) he shows that a Havard Law graduate trained to use words etc. etc. who's main claim to fame is his speaking ability had not a clue in the world that this would go over with a key demographic like the proverbial lead balloon.

So, take your pick:

1) mean spirited, vile chauvinist, or
2) clueless buffoon.

Posted by AlanC 2008-09-10 11:06|| 2008-09-10 11:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Interesting how Palin's ad overtly co-ops Katie Couric in her cause.

Posted by Minister of funny walks 2008-09-10 11:20|| 2008-09-10 11:20|| Front Page Top

#7 AlanC - you forgot
3) all of the above, and more.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2008-09-10 11:51|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2008-09-10 11:51|| Front Page Top

#8 This is like the last 2 minutes of a basketball game. One team is ahead and the other knows it will lose so they start intentionally fouling the other side. It is desperate and poor sportsmanship, and they know it. But it's the only chance they have, no matter how long the odds, at winning. So they do it.

Posted by Iblis 2008-09-10 12:01|| 2008-09-10 12:01|| Front Page Top

#9 Obama/Biden
Hopey/Dopey
Or is that putting lipstick on a pig?

Posted by tipper 2008-09-10 12:25|| 2008-09-10 12:25|| Front Page Top

#10 Is it just my imagination or is the O-man wiping flop sweat off his brow? Poor guy. All he ever had was charisma and now he's up against someone who has even more of it than he does.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-09-10 12:46|| 2008-09-10 12:46|| Front Page Top

#11 Just saw McCains second ad today on Fox, declaring Obama sent 30 lawyers to dig up dirt on Palin... show as wolves running through a field.
I think this is a nice one-two set up combo punch.
Now that O has declared he was just being oh so clever, and yelled "Enough!" he will now have to respond to the "sending in the wolves" after saying families were off limits.
He HAS to respond, everyone is watching...

Posted by Capsu 78 2008-09-10 12:48|| 2008-09-10 12:48|| Front Page Top

#12 we need bumper stickers saying" ANOTHER LIPSTICK PIG HOCKEY MOM FOR MCCAIN PALIN"If you know ehere I can buy them I ll take a dozen rightnow"

Posted by john e morrissey">john e morrissey 2008-09-10 12:53|| 2008-09-10 12:53|| Front Page Top

#13 I'm rather impressed that the stodgy Republicans and the "I don't know the internet" McCain is counterpunching on YouTube like this. Somebody in that campaign gets it.

Posted by Steve White 2008-09-10 13:01|| 2008-09-10 13:01|| Front Page Top

#14 so from now on every reference to lipstick is about Palin? Did she like copyright the word?

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-10 13:05|| 2008-09-10 13:05|| Front Page Top

#15 #13 I'm rather impressed that the stodgy Republicans and the "I don't know the internet" McCain is counterpunching on YouTube like this. Somebody in that campaign gets it.

Amen to that steve here's another

Posted by Beavis 2008-09-10 13:11|| 2008-09-10 13:11|| Front Page Top

#16 The other three are men, liberalhawk. So yes, she owns the word.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-09-10 13:15|| 2008-09-10 13:15|| Front Page Top

#17 Yes, liberalhawk, she copyrighted the word. Just like Obama copyrighted "change".

Posted by Darrell 2008-09-10 13:15|| 2008-09-10 13:15|| Front Page Top

#18 AlanC, I'll take choice #1, especially when combined with some of his cute little remarks about Hillary during primary season ("I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down, launches attacks as a way of trying to boost her appeal." and "You challenge the status quo and suddenly the claws come out,"), and calling a female reporter "sweetie".

One remark, probably no. Two remarks that are that nasty....well...starting to see a pattern here. We're now up to four remarks. What do you think?

Posted by Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-09-10 13:17|| 2008-09-10 13:17|| Front Page Top

#19 The other three are men, liberalhawk. So yes, she owns the word

I dont get that. Millions of people who arent running for Pres or Veep use lipstick. Its a common object. Its use to 'prettify' something is part of the culture, and thats where the phrase comes from. And its EXACTLY what the GOP is doing. Another phrase is "making a silk purse from a sows ear" = would that be antifeminist cause women carry purses?

