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2008-09-01 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by lotp 2008-09-01 13:14|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 This makes me like Palin even more. She knew, McCain knew. No coverup, no weasel words. Just a statement to say it is true and that they are dealing with it as any family might.

Good for them.

Posted by Betty Grating2215 2008-09-01 13:24|| 2008-09-01 13:24|| Front Page Top

#2 And the libs look sleazy.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-01 13:44|| 2008-09-01 13:44|| Front Page Top

#3 Boy do they.

I'm struck by the close relationship between daughter and parents. She obviously trusts them to support, respect and advise her. Deep in their hearts I suspect a bunch of parents and offspring both are wishing they had the same.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-01 13:45|| 2008-09-01 13:45|| Front Page Top

#4
KLo nails it: That the candidate in the family doesn't view her daughter having her baby as a punishment makes all the difference.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-01 13:58|| 2008-09-01 13:58|| Front Page Top

#5 The 60 Minutes interview is going to be very interesting and heavily viewed. Any dates being tossed about?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-01 14:03|| 2008-09-01 14:03|| Front Page Top

#6 That is the final torpedo in the "cover up" of Thig. She isn't embarrassed and trying to hide this pregnancy. Why the hell would she try to cover up a previous one? Oh there will still be those on the left that claim her daughter is a slut and the other baby was hers too (even though it is a physical impossibility to get pregnant while being pregnant but their deranged logic will try to fill the plot holes).
Good on McCain and Palin for being honest and open about a soon to be difficult time for the young pair. I hope they have the strength to see it though. Although, if the daughter is anything like her mother, she will make it and be stronger for it since raising a child, especially young is incredibly hard.
Any lefty I meet blabbing about how the previous pregnancy was a cover up is gonna get his ass kicked for being an ass.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-09-01 14:17|| 2008-09-01 14:17|| Front Page Top

#7 Hey, a shotgun wedding! That always works out well! What are the odds that Bristol had any say in this, now that mom is up for a serius promotion? And they say only lefties are sleazy.

Posted by Lonzo 2008-09-01 14:26|| 2008-09-01 14:26|| Front Page Top

#8
The campaign has also released the shocking admission that Todd Palin was arrested once on DUI when he was 22. That was in 1986. We've also learned that Sarah Palin got written up for not transferring a fishing license into her name when she took over operations midway through the fishing season. Pretty soon they'll be admitting that someone in the family has poor fashion sense or some equally serious charge that is certain to peel evangelical support away from this ticket. And then we'll know for sure that McCain is laughing at the leftist idiots who are pushing this crap.

Not easy on the kid but she'll manage given the family's strong and unequivocal support I think.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-01 14:23|| 2008-09-01 14:23|| Front Page Top

#9 There really is no avoiding the comparison:

GOP (Palin): Baby to be loved.

Dems (Obama): Baby is a punishment.

Love versus Punishment.

How much more clear can the difference be?

Posted by OldSpook 2008-09-01 14:27|| 2008-09-01 14:27|| Front Page Top

#10 And then we'll know for sure that McCain is laughing at the leftist idiots who are pushing this crap. Idiots like Lonzo right here in this thread. Who BTW is not posting from a US server.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-01 14:27|| 2008-09-01 14:27|| Front Page Top

#11 so, Lonzo is today's Pliny? We used to have a much better class of trolls. Ima thinkrn we aren't trying hard enough

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-09-01 14:45|| 2008-09-01 14:45|| Front Page Top

#12 Here's a curious quote which seems germane:

"Every man that is a Democrat is a Democrat because he hates something; every man that is a Republican is a Republican because he loves something."

It has a very curious history and context, but still fascinating.

Posted by Halliburton - Asymmetrical Reply Division 2008-09-01 14:54|| 2008-09-01 14:54|| Front Page Top

#13 Oh come on, you're breaking my heart.

But besides that, how is this supposed to help garner the Hillary moms? This just makes her look even more like a rightwing crazy. What McCain has fixed, Palin broke again!

Posted by Lonzo 2008-09-01 15:03|| 2008-09-01 15:03|| Front Page Top

#14 Lonzo, go here for the contemperaneous story about the birth of the Governor's fifth child.

