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2007-07-10 India-Pakistan

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Posted by liberalhawk 2007-07-10 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 Can the Red Turbans = Red-Star Turban movement survive iff 1000 supporters leave??? You know, 1000 +/- of minima 10,000 and more??? News at 11.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-07-10 00:47|| 2007-07-10 00:47|| Front Page Top

#2 Too bad this is just a token demonstration upon Musharraf's part. If he was serious, there'd be one-a-day of these cleanups. More than likely, this is paybacks for the people who tried to shoot down his plane and has nothing to do with truly dismantling the Taliban.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-10 01:31|| 2007-07-10 01:31|| Front Page Top

#3 Whether Perv's actions are derived from self interest is irrelevant. The fact that the extreme Muzzies keep trying to off him tells me he is doing something right.

Posted by Kofi Throluth2328 2007-07-10 03:27|| 2007-07-10 03:27|| Front Page Top

#4 No Musharraf, no military action. He's the best of a bad situation.

Posted by gromky 2007-07-10 06:02|| 2007-07-10 06:02|| Front Page Top

#5 "resistance from militants in the basement"

Natural gas is heavier than air and if there should happen to be a leak (caused) in the supply line to the stove the gas would accumulate in the lowest places, where a stray spark from an AK-47 being fired would likely set it off in a really pretty fireball.
(hint, hint)

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-07-10 07:11|| 2007-07-10 07:11|| Front Page Top

#6 I was thinking for the Iwo Jima approach. Just bulldoze and seal the basement up.

Posted by Gary and the Samoyeds">Gary and the Samoyeds 2007-07-10 08:45|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2007-07-10 08:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Can the Pakistanis do a better job than the Russians? Or will we soon be seeing Beslan-style images? Using children - even Islamist children - as hostages or human shields is an abomination.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-07-10 08:45|| 2007-07-10 08:45|| Front Page Top

#8 Well Glenmore they are muzzies afterall. I'd expect the worst.

Posted by jds 2007-07-10 09:18|| 2007-07-10 09:18|| Front Page Top

#9 I would be all for pouring burning napalm down in the basement.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-07-10 09:27|| 2007-07-10 09:27|| Front Page Top

#10 Natural gas is lighter than air. Propane is heavier.

Posted by John J. Simmins">John J. Simmins 2007-07-10 09:34|| 2007-07-10 09:34|| Front Page Top

#11 Whatever! At least Perv has more balls than Rummy, if you believe the NYTs [which I don't want to do here]. Sooner or later [and I hope it is sooner] will have to do the black op on NWF and screw diplomacy and Paki outrage. If Perv can take out a musk then why can't we summon up the pol/mil courage to go for the queen bee?

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-07-10 10:00|| 2007-07-10 10:00|| Front Page Top

#12 Rummy's not in charge any more, who is NWF, and what do you refer to as the queen bee ?
Other than that, I got every word.

Posted by wxjames 2007-07-10 10:56|| 2007-07-10 10:56|| Front Page Top

#13 NWF = North-West Frontier Province, where the rustics live.

Posted by anonymous5089 2007-07-10 11:03|| 2007-07-10 11:03|| Front Page Top

#14 Perv had multiple reasons to do this.

A. he doesnt like these guys, cause theyve tried to kill him.

B. The Red mosque was right in the heart of the capital. This was profoundly embarrassing to Perv, and made it look like he wasnt doing anything against the Taliban. He needed to assuage the West

C. It was also embarrassing in front of his own people. At a time when the secular opposition is acting up, he cant afford to look weak, and ineffective. This is aimed to shore up his domestic position

D. The Red Mosque guys were going after Chinese. China wasnt pleased. Pakistan cannot afford to piss of the West and the Chinese at the same time, given that the relationship to India is none too great.

Now having done, this, what does he do in NWFP? The cost of winning in NWFP is much higher, and the payoff somewhat less. OTOH the tribes may start acting up even Perv does nothing up there. Id give it 50-50 whether he starts in on the NWFP again. Even if he does, expect the Paki army to meet with mixed success at best.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2007-07-10 11:16|| 2007-07-10 11:16|| Front Page Top

#15 wxjames: Speakie code - NWF is where you Binny and the Doc live - sort of like our old "hole in the wall". Binny is the Queen Bee and controls the coming and goings of his worker bees. No Rummy isn't in charge anymore (thank God). But anyone more concerned about world reaction and casualties will never win any war much less something as difficult as this one.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-07-10 11:39|| 2007-07-10 11:39|| Front Page Top

#16 Based on the number of people in the mosque, the size of the Pak force and the types of weapons and tactics on both size, the number killed will probably easily exceed 100 and may go over 250.

The islamists are already sending out the message that Mush is really an infidel and its everyone's duty to kill him. Most of the population dislikes the islamists but are easily intimidated.

If Musharraf is smart, he is already preparing a move against another islamist target in the vicinity of the capital.

Posted by mhw 2007-07-10 13:19|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/] 2007-07-10 13:19|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm trying to remember if that is the "red mosque" I was in at 1989. Think there is another in Lahore. If it was, that place is a fortress but apparently not as good as Abdul Rashid Ghazi would have liked because, news flash, the bastard is dead!

Posted by Icerigger 2007-07-10 13:39|| 2007-07-10 13:39|| Front Page Top

#18 The assault on the Red Mosque ~~begins~~ ends.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-10 13:45|| 2007-07-10 13:45|| Front Page Top

#19 The general uprising of the Pakistani admirers & worshippers of Osama bin Laden will soon follow.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-07-10 14:20|| 2007-07-10 14:20|| Front Page Top

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