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-10 13:18|| 2008-09-10 13:18|| Front Page Top

#20 Yes, liberalhawk, she copyrighted the word. Just like Obama copyrighted "change".

I havent heard Obama calling anybody racist for saying they were either for or against change.

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-10 13:19|| 2008-09-10 13:19|| Front Page Top

#21 And LH, if I was in a really uncharitable mood, I could count the "fish" reference as a fifth remark.

This guy went to Harvard, Harvard Law, no less....and he says this kind of thing by accident? I don't think so.

Posted by Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-09-10 13:20|| 2008-09-10 13:20|| Front Page Top

#22 cmon, if Hillary had actually complained about the use of "periodically" the right would have been attacking HER.

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-10 13:21|| 2008-09-10 13:21|| Front Page Top

#23 That's two pig references, liberalhawk. Are you some kind of male chauvinist pig or something?

Posted by Darrell 2008-09-10 13:22|| 2008-09-10 13:22|| Front Page Top

#24 ooh, you must be an islamophobe to attack me for dissing pigs.

No, Im not serious. But thats about the same level of discourse as the attacks on Obama for this.

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-10 13:24|| 2008-09-10 13:24|| Front Page Top

#25 LH, he got called on the carpet by female journalists for that "periodically" remark. (I guess you have never had some doofus tell you to go take a Midol or ask you if you are on the rag when you get upset about something....) Throw in the couple of guys yukking it up after he said it and it was damn obvious what he was trying to imply.

It sure as hell wasn't the meaning of "from time to time".

Posted by Swamp Blondie in the Cornfields 2008-09-10 13:34|| 2008-09-10 13:34|| Front Page Top

#26 Even though I despise Bambi, I think he didn't intentionally make the remark as a put down. He was at a "common man" meeting and I think he made the statement to appeal to them while playing on the lipstick theme.

Not meant to be a put-down on women, but a really, really, really bad choice of phrase to a group that already feels like he has treated them badly because of Hillary.

Bambi is showing is complete lack of understanding when it comes to having a strategy that appeals to the majority. Seems he just wants to do targeted speeches to the audience, and while that might have been fine 10 years ago, with the internet and video recorders everywhere he just looks like a flip-flopper right now and completely insensitive to statements and facts as they are at the current news cycle.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-09-10 13:41|| 2008-09-10 13:41|| Front Page Top

#27 What a remarkable coincidence. Palin makes a lipstick comment. Bammo makes a lipstick comment. Just what are the odds, LH? If Bammo's comment had been a zinger rather than a pathetic flop then maybe it would have been on purpose, is that it?

Or was Bammo just addressing the critical national issue of cosmetics on farm animals?

Posted by Iblis 2008-09-10 13:43|| 2008-09-10 13:43|| Front Page Top

#28 Precisely, it's a real pattern of "implausible deniability" that he's been called on by non-Republicans.

Posted by ebrown2 2008-09-10 14:11|| 2008-09-10 14:11|| Front Page Top

#29 Or was Bammo just addressing the critical national issue of cosmetics on farm animals?

Fawning NYT editorial praising Obambi for cleverly raising the staggeringly important issue of animal testing by cosmetics manufacturers in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ....

Posted by AzCat 2008-09-10 14:26|| 2008-09-10 14:26|| Front Page Top

#30 Obama has a long history of using contemptuous body language, intonation and schoolyard smirks when he's crossed. His body language during the Dem primary debates was noted here by pretty much every female regular at Rantburg. His physical domineering of Joe Lieberman in the Senate hallway got a lot of video airplay on the Net. So did his high school flipping off of Hillary, which was accompanied not only by the same smirk as the pig/lipstick comment but also preceeded by the same wiping his forehead gesture.

In fact, that gesture tends to preceed many things he says to defend against serious criticism. Watch the last installment of him with gasbag O'Reilly - the forehead gesture comes when he tries to deflect the conversation away from his long-standing and sympathetic association with Ayers.