Oh, sorry ...

contemperaneous means "at the time of the event".

Posted by Bobby 2008-09-01 15:07|| 2008-09-01 15:07|| Front Page Top

#15 I think McCain just got inside Bambi's OODA loop. Again. I hate to bet all conspiratorial, but that's the kind of folks who run campaigns.

It's seeming like the donks don't have any oppo research on the improbable Ms Palin and they're junping at whatever floats by. And paying the price.

Right now, Bambi has to be thinking, "I'm the guy from Chicago. How's this guy doing this to me? And who picked up this story and pushed it so hard? And where did they get it? Those photos with the obviously photoshopped dates? What's happnin? Who are these guys, anyway?"

Somebody should tell him lots of the mob retires to Phoenix.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-01 15:10|| 2008-09-01 15:10|| Front Page Top

#16 This just makes her look even more like a rightwing crazy.

How?

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2008-09-01 15:10|| 2008-09-01 15:10|| Front Page Top

#17 Hey Lonzo, be thankful that you're no where near here or I'd be forced to beat the ever-loving crap out of you. I know what this is all about from first and experience and you snide and snotty comments would get their just desserts.

Asshole.

Posted by AlanC 2008-09-01 15:12|| 2008-09-01 15:12|| Front Page Top

#18 Lonzo!

because you can't spell "no class" without "ass"

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-09-01 15:13|| 2008-09-01 15:13|| Front Page Top

#19 How?

Forcing a marriage just to satisfy a certain segment of the population.

Posted by Lonzo 2008-09-01 15:22|| 2008-09-01 15:22|| Front Page Top

#20 No, taking responsibility for your actions. A new concept to you, I'm sure. Now clean up or your Supervisor will be paying you a visit. With payroll implications.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-01 15:24|| 2008-09-01 15:24|| Front Page Top

#21 Forcing a marriage just to satisfy a certain segment of the population.

Be honest, now Lonzo. That's what you would do: marry just to satisfy a certain segment of the population...

or do you stay single just to satsfy a certain segment of the population...

Be honest.

We can tell iffin you're lying.

Posted by badanov 2008-09-01 15:24|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2008-09-01 15:24|| Front Page Top

#22 At 17??? I'd stay single for the time being. But that wouldn't fly in some circles, unfortunately.

Posted by Lonzo 2008-09-01 15:34|| 2008-09-01 15:34|| Front Page Top

#23 I find the business about the fish license disturbing. That's syrs bidness, right thar Lonely?

Posted by .5MT 2008-09-01 15:34|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-09-01 15:34|| Front Page Top

#24 Lonley you would stay single indeed. That's a given, perhaps for reasons uncomprehinded.

Posted by .5MT 2008-09-01 15:35|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-09-01 15:35|| Front Page Top

#25 Forcing a marriage just to satisfy a certain segment of the population.

Yes it would be better for everyone if Gov. Palin had dragged her daughter to an abortion clininc and forcibly prevented her from being punished with a baby. Double bonus if they had: killed the baby, emotionally crippled the daughter, and ruined the father's life by having him branded a sex offender. That's the Democratic way!

/sarcasm

Posted by AzCat 2008-09-01 15:43|| 2008-09-01 15:43|| Front Page Top

#26 Yes it would be better for everyone

No, it would be better for the (much too young) parents if they didn't get MARRIED now. Talk about emotionally ruining a kid.

But...as long as YOU're happy, that's all that matters.

Sex offender??? You mean he's much older than she is? Well that can't be good.

Posted by Lonzo 2008-09-01 15:52|| 2008-09-01 15:52|| Front Page Top

#27 It says something about Lonzo's lack of intimate familiarity with attractive teenaged women that he thinks one would never independently choose to keep her child and marry her boyfriend - whom, given the population in Alaska, she probably has known for years and whose family she is quite comfortable with.

It's a bit embarassing to learn this much about Lonzo's social life. TMI Lonzo.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-01 15:55|| 2008-09-01 15:55|| Front Page Top

#28 Being a single mother would somehow be better for a teenager than being a mother married to a supportive husband?

