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2007-11-21 Iraq

Iraq uncovers mass grave from 1991 Shia revolt

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Posted by Steve White 2007-11-21 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1746 views ] Top

1 Yeah, I'll never forgive Bush, Sr. for letting those people swing in the wind.

Posted by gromky 2007-11-21 04:26|| 2007-11-21 04:26|| Front Page Top

2 "This aggression will not stand."

Thanks to George Herbert Walker Bush it did stand and untold thousands more died horrible deaths. Pile the skulls on Tanglewood's doorstep.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-21 06:28|| 2007-11-21 06:28|| Front Page Top

3 CNN -
Nothing to see here ... Move along.

Posted by doc 2007-11-21 06:45|| 2007-11-21 06:45|| Front Page Top

4 Now Dems -tell us again how the Iraqis were better off under Saddam Hussein.

Posted by WTF 2007-11-21 08:17|| 2007-11-21 08:17|| Front Page Top

5 WTF - I believe the Donk reply would be -

Why should we support democracy in Iraq when we really don't support democracy in America?

Just ask the people in Washington state, St.Louis, Chicago.... It's all about staging the appearance of free and open elections while making sure only the ~~right~~ correct people get the power. That's why they were better off under Saddam. They didn't have all those tiresome public shows that consume time and emotions just to have those who should be in charge wasting their valuable personal time engaged in something as plebeian as 'the consent of the governed'.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-11-21 09:10|| 2007-11-21 09:10|| Front Page Top

6 Has anybody (Zenster?) read enough history, or is there even enough available, to determine whether it was Bush Sr. or Colin Powell who was responsible for this?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-11-21 09:44|| 2007-11-21 09:44|| Front Page Top

7 From what I've heard, it was both.

Powell definitely did not want to press on to Baghdad.

Bush Sr. had heavy pressure from the Saudis not to go farther, as well.

But that is annecdote and so far as I can tell the details are shrouded in deliberate mist.

Posted by lotp 2007-11-21 10:08|| 2007-11-21 10:08|| Front Page Top

8 NS - as Harry Truman stipulated, "The buck stops here." It's the Prez that gets the dishonor.

Note well, however, it is all the pin-stripe policy wags in the beltway and in the lofty academic world who keep hoping* that people will be able to 'liberate' themselves with out having someone else get blood on their hands. From my observations, first and even second generation dictatorial/authoritarian regimes don't fall without outside intervention. As long as the regimes can have a cadre of 'true believers' to carry out their their orders, they're unlikely to be tumbled. It takes a generation or two before the rot sets in to allow internal pressures to start to compromise the stability of the 'leader' and his entourage.

*Hope is not a strategy.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-11-21 10:15|| 2007-11-21 10:15|| Front Page Top

9 Has anybody (Zenster?) read enough history, or is there even enough available, to determine whether it was Bush Sr. or Colin Powell who was responsible for this?

As Commander in Chief, Colin Powell was Bush's subordinate and this happened on Bush's Sr.'s watch. If Bush succumbed to Saudi pressurefrom all appearances a genetic predisposition in their familythen he allowed American foreign policy to be steered by our enemies. Something thatas previous head of the CIABush damn well knew or should have.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-11-21 12:06|| 2007-11-21 12:06|| Front Page Top

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