Now look at his body language and movement and listen to how he slides into just enough quasi-streetalk intonation as he preps up for the pig/lipstick/stinking fish zing. This is adolescent swagger, this is "I'm a bad mutha" boasting.

IOW this is an indication of what the man is like when things don't go his way. It's not mature (and this is a man who's nearly 50,, not 20). It's not pretty and it doesn't belong in the White House.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-10 14:25|| 2008-09-10 14:25|| Front Page Top

#31 Excellent, and in my view a very accurate observation lotp. The 'quasi-streetalk' and 'fist bumps' with Michelle put him in a class all his own.

Posted by Besoeker 2008-09-10 14:39|| 2008-09-10 14:39|| Front Page Top

#32 so from now on every reference to lipstick is about Palin? Did she like copyright the word?

Just read #5 by AlanC, liberalhawk. Select option 1 or option 2 or all of the above. Doesn't matter. Bambi blew it. And I do believe that is flop sweat he's wiping off his brow.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-09-10 14:44|| 2008-09-10 14:44|| Front Page Top

#33 Dang! They pulled the video. Who's running YouTube, anyway?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-09-10 14:45|| 2008-09-10 14:45|| Front Page Top

#34 CBS screamed copyright infringement because Couric was featured. They're wrong but it gave YT cover.

Posted by AzCat 2008-09-10 14:50|| 2008-09-10 14:50|| Front Page Top

#35 Zero's whining to the media today about this gaffe,

See, it would be funny, but the news media decided that would be the lead story yesterday. This happens every election cycle. Every four years, this is what we do. This is what they want to spend two of the last 55 days talking about Enough!

Reminds me of nothing so much as the little dork on the play ground that sucker punches someone and then yells Mommy as soon as he is grabbed.
Obama is more and more showing himself to be the emotional equivalent of a 4th grader.

Posted by AlanC 2008-09-10 14:54|| 2008-09-10 14:54|| Front Page Top

#36 Obama has a long history of using contemptuous body language, intonation and schoolyard smirks when he's crossed.

I don't think he's ever admitted to being wrong about anything, either.

These are all the things that the left has whined about George W. Bush for the last 8 years. Now they have their very own.

Posted by Grenter, Protector of the Geats 2008-09-10 15:05|| 2008-09-10 15:05|| Front Page Top

#37 So .... all over the office here women have been using 'lipstick' in conversation today and exchanging steely smiles. I think O lost at least two secretary votes in this blue state with that smart&ss adolescent jab. Keep it up, Obaby. Keep it up and there will be a lot more PUMAs prowling the streets come November.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-10 15:07|| 2008-09-10 15:07|| Front Page Top

#38 This is nothing compared to what McCain will be able to provoke him into at the debates. McGovernesque.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-10 15:13|| 2008-09-10 15:13|| Front Page Top

#39 my wife's co-workers were steamed.
They are dems.

Posted by 3dc 2008-09-10 15:24|| 2008-09-10 15:24|| Front Page Top

#40 I don't normally agree w/LH on social policy but I think he's right on this one. I disdain the zero but I don't think he meant any sexist remarks against Palin or even the Hildabeast for that matter. There's so much more to flay him on and we're wasting our time w/this non-issue.

Posted by Broadhead6 2008-09-10 15:38|| 2008-09-10 15:38|| Front Page Top

#41 What a remarkable coincidence. Palin makes a lipstick comment. Bammo makes a lipstick comment. Just what are the odds, LH?

Considering the amount of verbiage spilled in a campaign, yes, the odds are good enough.

"Or was Bammo just addressing the critical national issue of cosmetics on farm animals?"

He was addressing the issue of prettifying something that stinks. Which is what that TRADITIONAL AMERICAN PHRASE refers to. Its pretty clear what the Dems think stinks, and what they want to make this election about - the Bush admins record. Its also pretty clear McCain wants to run away from that. With Lieberman he really could have. With Palin, hes stuck, so he can only try to change the subject.