Wow, just wow.

Posted by AzCat 2008-09-01 15:56|| 2008-09-01 15:56|| Front Page Top

#29 a mother married to a supportive husband

Just as long as you don't take the X-box away, or whatever the kids are playing these days.

Personally, I'd focus on school at that age rather than starting a family. It's clear that the grandparents are very supportive, so they can certainly look after the grandchild while both parents make something of themselves. It certainly can't hurt.
But wait...you gotta keep up appearances, and make sure voters are happy. That above everything.

Lonzo stop being a repetitive ass or go find another sandbox to play in. -- The Mods

Posted by Lonzo 2008-09-01 16:03|| 2008-09-01 16:03|| Front Page Top

#30 Time magazine has an article up today about Bristol's pregnancy which apparently was known to most people in the town.

People in Wasilla are Alaskan tough, so not only does a thing like teen pregnancy not seem like anyone's damn business, but it's also not seen as the calamity so many people in the lower 48 might think it is. This is dangerous country it's not just the roughneck jobs on cable reality shows. It's real life here. I listened to the absolutely heartbreaking story of how the godfather of Track Palin, Sarah's oldest son, died in small plane crash just minutes after having dropped off four kids. Another family invited me into their home and told their incredible story; with one son in Iraq, their other son was working on a conveyor line in Anchorage, got caught in the belt and had his head partially crushed. He lived to stand across the kitchen table from me and his parents, looking fully healed just three months later, grinning at his dumb luck and wondering what comes next in life. "It makes you realize that a thing like a little teenage pregnancy isn't such a big deal," his mom said. "Bristoland lots of other girl like her out there are going to be just fine."

As for the idea sure to be floatedthat the avowedly anti-abortion Palin may have pressured her poor daughter to ruin her life by carrying an unwanted baby to term, I wouldn't bet on it. The Palin family seems to share the same pro-life values going back at least as far back as anyone here can remember, and it wouldn't be at all surprising if Bristol wore those values, however imperfectly, as her own. At least, that's what the town thinks. And Wasilla, above all, is pretty sensible.

Posted by lotp 2008-09-01 16:04|| 2008-09-01 16:04|| Front Page Top

#31 > Being a single mother would somehow be better ... than being a mother married to a supportive husband?

It will if the democrats win.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-09-01 16:05|| 2008-09-01 16:05|| Front Page Top

#32 Time editors will surely lose their Obama the Messiah decoder rings for that article.

Posted by badanov 2008-09-01 16:06|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2008-09-01 16:06|| Front Page Top

#33 But wait...you gotta keep up appearances, and make sure voters are happy. That above everything.

For phuechs sake what a statement. Cowardly piece of kak that you are, a statement I doubt you'd make to prospective grandfather Todd Palin face to face. 'Man up' retract and apologize!

Posted by Besoeker 2008-09-01 16:09|| 2008-09-01 16:09|| Front Page Top

#34 Perhaps Lonzo should consider how the Palins handled this announcement to how John Edwards handled the announcement of his new bundle of joy ...

Posted by Steve White 2008-09-01 16:19|| 2008-09-01 16:19|| Front Page Top

#35 Lemme see, how old was BHO's mum, when she had him?
How old were the rest of his fathers wives?

Posted by tipper 2008-09-01 16:20|| 2008-09-01 16:20|| Front Page Top

#36 This is going to be interesting, mother and daughter will be having a child 2 - 3 months apart.

Posted by tipper 2008-09-01 16:23|| 2008-09-01 16:23|| Front Page Top

#37 Perhaps Lonzo should consider how the Palins handled this announcement to how John Edwards handled the announcement of his new bundle of joy

John Edwards isn't on the ticket

Posted by Lonzo 2008-09-01 16:27|| 2008-09-01 16:27|| Front Page Top

#38 Alaska is tough frontier country. Kids grow up quicker. People may think 17 is young but I bet Bristol is a lot more mature than the average lower state 17.