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-10 15:38|| 2008-09-10 15:38|| Front Page Top

#42 Okay, Liberalhawk, let me spell it out to you, since you obviously forgot the background for obama's "comeback".

Firstly, Palin had made a comparison between herself and a pit bull. HERSELF and a Pit Bull. In that comparison, WHO'S WEARING THE LIPSTICK? Why Palin, NOT THE PIT BULL. Also, the joke is told by herself on herself.

In Obama's comeback, the pit bull is replaced by a Pig (Dog, pig, same thing to a MUSLIM, I might point out). The lipstick goes on the Pig. The guy tells the joke on a woman of a different race.

Mix in lots of "deconstructionist interpretation", and is there any other than a accustation that Palin was a Pig for opposing, OPPOSING, HIM?

Three. Count'em, THREE.

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2008-09-10 16:00|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2008-09-10 16:00|| Front Page Top

#43
A whole lot of women disagree with you LH. A *whole* lot of women seem to have independently assessed that body language, intonation and smirk and taken it as a snide condescending putdown of Palin. And they aren't amused, or tolerant, or rationalizing it away. You aren't going to argue them out of that reaction, especially since he has a track record of such reponses whenever he wants to put down a woman who is pressing him on some issue. The defense just isn't washing, boys.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-10 16:00|| 2008-09-10 16:00|| Front Page Top

#44 In Obama's comeback, the pit bull is replaced by a Pig (Dog, pig, same thing to a MUSLIM, I might point out). The lipstick goes on the Pig. The guy tells the joke on a woman of a different race.

1. Except its not a comeback. Its a statement about the Bush administration.
2. Obama isnt a muslim. Can you stop with that shit already?
3. Hes telling the joke on someone of a different race all right - George W Bush

Mix in lots of "deconstructionist interpretation", and is there any other than a accustation that Palin was a Pig for opposing, OPPOSING, HIM

well there you are right, youd have to be a full on deconstructionist to read it that way. Congrats, you get a PhD in literarcy criticism from Duke University. Now can we common sense people discuss it?

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-10 16:04|| 2008-09-10 16:04|| Front Page Top

#45 A whole lot of women disagree with you LH. A *whole* lot of women seem to have independently assessed that body language, intonation and smirk and taken it as a snide condescending putdown of Palin.

I will confess I have only read it, not watched the video.

And they aren't amused, or tolerant, or rationalizing it away.

I dont consider women the automatic interpretors of any remarke claimed to be sexist, just as I dont hold blacks the automatic interpretors of any remark claimed to be racist. I guess I couldnt get a Phd degree in literature at a top flight US university for my lack of post-structuralist semiotics, huh? Thats ok, I dont want a lit PhD anyway.

You aren't going to argue them out of that reaction, especially since he has a track record of such reponses whenever he wants to put down a woman who is pressing him on some issue. The defense just isn't washing, boys.

This is based on your anecdotal evidence? We'll see how it plays in the polls. I think eventually most women will vote on issues and not on this junk.

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-10 16:08|| 2008-09-10 16:08|| Front Page Top

#46 I agree mostly with LH.
However, my wife, who at one point was thinking about voting for Obama before the Wright thing came out, is absolutely steamed by the remark. I told her the same argument that it really wasn't a slam on woman as pigs and she agrees, but it still really pisses her off considering what Palin said. It just seems sexist.

And, as I said before, I think it was meant to be a slick and clever twist on what Palin said to be directed at Bush, but Bambi seriously underestimated the reaction it would get. Women and pigs. Never, ever, EVAH make a statement that combine the two.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-09-10 16:12|| 2008-09-10 16:12|| Front Page Top

#47 I just love the way Obama keeps stepping in it. His actions, either by design or by default, continue to compare and link him to Palin rather than McCain. McCain remains above it all. Obama is in full reaction mode and he clearly does not do that well. The more he, along with his media friends, lashes out, the more desperate and weak he appears. Spiraling downward at this point. The polls later this week will show that. And this continues a long, long decline. It is getting more precipitous now.

Posted by remoteman 2008-09-10 16:16|| 2008-09-10 16:16|| Front Page Top

#48 Katie Couric has a news program at CBS?
Who knew?

Posted by Capsu 78 2008-09-10 16:52|| 2008-09-10 16:52|| Front Page Top

#49 Point of information: semiotics really is a branch of linguistics, however much the littrachaw types may try to claim it.

liberalhawk, et al, back when I was interpreting consumer research, we used to say that perception is as real as reality. In other words, it doesn't matter what Obama meant, it doesn't even matter what Obama said. What matters is how women, who are not only a slight majority of American voters, but are also a group that is in play in this election because of Hillary Clinton's campaign, interpret it. And you have anecdotal evidence from not only several Rantburg women, but also women known to several Rantburg men, that this statement was a tactical error on Obama's part, that is going to drive away voters he needs in what at this point appears to be a tight election. It doesn't even matter whether these annoyed women vote for McCain or simply stay home, these are votes that Obama and the Democrats will have lost... and possibly lost permanently.

Off topic, based on things I've read since it was last discussed, it looks like current statistics support you with regard to the Democrats taking both houses of Congress.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-09-10 16:53|| 2008-09-10 16:53|| Front Page Top

#50 "I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down...

The nice thing about remarks like this is you get plausible deniability. Hey, it's just a common expression! Why is everyone so upset?

Either the man is tone-deaf to his own words or he is making thinly veiled, sophomoric insults. Neither interpretation speaks well of Him. Like the Spinal Tap boys say, there is a fine line between clever and stupid.

Posted by SteveS 2008-09-10 17:14|| 2008-09-10 17:14|| Front Page Top

#51 TW if we're talking horse race, youre right. If we're talking what the man really meant, or what any reasonable person could have interpreted them as, thats something different. When Repubs have their words unfairly twisted, the usual response here is outrage, not horse race talk. But whatever. I wonder if those women will change their minds when they see videos of McCain using the exact same phrase about Hillarys health care plan.

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-09-10 17:18|| 2008-09-10 17:18|| Front Page Top

#52 unfairly twisted.... apparently misunderstood by the wildly applauding Donk voters behind him in the video, huh? Are they too stooopid to understand they're "just words"? Keep digging

Genius

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-09-10 17:25|| 2008-09-10 17:25|| Front Page Top

#53 that Genius snark was aimed at O, not you, LH. I actually respect your motivation, but not your argument

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-09-10 17:30|| 2008-09-10 17:30|| Front Page Top

#54 Except its not a comeback. Its a statement about the Bush administration.

No! Wait! It was a statement about post-modern agrarian policy! Yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by Iblis 2008-09-10 17:39|| 2008-09-10 17:39|| Front Page Top

#55 NO, LH, I'm not deconstructionist.

The democrat women who are up in the air are deconstructionists.

They'll be the ones who will match up the facts that I have outlined and come to the conclusion that you are denying Obama made.

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2008-09-10 18:20|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2008-09-10 18:20|| Front Page Top

#56 Yeeeeeeehi! What a thread.

Preshawar II the Return of LH!

Posted by .5MT 2008-09-10 18:29|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-09-10 18:29|| Front Page Top

#57 Whatever Obama said makes little difference to me, wasn't planning on voting for him anyway, and that's based on his policies. My wife wasn't either, again based on his policies. But now she is not only not voting for Obama, she is pretty ticked off and willing to tell everyone and anyone she meets why.

Obama is a pretty good speaker with prepared remarks and a teleprompter, but his campaign needs to limit his extemporaneous remarks, he tends to bury himself. 57 states (is it true there are 57 muslim states?) ... my muslim faith ... pigs and lipstick etc.

Everybody mispeaks from time to time though, so not a big deal to me. Then again, the dems as I recall, have never cut George W. Bush much slack in that regard, or in any regard. Payback is indeed a ... well Obama can finish that line I am sure.

Posted by Legolas 2008-09-10 18:30|| 2008-09-10 18:30|| Front Page Top

#58 macaca macaca macaca!

Posted by Legolas 2008-09-10 18:37|| 2008-09-10 18:37|| Front Page Top

#59 I will confess I have only read it, not watched the video.