Posted by Skunky Glins 5***">Skunky Glins 5*** 2008-09-01 16:29|| 2008-09-01 16:29|| Front Page Top

#39 Perhaps Palin should fess up:

I admit to being completely responsible for my role in this matter

Posted by badanov 2008-09-01 16:33|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2008-09-01 16:33|| Front Page Top

#40 Heck in those small town there aint much to do....JK Liked her before and still like the pick. She is keeping the baby, marrying the father, and I think that is exactly what usually happens.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2008-09-01 16:33|| 2008-09-01 16:33|| Front Page Top

#41 Mario, Hit'em with a chorus of Sweet Mystery of Life and exit stage right.

Posted by Your supervisor 2008-09-01 16:40|| 2008-09-01 16:40|| Front Page Top

#42 Lemme see, how old was BHO's mum, when she had him? How old were the rest of his fathers wives?

Don't they start at about 8 in that religion? Or is it 6? I can never remember.

Posted by AzCat 2008-09-01 17:01|| 2008-09-01 17:01|| Front Page Top

#43 LOL, Supervisor scares me.

Posted by .5MT 2008-09-01 17:07|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-09-01 17:07|| Front Page Top

#44 Lonzo - although being Democrat isn't yet in the DSM-IV, I have high hopes for the DSM-V.
Wikipedia on the DSM-IV - This should help Lonzo.

Posted by Bob Angains3148 2008-09-01 17:45|| 2008-09-01 17:45|| Front Page Top

#45

Posted by badanov 2008-09-01 19:17|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2008-09-01 19:17|| Front Page Top

#46 In my view, the real question is how Obama's support among younger voters will fare in the face of attacks on a 17-year-old mounted by his minions. I suspect a lot of younger people are OK with teen pregnancy, but not OK with vitriolic attacks on pregnant teens.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2008-09-01 19:23|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2008-09-01 19:23|| Front Page Top

#47 Over a holiday weekend, under the radar. McCain will play nice. No one but wonks like us will know.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-01 19:26|| 2008-09-01 19:26|| Front Page Top

#48 Lonzo, if Stanley Ann Dunham had followed the advice you are offering, then you wouldn't have THE ONE to worship.

Posted by GK 2008-09-01 22:20|| 2008-09-01 22:20|| Front Page Top

#49 Over a holiday weekend, under the radar. McCain will play nice. No one but wonks like us will know.

Miss Bristol's generation are on Facebook 24/7. The story, and the uproar about it, are probably making the rounds faster there than here. According to the statistics, quite enough of them are sexually active, or have friends who are, and who don't think much of hypercritically hypocritical adults.

Not to mention that Candidate Obama is the bastard offspring of a drunken one-night stand that, given the tender age of the future mother, could well have landed the father in jail... or stuck in Hawaii actually working for a living for the rest of his life. A pity, that: clearly Mr. Obama II would have been a much more balanced man had he known his birth father well enough to despise him.

Lonzo dear, I'm not sure what your objective is, but how can you fail to see that you aren't at all successful?

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-09-01 22:52|| 2008-09-01 22:52|| Front Page Top

#50 Beldar has, I think, the most important comment I've yet seen on this topic. It would appear that the impressive members of this family don't end with the parents.

Posted by AzCat 2008-09-01 23:36|| 2008-09-01 23:36|| Front Page Top

#51 First; Bad, that pic you posted is a hammerblow right to the solar plexus. No one who has ever loved a baby would look at that without wanting to punch Obama's lights out.

Second, I grew up in a small town. Probably as many girls went to the altar with a bun in the oven as not. So what? It's been a long time since I was a kid and the vast majority of those folks are still married and have raised good families. It's not the optimum but handled with responsibility, good sense and hard work it's a pretty minor problem. Ten years from now no one will remember. Or, if they do, it will be with some understated humor. As my neighbor used to say, it's a funny thing about babies. The first one can come anytime. All the rest take nine months.

Third, Beldar's comment is a real game-changer, AzCat. I liked the Palins before; I like them a lot more now. One thing is certain; they're tough people and they've already paid a heavy price just for the chance to serve their country.

The left in this country is simply despicable.

Posted by Jolutch Mussolini7800 2008-09-01 23:53|| 2008-09-01 23:53|| Front Page Top

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