Obama's remark wasn't written - it was delivered in a personal performance in front of an audience he was walking among. It was, in other words, as much delivered by intonation, body posture, the knowing smile at the edge of his mouth during the brief pause before he actually said the lipstick phrase, as by the words themselves. Watch his audience - they know what's coming and are already starting to laugh before the words get out.

He meant it as a barely-deniable personal zing at Palin. And the stinky fish follow on, delivered with more of a street intonation and accent, was indeed intended to invoke exactly the meaning 3dc called out above.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-10 18:40|| 2008-09-10 18:40|| Front Page Top

#60 Trying to be Adlai with an edge. It's funny, damn funny.

Posted by .5MT 2008-09-10 18:47|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-09-10 18:47|| Front Page Top

#61 ironic too, since Adlai was cutting edge hisownbadself

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-09-10 18:55|| 2008-09-10 18:55|| Front Page Top

#62 lotp - your catch on the forehead-scratch "thang" is on the spot. When he's gonna do a lying slam, he does it

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-09-10 19:03|| 2008-09-10 19:03|| Front Page Top

#63 I heard it on the radio, and it was clear to me he was referring to Palin as a pig, and the audience tittered when he siad the word pig, and busted up when he finished. He knew, and they knew. And I know.

But the O campaign said it was OK, because Johnny Mac referred to Hilly's plan as a pig with lipstick.

Posted by Bobby 2008-09-10 19:40|| 2008-09-10 19:40|| Front Page Top

#64 "I understand that Senator Clinton, periodically when she's feeling down...

The nice thing about remarks like this is you get plausible deniability. Hey, it's just a common expression! Why is everyone so upset?

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Oh, Good Lord! This was in a Dr. Who ep - he wanted the useless female PM out and said he knows 6 words to do that - something along the lines of, "Doesn't the PM look fatigued?"

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darn it - it's gone - it was the crowd's reaction to the comment which was enlightening - they thought he was talking about Sarah.

Posted by anonymous2u 2008-09-10 19:55|| 2008-09-10 19:55|| Front Page Top

#65 I just watched the vid - it's still on YT - he's starting to slang/sing-song the end of his words.......

Michelle introducing him after he won the Senate election - this is my babies' daddy.

Posted by anonymous2u 2008-09-10 20:23|| 2008-09-10 20:23|| Front Page Top

#66 It's pretty obvious Obama and his Campaign people are trying to equate McCain with Bush. That's what they've been doing for quite some time, now, no matter who the front-running Republican was. By bringing up "the last 8 years" he was basically saying that McCain=Bush. It just won't play with Independants.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-09-10 20:32|| 2008-09-10 20:32|| Front Page Top

#67 PS: Even if he did mean the pig is McCain's policies that would make Palin the lipstick. Isn't that just as (or maybe more) insulting to Palin?

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-09-10 20:44|| 2008-09-10 20:44|| Front Page Top

#68 The most obvious conclusion I can draw is that Obama is a dolt. Only a dolt would be either mean enough to think he can throw that as an insult and get away with it, or stupied enouhg to say it without realizing the kind of asociation it would garner.

All in all, its a big "black mark" (punintended) against Obama's qualifications to be President - it show him either to be stupid or else lacking in judgement.

Can you imagine such a blunder while sitting opposite of Vladimir Putin, or Amahdi-nejad?

Obama just gave us further proof that he is not ready nor fit for the office, and that he would be a mistake of huge proportions as the President.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-09-10 21:03|| 2008-09-10 21:03|| Front Page Top

#69 Hello, I'm John McCain.

Welcome to the Old Fish and Swine tour.

She wears the lipstick.

I am secure enuf in my manhood that I picked a female as my VP............

Posted by anonymous2u 2008-09-10 21:17|| 2008-09-10 21:17|| Front Page Top

#70 lotp, your analysis is exactly right. I see the body language the same way. The whole thing was deliberate.

Posted by KBK 2008-09-10 22:48|| 2008-09-10 22:48|| Front Page Top

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